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What exactly has been the point of the last 160 pages, then? When did we cross the line into throwing away anything, potentially legitamate, anyone brings up in this thread simply because "it won't ma

The longer I see it "in action", I think that the idea behind the cauldron lighting and the design was extremely clever - but Heatherwick and Company completely failed in realising that the cauldron w

I don't quite understand your reasoning that the 2012 location is showing more people worldwide the cauldron that had it been located elsewhere (ie roofline of stadium etc). The cauldron is always a f

oh no it's not - i know what that is and it ain't the cauldron!

Adrian, it was a j-o-k-e. Doncha get it?

Yes, I know that is supposed to be:

a. the Black Death

b. "Prospero" or at least per that Evening Standard Report); or

c. a giant, inflatable Adele, still under wraps. :lol::lol:

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SPOILERS!!

Guess what resides inside the black shroud???

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It's almost there for everyone to see!! :lol: :lol:

that can not be the cauldron its some kind of giant puppet. see the arms and white hands

it looks like it is holding a wand. IT'S HARRY POTTER!

OR VOLDEMORT

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A photo of one of the rings uploaded today on the OC thread.

Interesting is this ring has a substantial supporting structure and at least one or both ends appear to be anchored right across the curved outer edge of the stadium roof from this angle.

This may be so that it has minimal weight bearing on the inner part of the roof. Is it a link with the 4 other rings in an elaborate Cauldron lighting sequence or just a stunning Olympic moment in an earlier part of the OC ?.

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Here's the pink tanks at the pumping station that Foundation mentioned. info

I hope someone will discover some couldron secrets soon, I hope it's super cool like that b-bang thingy.

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There's a pretty good close up of the plate in question at the 3 minute 21 second of the clip at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18609415

No way is that footprint big enough.

The bridge design is coincidence. It's been there for years and years as pointed out above.

And is there a close-up aerial pic up of this "plate" area? I sound like a broken record in this thread by continuing to bring this up, but such a tall cauldron would require a sizable foundation to support it. Is there any evidence of a foundation in this "plate" area?

With pretty much a month to go until rehearsals... I'm getting ready to completely 100% throw out the possibility of a tall cauldron tower... There just ins't anymore time left to build one...

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There's a pretty good close up of the plate in question at the 3 minute 21 second of the clip at http://www.bbc.co.uk...london-18609415

No way is that footprint big enough.

And why would it be across the little stream? The known gas line for the possible location does NOT cross any of the brooks surrounding Oly Stadium.

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Oops apologies - I got my bearings all mixed up. My bad. Sorry all.

That is not the plate. The plate is on the other side of the river, where the bridge is

And why would it be across the little stream? The known gas line for the possible location does NOT cross any of the brooks from Oly Stadium.

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I have now seen the square that many of us are focused on! It's not big, maybe four metres by four metres, and there is absolutely nothing happening on it or around it at the moment. There's not a loop or a hook or a hole, and I was very nearby. Nor is there anything in the back of house area apart from props for the opening ceremony.

But I still feel confident that it's important.

By the way, the barges below are definitely power units.

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I've been following this thread for a year or so, and am as excited as most as to what will be revealed.

As a "Brit" have been concerned for 6 yrs (especialy considering the 'performance' in Beijing CS) I would need to hide away in an "embarrassed corner". :)

Do you know what .. I think we'll do great!

Love all the intrigue on the design, placement, lighting mech of the cauldron. I think "we" will do something amazing.

As a Brit, it would fit the ideal of the OC to come up with something new, and prove we're not a dusty old country, we still have stuff to offer !?!?

x @ all OG fans!

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I know this will sound ridiculous but i dreamt of the cauldron lighting last night :P

Basically, the torchbearer was flying towards a slanted jumbotron screen....... and somehow the jumbotron was showing an image of the cauldron. And when the torchbearer is approaching the jumbotron, the cauldron image on the screen slowly comes to life to become a 3D/ hologramish object hovering above the jumbotron. Then the torch bearer lit that cauldron which becomes real in the end..... must say it's a great dream and I'm super excited to the verge of crying haha! :)

Proof that i am reaching obsessive stage of this whole olympic thing!

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I spent a big part of today reading this forum, and it's quite comforting to see that no-one knows (which is how it should be).

Being in the "privileged" position of coming in at this late point, it would seem (to me) clear that the London2012 cauldron lighting will be either a) Embarrassingly poor or B) Amazing.

OK, not insightful thinking maybe, but I don't (and hope not) some middle-ground "seen-it-before" stuff. I really now think us UK'ers have a chance to actually look quite good, draw on our heritage, and be "spectacular" without having to spend TOO much.

This idea has been rubbished many times here, but I am still convinced the flame will be lit in the stadium and skylined to the "missing bit" of the MittalOrbit,

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I know this will sound ridiculous but i dreamt of the cauldron lighting last night :P

Basically, the torchbearer was flying towards a slanted jumbotron screen....... and somehow the jumbotron was showing an image of the cauldron. And when the torchbearer is approaching the jumbotron, the cauldron image on the screen slowly comes to life to become a 3D/ hologramish object hovering above the jumbotron. Then the torch bearer lit that cauldron which becomes real in the end..... must say it's a great dream and I'm super excited to the verge of crying haha! :)

Proof that i am reaching obsessive stage of this whole olympic thing!

You are not the only one... B) ....some weeks ago i dreamt with the OC.... thousands of shining butterflies flying and making the 5 rings.... :ph34r:

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Another long time lurker here.

I have been dipping in and out so I hope I'm not treading over old ground.

Could the official game provide an indication of where the cauldron would be? It seems very clear from the introduction to the game.

From past experience (and past games !) there is no clue... they use an old design of cauldron and put it where they can...

