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And, as noted earlier, Atopia's Jane Harrison said the same thing.

Incidentally, did anybody else spot the following two oddities about the Atopia Sketchbook:

1) No signs of revisions. It's either a presentation document made to look like a sketchbook, or at best a storyboard for a Powerpoint based on the text they submitted to LOCOG.

2) No sign of the Friend Ship, which wasn't officially cancelled until AFTER their pavilion proposal was submitted to LOCOG. That means they knew when they were preparing their submission that the Friend Ship would not sail, and similar concepts incorporated in a new project would more likely be welcomed than seen as interfering.

Regardless of what Atopia released. it was:

1. Not the same one that LOCOG has received. They chose to release it because it illustrated their claim quite graphically.

2. The Friend-Ship issue isn't even involved, JMark. Neither Atopia nor what's left of LOCOG have an issue with that.

So, your two points don't help or hinder the issue.

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Regardless of what Atopia released. it was:

1. Not the same one that LOCOG has received. They chose to release it because it illustrated their claim quite graphically.

2. The Friend-Ship issue isn't even involved, JMark. Neither Atopia nor what's left of LOCOG have an issue with that.

So, your two points don't help or hinder the issue.

But they do, I think, help to explain what happened, in a way which does not require anybody to have lied; possibly not even to have done anything wrong at all.

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http://www.archdaily.com/389848/thomas-heatherwick-designs-garden-bridge-in-london/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b037tmh6/The_Culture_Show_2013_2014_The_Unstoppable_Thomas_Heatherwick/

Very interesting culture show today about Thomas Heatherwick and Joana Lumley’s ideas for a garden bridge in central London with fully grown trees on it.

They also touch on the Atopia issue which I think I just unfortunate.



Is just unfortunate.

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we should post all the petals from all the countries

And how different would each one look from the others? I mean I don't even think they imprinted the country's particular name, did they? Can't see it from the GB one. Might as well include the Paralympic petals since the only difference would be "XIV Summer Paralympics" instead of "XXXth Olympiad."

Can you post the Philippine petals??

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And how different would each one look from the others? I mean I don't even think they imprinted the country's particular name, did they? Can't see it from the GB one. Might as well include the Paralympic petals since the only difference would be "XIV Summer Paralympics" instead of "XXXth Olympiad."

Can you post the Philippine petals??

each petal is unique. you can see the GB on the third picture

Petal 1 of 204: Great Britain
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also, i might get in contact with the philippine olympic committe. but to be honest it might be in some officials house or stored in a a cupboard in a office never to be seen again.

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from few pages back:

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Rio 2016™ president gets a piece of the London Games' Olympic pyre

Souvenir of the 2012 Games was delivered by Sebastian Coe during the debriefing of the latest edition of the Olympic and Paralympic Summer Games

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The Rio 2016™ Olympic and Paralympic Games Organising Committee will have a piece of the London 2012 Games to provide inspiration during the cycle before the completion of the first games in South America. The olympic pyre from the London Games were dismembered to be delivered to Olympic Committees leaders who participated in the competitions.

This Sunday, the chairman of LOCOG and the British Olympic Association, Sebatian Coe, gave part of the artifact in the hands of the President of Rio 2016™, Carlos Arthur Nuzman, during the official IOC Debriefing of the London Games.


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India:

