kevzz 146 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Yes the bell is at the other end stage Link to post Share on other sites
NY20?? 98 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I really don't think the cauldron will rise out of the tor. Yes, there's space, but I think the purpose of the tor is to act as a stage and platform -- not a cover up. Plus, Adrian already said the cauldron wasn't there. Sydney's stage doubled as the cauldron's holding spot, let's not forget. And for the sake of clarification and to ensure everyone is caught up (because I'm not), what exactly did Adrian say? Does he know exactly where it's going to be or does he have a general idea of where it may or may not go? Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 He said that round construction had nothing to do with the cauldron. Link to post Share on other sites
pjpauly2k 13 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Have you seen the most recent image from the stadium? Here it is from the opening ceremony forum (spoiler alert to anyone who doesnt want to know anything about the opening ceremony) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Is the ring on top of the roof new at the bottom left of this picture? I dont remember seeing it before. Could this have anything to do with the cauldron?? Or at least the lighting of the Cauldron outside the stadium??? Sorry, bottom right, not bottom left. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
paul 619 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I'm imagining the final torch somehow traveling down the mini Thames to that ramp. That tree area has to be the location of the couldron. ...it's odd the rings are so strewn all about, makes one think the process of comming together may be part of the cerimony. Will they perhaps be discovered scene by scene to finaly join in some sort of climax. ...can the rings end up permanently attached to the "platform" above the tree? ....will the couldron be possitioned with the rings as a backdrom? ....I think the couldron will rise above roofline, or I hope so. Link to post Share on other sites
paul 619 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 ...also still curious about that graphic on the cerimony tickets, and how it may indicat some design ellement in the couldron.. ...havent seen anythign like that in any of the other graphic compositions, an explosive arangement of armatures seems like one of the designers trademarck design ques. Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I still don't think the cauldron will replace the tree. It's definitely that general direction, but I still think it will be a tower outside the stadium. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
paul65 8 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thanks for sharing pjpauly2k. From looking at the shadows under those rings it looks like they are suspended on the intricate roof cable runners. I wonder do they come together to make the olympic rings? If so then the fifth ring is missing. Don't think these will be cauldron related. Have you seen the most recent image from the stadium? Here it is from the opening ceremony forum (spoiler alert to anyone who doesnt want to know anything about the opening ceremony) . Is the ring on top of the roof new at the bottom left of this picture? I dont remember seeing it before. Could this have anything to do with the cauldron?? Or at least the lighting of the Cauldron outside the stadium??? Sorry, bottom right, not bottom left. Link to post Share on other sites
Matt05 1 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Thanks for sharing pjpauly2k. From looking at the shadows under those rings it looks like they are suspended on the intricate roof cable runners. I wonder do they come together to make the olympic rings? If so then the fifth ring is missing. Don't think these will be cauldron related. If you look closely there are actuallly 5 rings. 2 of them are to the right side of ther river themse and one right at the bridge leading to this hill. The other one lying on the white floor and the fifth on on the rooftop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
paul65 8 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Ah yes Matt I see all five now. Your eyes are better than mine. LOL If you look closely there are actuallly 5 rings. 2 of them are to the right side of ther river themse and one right at the bridge leading to this hill. The other one lying on the white floor and the fifth on on the rooftop. Link to post Share on other sites
olympicdreamin 5 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Ah yes Matt I see all five now. Your eyes are better than mine. LOL I believe there are five rings in the picture. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kenadian 300 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hmmm...Remember that failed 'river of fire' from the 2000 celebrations? An idea for lighting the cauldron? Link to post Share on other sites
kevzz 146 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) There's more pictures here, a close up of the tree. There's vertical wires hanging from the tree top, very possible the tree is to be lifted up or removed. Something is definitely coming out from under the tree/ beneath the tor. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158842/London-Olympics-2012-Images-Houses-Parliament-bathed-morning-sun.html More and more are being revealed now and in a way I don't want to know too much anymore. Want the rest to be a surprise. Conundrum! Edited June 13, 2012 by kevzz 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Victor Mata 272 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I see Thames there. Will it be water? LEDs? The route of the last torchbearer? