Athensfan Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 It MIGHT be hiding under any bushel anywhere. This whole thread is such TOTAL guesswork at this juncture that I don't see the point. LOCOG HAS WON. They've kept the secret. Is it in the blue structure? The purple structure? The white one? Under a bridge? In the canal? Scattered all over the city? There's no way to know anything. Do you realize that even after it is lit you won't know where it's been concealed prior to the ceremonies? If that's engrossing to you (I mean this sincerely) I hope you really have fun speculating, but I don't think it's reasonable to get irritated by a bit of topic drift considering the lack of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 One will definitely be in that central hole in the field. They didn't take great pains to dig it; set it up; plan the multiple cover layers, for nothing. Surely, it will reveal something IMPORTANT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphamale86 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Barron you contradict yourself. You said the Emcee said that LA Colosseum is the only arena to host TWO Olympic Opening Ceremonies. That is in fact true the other two you spoke about hosted events in the same place but not the Opening ceremony. So the emcee was right. Had he said the colosseum was the only one to host two events then i would agree with you but he was specific enough. And I understand his pride as apparently we are now in the age where we build brand new stadiums for the games yet we all know if LA were to bid or win another games the opening ceremony will take place once again in the Colosseum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY20?? Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 What exactly has been the point of the last 160 pages, then? When did we cross the line into throwing away anything, potentially legitamate, anyone brings up in this thread simply because "it won't matter, you'll never know!" in the end. Some of us are still looking out for this thing, some of us are still intereted in seeing if we can figure out where this damn cauldron is before the 27th. If you're not at all anymore, then maybe you should step out of this thread. You can always start a seperate thread for discussions that truly are tedious, nuance-filled, and ultimately un-conclusionalbe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldi Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 the blue strucgture is exactly at the same spot / size / as the black fenced area i was wondering about > is there something growing?? Latest picture from today July 21st. What's that blue structure in front of the stadium towards the middle of the picture...? at the north of the stadium >exactly at the spot we saw yesterday 'fenced' off on someone's flickr account - - - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldi Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 >>>> it's growing / and it's growing fast >>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonbound Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 This must be it. Are people sure it's the fenced off area? That seemed in line with one of the light towers but this seems off line although it's hard to tell in that picture. Also What's the purple thing to the left of it? And how will it not block the entry to sections 249-251? Looks like its going to be surrounded by the blue thing until its unveiled so we won't have much info until Friday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrack Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 LOCOG HAS WON. They've kept the secret. If you're not at all anymore, then maybe you should step out of this thread. Although I was not the target of either of these comments, I think I'll take both to heart personally. What I mean to say is that it's less than a week away from the games and I still personally have no clue where I expect the cauldron to be. Lots of theories, but none more or less valid than the other (except for the Orbit; I strongly do not think that will be the cauldron). In that sense, LOCOG has won and I personally don't find much value in "knowing" mere days before the rest of world. I might as well sit back and enjoy the show like everyone else and just check back after the ceremony too see if my ideas were right. For the record, here's what I'm calling: Cauldron type: Moasic style, as might have been suggested by the ticket images. Cauldron location: Ceremonial lighting in the stadium, games/permanent location just outside in the north concourse. I suggested in the area where the double pod is, but that's not that likely now, but I'll stick with that. I'll be back in a week! Enjoy the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldi Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 This must be it. Are people sure it's the fenced off area? That seemed in line with one of the light towers but this seems off line although it's hard to tell in that picture. Also What's the purple thing to the left of it? And how will it not block the entry to sections 249-251? Looks like its going to be surrounded by the blue thing until its unveiled so we won't have much info until Friday... the purple thing is a massive 'sign' / orientation / help / for visitors in the olympic