London mayor hands Olympic cauldron petals to India

Every country which competed at the London Games was represented by a copper petal on the cauldron designed by Thomas Heatherwick. The petals are now being offered to each country as a legacy of their sporting achievements, and will be delivered around the globe before the end of the year.
In total, 204 Olympic petals and 164 Paralympic petals will be offered to competing nations.
Johnson Monday met V.K. Malhotra, acting president of the Indian Olympic Association, bronze medal winning boxer M.C. Mary Kom and silver medallist pistol shooter Vijay Kumar to present the petals at a ceremony hosted by the British High Commission.
"It's a wonderful honour for me to present these beautiful petals to India as a fitting memento of the achievements of Indian athletes in London this summer," Johnson said.
"The iconic, graceful Olympic cauldron is a potent symbol of the best of British engineering and design, and represents exactly the sort of skills we have to offer the rest of the world, in particular in emerging export markets such as India."
"As mayor, welcoming the world to our fantastic city for the Games was the experience of a lifetime. It's a pleasure to be able to bring these petals to Delhi as a gift from London to thank India for being part of our unforgettable summer," Johnson said.
India's petals were the third set to be presented. The first were handed over by Sebastian Coe, chairperson of the London Games organising committee, to the British Olympic Association, and the second to Brazil.
About 100 school children from Delhi took part in the handover ceremony.
The London mayor is on a five−day visit to India, accompanied by a delegation of top business people, to promote London as the destination of choice for investors and international trade. He will also visit Hyderabad and Mumbai

http://www.business-...to-india/84013/

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Does this mean you'll be tracking down the other 203?

Would be a nice trip around the world ;)

And how different would each one look from the others? I mean I don't even think they imprinted the country's particular name, did they? Can't see it from the GB one. Might as well include the Paralympic petals since the only difference would be "XIV Summer Paralympics" instead of "XXXth Olympiad."

Each one is different.

The base plate (?) is numbered. The text: XXX Olympiad London 2012 Great Britain

Aha! Where is that Martijn? And does anyone know what happened to the Canadian & Kiwi ones? I believe the Aussie one is in the MCG somewhere.

London City Hall (part of a temporary exhibition; 2012 Team GB Glory Moments)

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So that's not its permanent home?

i think it was suppose to be part of the museum that going on the base of The ArcelorMittal Orbit (which i lovingly call 'chav tower'. i and the velodrome the 'pringle'). it was shelve but they had money to propose a ski park in the olympic park. for shame.

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There are 370 unique petals

PETAL LEGACY
The story of 'Betty' is almost at an end. As 2012 draws to a close, the last of the cauldron petals have been carefully packaged and removed from our workshops to be dispatched around the globe, providing each participating nation with a beautiful legacy of the Games.
After the London 2012 Closing Ceremony, the 204 petals that comprised the cauldron bowl were returned to Yorkshire where we removed the oxidisation accumulated during the two weeks' burn, mindful to retain the unique patina each petal had acquired whilst playing host to the Olympic flame. Each petal was then mounted on an engraved black gloss plinth and enclosed within a clear acrylic box.
We have taken great pride at being involved in such a unique and memorable project and the generous concept behind Thomas Heatherwick's design means that 204 petals that originated in our workshops will end up in 204 different nations around the world - a truly global event coming to a unique and satisfyingly global close.
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Petals from the London 2012 Cauldron Will be Delivered to All Four Corners of the World

Miami, FL 2012 - This week, UPS is completing the final deliveries of the Olympic and Paralympic Cauldron Petals to each of the 204 competing nations, bringing a small piece of London 2012 to the world. The London 2012 Cauldron, created by world-renowned designer, Thomas Heatherwick, includes 370 custom made Petals which have been specially encased in presentation boxes, engraved and sent to each Olympic and Paralympic nation as a memento of the London 2012 Games.

Across the globe, UPS is taking care of the safe handling, packaging and delivery of this final token of London 2012. As part of its service solution, UPS has created special bespoke packaging to ensure all the Petals are housed safely and correctly for their onward journeys.

"The Cauldron was designed around the concept of bringing 204 very small humble objects together to build a single unified creation at the centre of the stadium," said Cauldron designer Thomas Heatherwick. "Very much like the Games, it signifies a coming together of the world, united during London 2012. It is an incredible feeling to know that with the delivery of the copper elements to each of the Olympic nations, through UPS, the legacy of London 2012 will continue to burn bright round the world."

