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Was watching some of the athletics competitions just now. Just feels like there is no flame.

I guess they were so obsessed with their 'moment' of lighting the flame that they forgot about the other 25,000 other moments after it.

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Was watching some of the athletics competitions just now. Just feels like there is no flame.

I guess they were so obsessed with their 'moment' of lighting the flame that they forgot about the other 25,000 other moments after it.

Exactly! What were they thinking!? Seemingly, little thought went into this, which is unforgivable!

I have thought these have been a fabulous games so far, but the flame and it's 'absence' takes the shine off somewhat.

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The trouble isn't the design, the concept, or the relatively small size. It's just a little bit too far back so the camera isn't catching it while a lot of the events are on. If it was a bit further forward, or if the camera panned a bit higher occassionally, you'd see it as athletes were running the bend.

The BBC Studio inside the stadium has that side of the stadium behind their glass window and it looks wonderful seeing the "bowl" in amongst the crowds, surrounded by thousands of people. It really feels like the cauldron is part of the crowd, not elevated high above it.

The shots we do see of it are brilliant, but it would be good to see more of it!!!

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The trouble isn't the design, the concept, or the relatively small size. It's just a little bit too far back so the camera isn't catching it while a lot of the events are on. If it was a bit further forward, or if the camera panned a bit higher occassionally, you'd see it as athletes were running the bend.

The BBC Studio inside the stadium has that side of the stadium behind their glass window and it looks wonderful seeing the "bowl" in amongst the crowds, surrounded by thousands of people, not elevated high above it.

The shots we do see of it are brilliant, but it would be good to see more of it!!!

Up close, and at center it looks magnificent, it really does.

But sitting in the stands, it just looks pathetic. Awful, really.

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Spot the cauldron. The words on the screen is more visible than the flame! Just seen a close-up of the petals on TV, they are burnt black through and through beyond recognition

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OBS does seem to have chose more shots that include the cauldron today. Though I do wish it was on the opposite end of the stadium; its often behind the camera like in the discuss throw right now or during the 100m sprint.

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Its surprising that all the mechanics and technical bits at the base were just left exposed. This cauldron looks somewhat unfinished or even like a prototype. I love all the organic shaped hoods, very sculptural, very 70s, and very sexy. It also looks much like a big bowl of black mussels.

It's quite controversial, and seems to have become a symbol of confusing desicions. It does not capture the imagination and grandure of the games or London, in my opinion. I love to look at it though.

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Its surprising that all the mechanics and technical bits at the base were just left exposed. This cauldron looks somewhat unfinished or even like a prototype. I love all the organic shaped hoods, very sculptural, very 70s, and very sexy. It also looks much like a big bowl of black mussels.

It's quite controversial, and seems to have become a symbol of confusing desicions. It does not capture the imagination and grandure of the games or London, in my opinion. I love to look at it though.

I'm intrigued by your idea that the cauldron is "a symbol of confusing decisions."

I think it's very evident that LOCOG TRIED very hard to do something different -- from the logo to the ceremonies to the cauldron. They just fell short. While I applaud the effort, I think this cauldron is a reminder that true innovation, true inspiration cannot be forced. It cannot be summoned on command -- no matter how valiantly one tries. Our best efforts at manufacturing something truly visionary, while perhaps noble in intent, often result in awkward, half-born ideas that miss the mark. That is the way I would characterize LOCOG's aesthetic choices. They tried, but their noble attempts fell short -- possibly because they were simply trying too hard.

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But Heatherwick (w/ Boyle's acquiescence) only promised a "moment." He didn't promise a grandiose monument; one that would last forever. And so he delivered on his promise. And I accept that. I don't know why people find it so hard to accept that it's NOT as large as previous ones.

These are, after all, the 'senior-moment' Olympics. Missed a few posters of past Olympics in the opening retro; forgot that they needed to have a MONUMENTAL cauldron. So chill out; it's totally in character with an older, perhaps more Alzheimer's-accepting Games. I mean who remembers who were the runners in 1948. By 2032, people will have forgotten that there were even 204 of those petals.

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But Heatherwick (w/ Boyle's acquiescence) only promised a "moment." He didn't promise a grandiose monument; one that would last forever. And so he delivered on his promise. And I accept that. I don't know why people find it so hard to accept that it's NOT as large as previous ones.

Hmmm. I think the primary desire is for visibility -- not monumental scale. It feels like the central symbol of the Games is being dramatically underplayed -- to the point where it's almost totally lost.

And what's this defense of the cauldron all of a sudden. It was only a few days ago you wrote this:

As mechanically mesmerizing as the cauldron was ... it left me a bit cold ....

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I read a '1970's look' in here...True, that was the first thing that came to mind...If the Cauldron represents 1970's Great Britian - Ouch! The UK was a Sh#thole in the 1970s! <_<

Also the fact it was designed by a committee - It shows!

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