park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 >>>> it's growing / and it's growing fast >>>> Waldi, that's an optical illusion. If you look closely on the picture to the right, you'll recognise that that blue structure is in front of the service pods (which you can vaguely see in the background, between the treetops) and not behind it. So it can't be the fenced-off area directly at the stadium. This is confirmed by this picture (also taken today) which shows the northern side of the stadium and no tall blue structure near it at all: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldi Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Waldi, that's an optical illusion. If you look closely on the picture to the right, you'll recognise that that blue structure is in front of the service pods (which you can vaguely see in the background, between the treetops) and not behind it. So it can't be the fenced-off area directly at the stadium. This is confirmed by this picture (also taken today) which shows the northern side of the stadium and no tall blue structure near it at all: OK - you're right > time for me to go to bed i guess --- good night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjpauly2k Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 LOCOG HAS WON. They've kept the secret. Ive been following this forum for months, not posted much but I have to admit with this statement. Even if we find out tomorrow what the cauldron looks like and where it is, I have to admit LOCOG have done very well in keeping it a secret for this long!!! Its now got to the point where, even though Ive been on here for months trying to get a glimpse of the cauldron and its location, I really hope the secret is kept unitl the night of the opening ceremony! OK this is unlikely but it would be so cool if they kept it a secret, even from us losers on these forums, unitl the last moment!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletDevil Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hey all, as has been said the blue building is in front of the pods, it looks in the perfect place for where the bbc tv studio is. As for the cauldron, i watched the super structures tv program and some of the girders were actually unused metalic gas mains. I work in the gas industry and we use plastic these days which is why they no longer needed for gas. however i doubt they would be used. my bets is for the garden area across the canal near the barge, as it seems to serve no other purpose. that or something that fits into the big square hole on top of the orbit observation deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympian.br Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 6 full days and audience rehearsals, hints will appear... Btw, when did the pictures from Beijing's roof-top disguise tent come out? A week before the OC? About this thread, although it would be nice to find the cauldron's location before the OC, the real fun is to especulate on it so this is a worthy thread still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Barron you contradict yourself. You said the Emcee said that LA Colosseum is the only arena to host TWO Olympic Opening Ceremonies. That is in fact true the other two you spoke about hosted events in the same place but not the Opening ceremony. So the emcee was right. Had he said the colosseum was the only one to host two events then i would agree with you but he was specific enough. And I understand his pride as apparently we are now in the age where we build brand new stadiums for the games yet we all know if LA were to bid or win another games the opening ceremony will take place once again in the Colosseum. No, no. I believe the claim is the LA Coliseum claims to be the first stadium/arena to host TWO OOCs, not the ONLY. Actually, THREE (3) stadia had already hosted TWO full Opening Ceremonies: the aforesaid St. Moritz AND Stockholm held both their OCs at the same venue; AND Innsbruck for 1964 AND 1976. So LA's claim is false. St. Moritz doubled in 1948; Stockholm doubled in 1956; Innsbruck in 1976--so how could LA have achieved that feat in 1984 if THREE other cities/venues already did? LA may have the dubious claim to being the first FULL, summer OCs but (1) they never specify that; and (2) even that is debatable because Stockholm's was a FULL OC in 1956 because the entire IOC brass was there; it was accorded all the trappings and protocol portions used in previous OCS, so for me; that qualifies as a legitimate Olympic Opening Ceremony. Check the Official Records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacholympic Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 No, no. I believe the claim is the LA Coliseum claims to be the first stadium/arena to host TWO OOCs, not the ONLY. St. Moritz AND Stockholm held both their OCs at the same venue. So LA's claim is false. St. Moritz doubled in 1948; Stockholm doubled in 1956--so how could LA have achieved that feat in 1984 if two other cities/venues already did? Is that not clear enough? (And Stockholm's was a FULL OC in 1956 because the entire IOC brass was there; it had all the trappings and protocol portions used in previous OCS, so for me; that qualifies as a legitimate Olympic Opening Ceremony. Check the Official Records. Dp not forget Bergisel Stadium in Innsbruck. It is the only venue in the world