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AustralianFan 72 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Is there any way we can have a definite way of telling the distance of the tree from the roof? Sometimes photos can be misleading and hard to tell for sure. I have a feeling the tree and the stage is actually outside of the roof rim and hence shouldn't be a problem having cauldron there. Also the height distance might be so big that even if the roof is directly on top it shouldn't be a problem too. Sydney's stage doubled as the cauldron's holding spot, let's not forget. There's more pictures here, a close up of the tree. There's vertical wires hanging from the tree top, very possible the tree is to be lifted up or removed. Something is definitely coming out from under the tree/ beneath the tor. Thanks for the photos Pipauly2k and Kevzz Aside from the safety hazard of a Cauldron amongst the spectator seating area, the other reasons the Cauldron cannot be where the tree is are: it will block the view of spectators behind it during the Athletics competition and the Closing Ceremony, and also block the view of the scoreboard and the large tv screen during these. It is highly likely that the Cauldron will be anchored on a tower structure outside the Stadium so many more can see it. It is highly improbable that the unique London Heatherwick 'sculpture' Cauldron we are all expecting is going to be moved at all - like we re-arrange furniture at home. Yes, Sydney's Cauldron was hidden under a stage but it rose up out of the stage and (eventually) travelled up a set of very strong and sturdy metal rail tracks to the very top of the Stadiium. We're talking chalk and cheese when comparing Sydney's with London's completely different Stadium design and strength. I agree that the wires and ledge above indicate the Tree has a greater purpose other than 'just being a tree' - but not as the Cauldron or a disguise above a hidden one. Perhaps the tree will be lifted up, split apart or itself be some sort of link for the final torchbearer/s in the lighting sequence to a separately located external Cauldron. Edited June 14, 2012 by AustralianFan Link to post Share on other sites
NY20?? 98 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I don't think a cauldron in the area of the thor is a given, but I don't think it's completely impossible at this point either. I would take that over a large cauldron outside the stadium and here's why: Old aerial pictures of the northern end of the stadium. No real signs of a pre-laid foundation for a tall cauldron tower. And the Daily Mail would've made sure to take pictures of this area if there was significant activity going on, so I would say probably isn't at the moment. Time is quickly running out for such a big structure to start getting anchored to the concourse... Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 What is that light colored circular object though? It's perfectly aligned with the stadium and the triangular floodlight. Are you sure it isn't evidence that the cauldron WILL be outside the stadium to the north? Link to post Share on other sites
NY20?? 98 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 What is that light colored circular object though? It's perfectly aligned with the stadium and the triangular floodlight. Are you sure it isn't evidence that the cauldron WILL be outside the stadium to the north? Whatever it is, there are more just like it at multiple points around the stadium so it's doubtful they're cauldron related. Link to post Share on other sites
Athensfan 1081 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Whatever it is, there are more just like it at multiple points around the stadium so it's doubtful they're cauldron related. Dummies! To throw us off the scent! I'm kidding..... Still betting on a cauldron to the north outside the stadium. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AustralianFan 72 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Hmmm...Remember that failed 'river of fire' from the 2000 celebrations? An idea for lighting the cauldron? Wasn't the "River of Fire" on Closing Ceremony night in 2000 just part of a line of a series of strategically placed fireworks barges that stretched from inner Sydney Harbour past the Bridge and up the Parramatta River to Olympic Park? I do remember there were a hell of a lot fireworks going off from many barges from Olympic Park right up the river and well into Sydney Harbour that memorable night after it all ended. For London's OC, will the Torch travel up the Thames to a waterway close to Olympic Park? (for Sydney, it travelled to near the Stadium on a 'rivercat' ferry) Edited June 14, 2012 by AustralianFan Link to post Share on other sites
Nacholympic 89 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 There's more pictures here, a close up of the tree. There's vertical wires hanging from the tree top, very possible the tree is to be lifted up or removed. Something is definitely coming out from under the tree/ beneath the tor. http://www.dailymail...orning-sun.html More and more are being revealed now and in a way I don't want to know too much anymore. Want the rest to be a surprise. Conundrum! Probably the tree wil be removed. The meadow is just for the opening segment "Green and pleasant". Boyle stated after this the stage will change... The meadow is also to be enjoyed by the public inside the stadium more than the audience for tv... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kenadian 300 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Wasn't the "River of Fire" on Closing Ceremony night in 2000 just part of a line of a series of strategically placed fireworks barges that stretched from inner Sydney Harbour past the Bridge and up the Parramatta River to Olympic Park? I do remember there were a hell of a lot fireworks going off from many barges from Olympic Park right up the river and well into Sydney Harbour that memorable night after it all ended. For London's OC, will the Torch travel up the Thames to a waterway close to Olympic Park? (for Sydney, it travelled to near the Stadium on a 'rivercat' ferry) Oh, I meant the one for the millennium New Years Eve celebrations in London for Dec 31, 1999 - Jan 1, 2000: http://news.bbc.co.u...news/587071.stm Edited June 14, 2012 by Kenadian Link to post Share on other sites
HJPro 8 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Oh, I meant the one for the millennium New Years Eve celebrations in London for Dec 31, 1999 - Jan 1, 2000: http://news.bbc.co.u...news/587071.stm It was a bit of a fail. Link to post Share on other sites
kevzz 146 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 It was a bit of a fail. Seems like whenever they try to do something spectacular with the river, it always ends up a damp squib. The millennium fire and also the diamond jubilee river pageant. It's those things they wished people will not remember. Link to post Share on other sites
Baptista 27 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 What´s that? Sorry for the previous post...i can´t attach the image.... Link to post Share on other sites
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