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Does not have to do with the cauldron, but what are those three rings between the spotlights on the roof?

Gotta give the organizing team credit, we're getting close to zero hour and none of us really have a solid clue.

Looking at the photo..... why would you need stairs going down to beneath the bridge (near the colorful sidewalk)? Could this be a possible hint about the location?

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What exactly has been the point of the last 160 pages, then? When did we cross the line into throwing away anything, potentially legitamate, anyone brings up in this thread simply because "it won't ma

The longer I see it "in action", I think that the idea behind the cauldron lighting and the design was extremely clever - but Heatherwick and Company completely failed in realising that the cauldron w

I don't quite understand your reasoning that the 2012 location is showing more people worldwide the cauldron that had it been located elsewhere (ie roofline of stadium etc). The cauldron is always a f

Looking at the photo..... why would you need stairs going down to beneath the bridge (near the colorful sidewalk)? Could this be a possible hint about the location?

I think it's just to access the sidewalk along the waterway, to enjoy a stroll along the riverbank as opposed to higher up at street level.

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hey kids! i'm kind of new here, i've been reading you since 2004, i was a member then but i forgot my password and name ha!, i was a torchbearer back then, im from mexico by the way...

back to the topic... i was thinking about the posibility of the rings becoming the cauldron in their final position, maybe something "a la Athens" but high in the sky haha.. well on the center of the stadium??.. i would love that!... and the other day my dad told me that he saw a report from london about a mexican girl being part of the opening ceremony and he said something about the fire running on the walls of the stadium or something like that, i don't know what he saw but he was very convinced hahaha... do you know something about this??.. (sorry for my english).. i'm sooo excited about this olympics!!!! can't wait!!.. thanks for the pics, the info and everything!!!

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hey kids! i'm kind of new here, i've been reading you since 2004, i was a member then but i forgot my password and name ha!, i was a torchbearer back then, im from mexico by the way...

back to the topic... i was thinking about the posibility of the rings becoming the cauldron in their final position, maybe something "a la Athens" but high in the sky haha.. well on the center of the stadium??.. i would love that!... and the other day my dad told me that he saw a report from london about a mexican girl being part of the opening ceremony and he said something about the fire running on the walls of the stadium or something like that, i don't know what he saw but he was very convinced hahaha... do you know something about this??.. (sorry for my english).. i'm sooo excited about this olympics!!!! can't wait!!.. thanks for the pics, the info and everything!!!

Bienvenido, Galileo!!

#1 - Your English is fine!! Most of us are used to an int'l forum so we give allowances to non-English speakers. Don't worry about it!

#2 - With 2 areas now lighted on the roof, I think the cauldron may appear between those 2 triangular pylons. It's fairly close enough to the northern location of the gas lines & far away enuf from the Orbit so that damn useless tower doesn't detract from it. I can't imagine how that stupid tower upset all of the original Ceremonial plans. Or why didn't they just cooperate to have ONE suitable tower??

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i was thinking about the posibility of the rings becoming the cauldron in their final position, maybe something "a la Athens" but high in the sky haha.. well on the center of the stadium??.. i would love that!... and the other day my dad told me that he saw a report from london about a mexican girl being part of the opening ceremony and he said something about the fire running on the walls of the stadium or something like that, i don't know what he saw but he was very convinced

Welcome Galileo27 :) I'm not sure if you know that the London 2012 Cauldron designer is contemporary sculptor Thomas Heatherwick. Forming the Olympic rings in flames is not really a sculpture that he can claim design credit for. It's highly likely that he will have designed a unique London Cauldron, one that has never been seen before. Besides Athens with the rings onthe water (not the Cauldron) Los Angeles 1984 also had the fiery Olympic rings as the flame travelled up to their Cauldron.

Fire running down the walls of the Stadium sounds very unsafe for the spectators inside but yes, we can expect something spectacular from Heatherwick.

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Well, that platform above the Tree & Tor does look BIG enough to support a medium-sized cauldron. Is that where it might be?