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I spent a big part of today reading this forum, and it's quite comforting to see that no-one knows (which is how it should be).

Being in the "privileged" position of coming in at this late point, it would seem (to me) clear that the London2012 cauldron lighting will be either a) Embarrassingly poor or B) Amazing.

OK, not insightful thinking maybe, but I don't (and hope not) some middle-ground "seen-it-before" stuff. I really now think us UK'ers have a chance to actually look quite good, draw on our heritage, and be "spectacular" without having to spend TOO much.

This idea has been rubbished many times here, but I am still convinced the flame will be lit in the stadium and skylined to the "missing bit" of the MittalOrbit,

I also still like the idea of it being at the top of the Orbit - to me the Orbit would really make sense as part of the Olympic Park if that were the case and it would secure its legacy moving forward. But Heatherwick designing the cauldron makes me think it sadly won't happen - I don't think they would stick his cauldron on top of the Orbit.

I think it would be a really nice way to light the flame as well, take it around the stadium - then back out again with all the viewers wondering where its going, then see it cross over to the Orbit and run up the spiral staircase with it, fireworks coming out of the stairs as they go up, then light it from inside the viewing gallery.

One thing that hasn't really been touched on is what emotive thread they might use in the lighting of the cauldron, if any. In Barcelona it was lit by a paralympic competitior, in Atlanta Mohammed Ali. In Athens the emotion was in seeing the games coming home to Greece and in Beijing I suppose it was the significance of the moment of China's emergence and acceptance on the World stage. I personally really liked Sydney, all women carrying the torch into the stadium, passing it on to Cathy Freeman (of aboriginal decent) and standing in a line cheering her on as she rose the steps to light the cauldron.

Unfortunately I don't know where it is now, but I saw an interview with one of the producers of the ceremonies (probably in this thread somewhere) and she said she was confident London's would be the most emotional and best of them all. I'd quite like it to be lit by someone like Martine Wiltshire - was on a tube train on 7/7, reading the paper about the Olympics coming to London and was involved in one of the bombings. She lost both legs and has since trained hard and secured a place in Team GB at the Paralympics. It's a very inspirational story.

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I also still like the idea of it being at the top of the Orbit - to me the Orbit would really make sense as part of the Olympic Park if that were the case and it would secure its legacy moving forward. But Heatherwick designing the cauldron makes me think it sadly won't happen - I don't think they would stick his cauldron on top of the Orbit.

I think it would be a really nice way to light the flame as well, take it around the stadium - then back out again with all the viewers wondering where its going, then see it cross over to the Orbit and run up the spiral staircase with it, fireworks coming out of the stairs as they go up, then light it from inside the viewing gallery.

One thing that hasn't really been touched on is what emotive thread they might use in the lighting of the cauldron, if any. In Barcelona it was lit by a paralympic competitior, in Atlanta Mohammed Ali. In Athens the emotion was in seeing the games coming home to Greece and in Beijing I suppose it was the significance of the moment of China's emergence and acceptance on the World stage. I personally really liked Sydney, all women carrying the torch into the stadium, passing it on to Cathy Freeman (of aboriginal decent) and standing in a line cheering her on as she rose the steps to light the cauldron.

Unfortunately I don't know where it is now, but I saw an interview with one of the producers of the ceremonies (probably in this thread somewhere) and she said she was confident London's would be the most emotional and best of them all. I'd quite like it to be lit by someone like Martine Wiltshire - was on a tube train on 7/7, reading the paper about the Olympics coming to London and was involved in one of the bombings. She lost both legs and has since trained hard and secured a place in Team GB at the Paralympics. It's a very inspirational story.

Ooooooo, like the Wiltshire angle a lot. If she is not involved in the final lap, she's got to be the favorite for the Paralympics torch lighting.

For me... Here is my thoughts on the final laps of the torch inside the stadium.

Assuming he is able, I know there is at least one British medalist left from the 48 Games. He would be my favorite to bring the torch in. If not, I would check to see of any relatives of Harold Abrahams and/or Eric Liddle to bring it in.

Next person in the relay should be Derek Redmond. Would be a nice touch to have him start his portion of the lap then after a short portion, have him stop and wave to the stands, bringing his father onto the track and jointly carry the torch, homage to the mo net 20 years ago in Barcelona.

From Redmond to Sir Roger Bannister for the next portion of the relay. Bannister brings it to Sir Steven Redgrave who will be the cauldron lighter.

Obvious room for improvement and for more torch lighters (Thing Beijing set the record with 8 inside the stadium), but we don't want to overdo this.

Just my thoughts.

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Maybe they could use the Olympic flame to burn down the Orbit? Sorry, that was a joke...I really don't like that thing. But I don't see the Orbit playing a role in the flame lighting at all.

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Maybe they could use the Olympic flame to burn down the Orbit? Sorry, that was a joke...I really don't like that thing. But I don't see the Orbit playing a role in the flame lighting at all.

Careful with jokes like that. I know you are kidding, but remember TowerGuy/YellowVest and what happended to him.

I'm not a fan of the Orbit either, but I take some comfort it will NOT be the site of the cauldron, just a monument to mayoral ego.

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I know you are kidding, but remember TowerGuy/YellowVest and what happended to him.

Off topic... but what did happen to him? Just kinda had a foot-in-mouth moment and never appeared on these forums again?

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Off topic... but what did happen to him? Just kinda had a foot-in-mouth moment and never appeared on these forums again?

Well, it is known that the RCMP did pay him a visit; and I believe internet access was taken away and/or he was heavily watched. Understandably; such a warped mind.

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^^ Sorry for living under a rock but I don't know what happened to him either (I just tought he was an obvious troll who dissapeared right after the olympics ended)

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