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Seems like whenever they try to do something spectacular with the river, it always ends up a damp squib. The millennium fire and also the diamond jubilee river pageant. It's those things they wished people will not remember.

I had no idea Thames was that difficult to tame but I highly doubt they won't be planning a Melbourne 2006 style lights and fireworks display from the river. It's too much to resist when you have a meandering water course crossing your very downtown and featuring so prominently as a symbol of the city from its bid logo to one of the opening ceremony stages.

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What exactly has been the point of the last 160 pages, then? When did we cross the line into throwing away anything, potentially legitamate, anyone brings up in this thread simply because "it won't ma

The longer I see it "in action", I think that the idea behind the cauldron lighting and the design was extremely clever - but Heatherwick and Company completely failed in realising that the cauldron w

I don't quite understand your reasoning that the 2012 location is showing more people worldwide the cauldron that had it been located elsewhere (ie roofline of stadium etc). The cauldron is always a f

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Now I count 5 rings....not 4...

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This view confirm me there is absolutely no work underway in the plaza at the north of the stadium...

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Even under the "famous" pod...

Where could they possibly have the cauldron?? No signs of activity outside the stadium at all. The river barge is still there though...

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This view confirm me there is absolutely no work underway in the plaza at the north of the stadium...

olympic-stadium_2248127k.jpg

Even under the "famous" pod...

Not at the moment, but nor is there any other location where cauldron work appears to be happening.

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Where could they possibly have the cauldron?? No signs of activity outside the stadium at all. The river barge is still there though...

Good pic, thanks Swisso.

Yes Kevvz, that river barge is still there, and well, what's it's purpose with those objects still neatly arranged on it? Are they catering freezers or chillers or ....?

Your pic Swisso is also a bit more up to date than the two I just posted from Jason Hawkes latest collection.

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Probably the tree wil be removed. The meadow is just for the opening segment "Green and pleasant". Boyle stated after this the stage will change...

The meadow is also to be enjoyed by the public inside the stadium more than the audience for tv...

If the tree is only temporary, why install it 5 weeks before the ceremony?

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If the tree is only temporary, why install it 5 weeks before the ceremony?

Its the tree with secrets. The tree is possibly one of the most complex props out there at the moment with complex hidden mechanical or hydraulic scene changing devices underneath it for a later segment/s in the OC - particularly the very last segment of the night .......

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its the tree with secrets. Its probably one of the most complex props out there at the moment with possibly complex hidden mechanical or hydraulic scene changing devices underneath it for a later segment/s in the OC, particularly the very last segment of the night .......

Possibly, but I don't think it's just a simple little thing that will be whisked away to reveal a cauldron.

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Possibly, but I don't think it's just a simple little thing that will be whisked away to reveal a cauldron.

I fully agree with you that there is not going to be a Cauldron at that spot where the Tree is.

I do think that the Tree location will play a role in the lighting sequence of an external Cauldron.

A canal Cauldron structure remains a possibility as posted previously by engineer Bra'tac. Particularly since we don't know what is on that barge that is innocently and quietly still anchored there.

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Haven't there been barges on those canals for years now? And what's to say that particular barge isn't transporting in materials to be used inside the stadium?

Honestly who knows why its there, but I think that's a more likely explanation for its presence there than its being involved in tricky underwater installation of what would be a massive cauldron on a canal that is practically behind the VIP's inside the stadium...

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Haven't there been barges on those canals for years now? And what's to say that particular barge isn't transporting in materials to be used inside the stadium?

Honestly who knows why its there, but I think that's a more likely explanation for its presence there than its being involved in tricky underwater installation of what would be a massive cauldron on a canal that is practically behind the VIP's inside the stadium...

Yes who knows why it is there? That why I am asking. But that particular barge with its mysterious cargo has been there now for at least 2 two weeks and has remained unmoved since the last series of photos.

That apex of the Stadium waterways is the northern end and of the Stadium and, as in several Opeing Ceremonies, the VIPs would simply look to their left to see a Cauldron.

Who is to say a canal Cauldron structure would be installed right underneath where the barges are anchored. They are simply anchored in that spot, "off to one side". If the barges are carrying Cauldron related equipment (and we have no idea if they are) we still have no clue where the Cauldron structure will eventually be installed or attached.

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Haven't there been barges on those canals for years now? And what's to say that particular barge isn't transporting in materials to be used inside the stadium?

Honestly who knows why its there, but I think that's a more likely explanation for its presence there than its being involved in tricky underwater installation of what would be a massive cauldron on a canal that is practically behind the VIP's inside the stadium...

I'm not expecting underwater installation, but that barge has been there for a while and I haven't seen others in the vicinity for quite some time.

I hear lots of people say where the cauldron won't be, but few people say where it they think it WILL be. If you shoot down someone's hypothesis, perhaps you can offer an alternate idea.

My money is still on that area just north of the stadium. It's perfectly aligned with everything else, gaslines are in place, it was mentioned in the article as the cauldron site as was a height of up to 150m. If some of those pods in that big cluster are moved, there is room (there is no other clump of pods like that anywhere else in the park. Everywhere else they are in linear compositions. A cauldron at that end would not visually compete with the Orbit and could be seen by media and VIPs.