So will the lighter climb up to the tree branches. it rises; there's a little wick connected to the cauldron, and Daley/Redgrave lights the short wick?

(But I still don't see the significance of a tree being uprooted from this fake Glastonbury Tor and rising a few feet into the air? Why?)

C'mon Ceremonies performers & volunteers --- look harder!! U ain't looking hard enough!! :lol:

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Well, that platform above the Tree & Tor does look BIG enough to support a medium-sized cauldron. Is that where it might be?

So will the lighter climb up to the tree branches. it rises; there's a little wick connected to the cauldron, and Daley/Redgrave lights the short wick?

(But I still don't see the significance of a tree being uprooted from this fake Glastonbury Tor and rising a few feet into the air? Why?)

C'mon Ceremonies performers & volunteers --- look harder!! U ain't looking hard enough!! :lol:

I totally agree that the cauldron will be somewhere around that area, but why can we not see any gas lines going up to that spot? Beijing's stadium could conceal the gas line within its structure, but here there is not to hide it.......

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So will the lighter climb up to the tree branches. it rises; there's a little wick connected to the cauldron, and Daley/Redgrave lights the short wick?

God no, please not another wick/ pulley method eg Atlanta & Beijing. They are the laziest and most unimaginable method ever.

I still believe the Tor will play a role in the lighting ceremony though it doesn't look that easy to climb up! Was thinking he ignites something that releases real 'fire'flies our from the tree and they fly into the cauldron somewhere on the roof

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I totally agree that the cauldron will be somewhere around that area, but why can we not see any gas lines going up to that spot? Beijing's stadium could conceal the gas line within its structure, but here there is not to hide it.......

The gas lines would of course be concealed, running somewhere in the back. They would NOT be visible. So what, some vandal can cut it when he sees it? They are well concealed.

God no, please not another wick/ pulley method eg Atlanta & Beijing. They are the laziest and most unimaginable method ever.

I still believe the Tor will play a role in the lighting ceremony though it doesn't look that easy to climb up! Was thinking he ignites something that releases real 'fire'flies our from the tree and they fly into the cauldron somewhere on the roof

Well how else do you expect the final lighter to light the damn thing from below?? Fireflies? Good idea but have you ever trained fireflies??

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What if the tree burst into flames and then reveals itself as the torch on its way up? lol

I do believe we'll have more hints in the upcoming days, maybe someone should look underneath that fake tor...

nonsense that is no good not goiong to happen....
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The London Cauldron lighting will be B I G !!

Don't forget the other critcal clue to the London 2012 Cauldron posted earlier is that this might be the first Summer Olympics Opening Ceremony where the permission of the Prime Minister had to be obtained in order for the Caudron lighting to proceed.

That sounds to me like a Cauldron ignition that is big, high and/or very unconventional to what we have seen in the past and perhaps aerial related, something that might infringe the airspace regulations laws or other nationally significant government laws.

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Mechanical fireflies, darling. It's Heatherwick.

How phony would that be? I don't think that would pass muster with the IOC. Plus, PETA would be all over you like a cheap suit, mechanical or not. :lol:

The London Cauldron lighting will be B I G

Don;t forget the other critcal clue to the London 2012 Cauldron is that this might be the first Summer Olympics Opening Ceremony where the permission of the Prime Minister had to be obtained in order for the Caudron lighting to proceed.

That sounds to me like an ignition that is highly unconvetional to what we have seen in the past with Cauldron lightings and and perhaps aerial related, something that might infringe the airspace above and around the Stadium (?)

That's just misinformed hyperbole by someone who doesn't know his elbow from his ass. If anything, it would be the London Fire Marshall's permission that would be needed; not the PM's. Since when was the PM's time taken up for something merely ceremonial...which his underlings or other departments can do. There's so much stuff going on on that roof that it's unbelievable if they can find a free 300 cubic square feet to accommodate a cauldron....which is why...I think... they're extending that ledge inwards to accommodate something shooting flames there.