"The final delivery of the Petals is a real honour for us at UPS and marks the end of more than four years of planning," said Cindy Miller, Managing Director, UPS UK, Ireland & Nordics. "Playing such a central role in delivering London 2012 has been an incredible opportunity for both our employees and for the business as a whole. With the delivery of the Petals to each competing nation, hopefully this small piece of London 2012 will ensure the memory of the Games lives on, not just here in the UK, but across the world."

http://www.ups.com/content/bb/en/about/news/press_releases/20121212_petals.html

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It's a shame this isn't being properly followed up. I assumed when the cauldron idea first came to light (i.e. at the opening ceremony!), we'd get a website or a book or something showing where all the petals ended up.

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It's a shame this isn't being properly followed up. I assumed when the cauldron idea first came to light (i.e. at the opening ceremony!), we'd get a website or a book or something showing where all the petals ended up.

But how tedious would that be -- seeing 204 (+164) images of the same thing w/ just a name change? :blink: C'mon Rob...

Besides, in countries where their NOCs / Para's have their OWN or maybe even combined offices, that's probably where they're sitting now. If they sports/Olympic musea, then so much the better! If not, then probably at some sports chieftain's house.

Remember, Atlanta tried something like this in 1996 when it invited and sent out the Flame in the little miner's lamps from the main Torch to the seventeen other previous Summer host cities. I have been asked to finalize an article for the winter ISOH Journal on where the various Summer & Winter caldera are now--so if anyone has images/info of where the Moscow, Oslo-Helsinki 1952, Mexico 1968, Sapporo 1972 and Sarajvo 1984 caldera are or what they look like today, it would be greatly appreciated. (Never got a reply from the Bislett stadium people.) So, u can just imagine how insurmountable such a project of tracking down where the 368 London 2012 petals went.

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So, u can just imagine how insurmountable such a project of tracking down where the 368 London 2012 petals went.

Well, it would be NOW. But if organisers asked for a photo or something to be sent by each NOC I'm sure they'd have complied and we'd have a record of it, rather than all these dribs and drabs.

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On May 24, he DOSB (Germany's NOC) has loaned Germany's petal in the Olympic cauldron for two years to the German Sports & Olympic Museum in Cologne where it will be on display to the public. That happened during the celebration of Willi Daume's 100th birthday in the museum.

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Press release (in German)


I don't understand why they didn't loan it to the museum permanently. That was Germany's petal and not the DOSB's, so it belongs to the public and shouldn't be locked away in the DOSB headquarters after 2015. If Germany already has such an Olympic museum, it should keep its petal there.

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And this will probably be traumatic for all Olympic Flame purists: The cauldron wasn't extinguished only for the transition from the infield to the edge of the track after the opening ceremony, but also at least twice during and after the slight transition from the edge to the centre of the track for the closing ceremony. Pay attention to the cauldron at 0:37 and 0:47:

Makes one wonder who relit the cauldron there - and by which means. One can't see any Austin Playfoot on top of a cherrypicker in those pics. ;)

Here's the corresponding timelapse video for the opening ceremony, by the way:

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I've contacted the Dutch NOC. The Dutch petals are not on display to the public yet. More info (in Dutch) and a photo: http://www.olympischsporterfgoed.nl/cms/showpage.aspx?id=13482

(On that site also some pages from the Architect's Journal about the cauldron)

I don't know of this video was mentioned before? http://vimeo.com/50070330

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And this will probably be traumatic for all Olympic Flame purists: The cauldron wasn't extinguished only for the transition from the infield to the edge of the track after the opening ceremony, but also at least twice during and after the slight transition from the edge to the centre of the track for the closing ceremony. Pay attention to the cauldron at 0:37 and 0:47:

Makes one wonder who relit the cauldron there - and by which means. One can't see any Austin Playfoot on top of a cherrypicker in those pics. ;)

Well spotted. That's definitely edging into the disrespectful zone, and the IOC may make a point of discouraging such activities at Sochi and Rio.

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