It is odd having the pods there and not having seen any foundation go in, but all things considered, I still don't see a more likely spot.

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I'm not expecting underwater installation, but that barge has been there for a while and I haven't seen others in the vicinity for quite some time.

I hear lots of people say where the cauldron won't be, but few people say where it they think it WILL be. If you shoot down someone's hypothesis, perhaps you can offer an alternate idea.

My money is still on that area just north of the stadium. It's perfectly aligned with everything else, gaslines are in place, it was mentioned in the article as the cauldron site as was a height of up to 150m. If some of those pods in that big cluster are moved, there is room (there is no other clump of pods like that anywhere else in the park. Everywhere else they are in linear compositions. A cauldron at that end would not visually compete with the Orbit and could be seen by media and VIPs.

It is odd having the pods there and not having seen any foundation go in, but all things considered, I still don't see a more likely spot.

I agree AthensFan and if odds were put on it, then I also agree that a structure on dry land is more likely than a pre-installed structure rising up out of one of the canals. Both are possibilities. the dry land one sounds more likey.

BUt where are the foundations and prep work for such a Cauldron structure? Has all that been done so long ago that all they need to do is lift up a hidden concrete lid and install that thing under the cover of night close to the OC? Maybe this plan has been hatched long long ago and that those foundations, anchor points and gasline links are lying in wait as we speak - but where ??

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I'm not expecting underwater installation, but that barge has been there for a while and I haven't seen others in the vicinity for quite some time.

I hear lots of people say where the cauldron won't be, but few people say where it they think it WILL be. If you shoot down someone's hypothesis, perhaps you can offer an alternate idea.

My money is still on that area just north of the stadium. It's perfectly aligned with everything else, gaslines are in place, it was mentioned in the article as the cauldron site as was a height of up to 150m. If some of those pods in that big cluster are moved, there is room (there is no other clump of pods like that anywhere else in the park. Everywhere else they are in linear compositions. A cauldron at that end would not visually compete with the Orbit and could be seen by media and VIPs.

It is odd having the pods there and not having seen any foundation go in, but all things considered, I still don't see a more likely spot.

The pods are clustered up like that because there aren't any on the west side of the stadium as the VIP building takes up concourse space. The pods that would go on the west side occupy space on the northern end.

And I'm just going by observation. If I see something that looks like it could be for a cauldron, I'll propose it as a possible location.

Eery area both inside and outside the stadium that's been put forward as a posible location (the Orbit, inside the stadium in front of the screen, outside on the northern end, the canals) has its strong points against it and none of them seem likely to me at this point.

I used to think a cauldron on the northern of the stadium was pretty much a definite, but then I realized how much of a foundation Torino's cauldron tower needed and observed how little activity is and has taken place in that area.

Perhaps as July 27th approaches, we'll see activity congregate on a particular spot and things will become more and more clear, but again, it's hard to say at this point. I personally like it this way; it'll be great on the organizers if we go into the night of the ceremony without knowing where the cauldron will be, unlike with every other past Games. We'll be in for a real surprise.

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This view confirm me there is absolutely no work underway in the plaza at the north of the stadium...

olympic-stadium_2248127k.jpg

Even under the "famous" pod...

I really like this view of the 'stadium island' looks very good

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No, I said all places have their fair points against them at this point so I'm not going to stand behind any of them at this point. It was in response to your suggesting that I should perhaps propose an alternate ideas instead of shooting people's hypothesis down.

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I really like this view of the 'stadium island' looks very good

It is a gorgeous shot. It's nice to see some plants and trees in the Olympic park for a change. Athens and Beijing were both pretty sparse in that way.

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Now we know the five rings will most probably be flying around, it made me wonder could the cauldron be forged in similar patterns and perhaps the most obvious location for the cauldron then is in the centre of the roof, hovering above the field supported by the wires? When no signs of possible construction outside the stadium, one can only look in now. :)

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The bad thing about that gorgeous picture is: Everything looks so neat and ready that it seems pretty improbable now that they want to destroy that neat picture by digging the ground up and planting a cauldron in it. ;)

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If the tree is only temporary, why install it 5 weeks before the ceremony?

Well said, that is actually a very good observation. Why do they build the tor and the tree (which is almost finished) so far ahead to the rest?? It does make you wonder that part of the stadium must be really important or they need to test things out early for whatever they are doing there. I am keeping my hawk's eye on the tree and tor.

The tor is such a gigantic structure, and well-finished it is bound to stay there throughout the ceremony. Not sure about the tree, but if the tree is removed (or at least will be lifted up that is for sure given the vertical wires), what will replace the tree then? I can't see the tree being pulled down beneath the tor, the branch and canopy looks too big to squeeze into the shaft struture we saw in earlier photos. No way that tree is just there for decoration purpose and remain unchanged throughout the ceremony. It will just be pointless.

The tree will definitely have a function. Either the tree will be taken apart and removed - leaving an empty tor and hence allowing something else to happen on the tor. Or the tree will transform into something else.There MUST be something more than that, and who knows what hides under that tor! Practising my theory of deduction here! :)

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