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The London Cauldron lighting will be B I G !!

Don't forget the other critcal clue to the London 2012 Cauldron posted earlier is that this might be the first Summer Olympics Opening Ceremony where the permission of the Prime Minister had to be obtained in order for the Caudron lighting to proceed.

That sounds to me like a Cauldron ignition that is big, high and/or very unconventional to what we have seen in the past and perhaps aerial related, something that might infringe the airspace regulations laws or other nationally significant government laws.

If anything, it would be the London Fire Marshall's permission that would be needed; not the PM's. Since when was the PM's time taken up for something merely ceremonial...which his underlings or other departments can do.

Like you, I also don't know if that earlier report was true about the PM's approval.

But if it did have some truth in it, and if Prime Minister Cameron has indeed been involved in giving high level government approval for London's Cauldron lighting method, then it is highly likely that national laws / landmarks / heritage sites (?) will be infringed, not just local fire marshall jurisdiction.

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I still think there's been some muddling here. I think the PM's approval was given for the whole ceremony when Boyle and his team asked for a substantial budget increase. I don't think Cameron specifically gave permission for the cauldron placement.

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Like you, I also don't know if that earlier report was true about the PM's approval.

But if it did have some truth in it, and if Prime Minister Cameron has indeed been involved in giving high level government approval for London's Cauldron lighting method, then it is highly likely that national laws / landmarks / heritage sites (?) will be infringed, not just local fire marshall jurisdiction.

But a national landmark is landmark; I mean even a PM can't change it. So if you think a landmark is involved, then maybe we're back to thinking Big Ben or Tower Bridge? But I doubt that a PM can change the rules for lighting those.

I still think there's been some muddling here. I think the PM's approval was given for the whole ceremony when Boyle and his team asked for a substantial budget increase. I don't think Cameron specifically gave permission for the cauldron placement.

Yeah, I think it was that. And which is how, supposedly, they got double the budget.

Was just thinking...why is Boyle leaving out the John Profumo-Christene Keeler chapter from the show? That's one of my favorite chapters of British history!! :lol:

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Hi all

Been reading this forum for years but only just joined - so be kind

Loving all the speculation as to the cauldron, I know it is never gonna happen but the top of The Shard always features in my fantasy location. I know it is never gonna happen but it could be seen for miles around!

Can't wait for 27 July.

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hi, been reading this thread with great interest for a while, and it seems to me as it may seem to many others that regarding the PM's permission etc, (btw, i believe a cauldron of any sort whatsoever would require fire marshall approval) that there is a distinct possibility ( and i really hope so) that the cauldron could be a ring of fire around the roof of the stadium, this is supported by those 2 segments of the roof lit up, in one of the latest photos, this could act as a form of countdown cock to the lighting.

Of course i could also be completely and utterly wrong

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God no, please not another wick/ pulley method eg Atlanta & Beijing. They are the laziest and most unimaginable method ever.

I agree -- Atlanta's being far worse than Beijing's. Since it followed on the heels of Barcelona's magnificently conceived cauldron lighting it looked especially pitiful in comparison....

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Ok so I have been reading the post and trawling through a lot of photos and posts and I think that I might have the answer :)

Anyone else noted that those circular objects on the roof actually move as in float into the stadium. Maybe I am wrong and I live inToulouse so can't actually see the stadium in real life, but if what I think is what will happen, would be so cool.

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there is a distinct possibility ( and i really hope so) that the cauldron could be a ring of fire around the roof of the stadium, this is supported by those 2 segments of the roof lit up, in one of the latest photos, this could act as a form of countdown cock to the lighting.

Of course i could also be completely and utterly wrong

What would Heatherwick have to do with a simple ring of fire?

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Sorry forgot to add, there are five of them and they are positioned in the olympics rings kind of fashion 3 on one side and 2 on the other :)

It's not one ring though it's 5 and if they are still in basic form who knows, wouldnt take long to bolt on other pieces.

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