ahich has staged 3 Olympic Opening Ceremonies: Winter Olympics in 1964 and 1976; and Winter YOG in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Just think of them as commercial breaks, which often happen when we dont want them to - but they fill in the gaps when nothing is happening in the thread. I actually totally agree with this. I check the thread on the off-chance something is unearthed at the eleventh hour, but I don't really expect a big revelation. Some commercials can actually be entertaining and interesting. That's why I keep checking the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Dp not forget Bergisel Stadium in Innsbruck. It is the only venue in the world ahich has staged 3 Olympic Opening Ceremonies: Winter Olympics in 1964 and 1976; and Winter YOG in 2012 Exactly, I just made the correction in my #1616 post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissO Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hey all, as has been said the blue building is in front of the pods, it looks in the perfect place for where the bbc tv studio is. As for the cauldron, i watched the super structures tv program and some of the girders were actually unused metalic gas mains. I work in the gas industry and we use plastic these days which is why they no longer needed for gas. however i doubt they would be used. my bets is for the garden area across the canal near the barge, as it seems to serve no other purpose. that or something that fits into the big square hole on top of the orbit observation deck. A view with the blue boxes (on the left side) ... so definitively BBC ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeUSA Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Everyone, I agree, LOCOG has got us all, not because they are smarter, but because they are bigger Olympic dorks than us. 7 years ago they gave extremely valuable seats to schoolchildren, they have defined whatever norms before them, From logo to stadium design these will be unique games, London has raised the bar above Beijing, not by sheer number but by uniqueness, i will everyday read and view trying to predict what has been set. I have and have and great hopes for London 2012. Here we go all!!!! Keep guessing, keep predicting and for all of our sake, give us a clue London....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickbuilder711 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Actually I thought that the blue fenced area could have been the cauldron. The shape of the white structure inside it looked like one, a bowl could be made out from the top. Since I find myself stumped, I agree that LOCOG really won this and will have to be a bit patient to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.A.Fan.I.Am Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi all. I've been reading this thread with interest for some time and love all the different views on the location of the cauldron. One point to LOCOG nil to everyone else as it seems we are no closer yet to breaking the cauldron mistery. At this late stage I hope it does stay hidden as it means the surprise on Friday will be all the better. But for what it's worth... In the absence of any other obvious clues it seems to me that the Orbit might play an important role. Who knows? I'd love it not to be as it's way too obvious.... Not long to go now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJPro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 It MIGHT be hiding under any bushel anywhere. This whole thread is such TOTAL guesswork at this juncture that I don't see the point. LOCOG HAS WON. They've kept the secret. Is it in the blue structure? The purple structure? The white one? Under a bridge? In the canal? Scattered all over the city? There's no way to know anything. Do you realize that even after it is lit you won't know where it's been concealed prior to the ceremonies? If that's engrossing to you (I mean this sincerely) I hope you really have fun speculating, but I don't think it's reasonable to get irritated by a bit of topic drift considering the lack of information. Then please leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetic Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 More evidence that the lighting is going to be different to what has gone before. I'm reasonably sure I know at least part of the 'moment', and it is going to be both beautiful and clever. (I don't buy the five athletes idea, I think it's press speculation.) London 2012 Olympics: five athletes may light flame at opening ceremony - One of the men deciding who will light the Olympic cauldron at Friday night’s opening ceremony has given a strong hint yet that it will not be Sir Steve Redgrave or Daley Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJPro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 It MIGHT be hiding under any bushel anywhere. This whole thread is such TOTAL guesswork at this juncture that I don't see the point. LOCOG HAS WON. They've kept the secret. Is it in the blue structure? The purple structure? The white one? Under a bridge? In the canal? Scattered all over the city? There's no way to know anything. Do you realize that even after it is lit you won't know where it's been concealed prior to the ceremonies? If that's engrossing to you (I mean this sincerely) I hope you really have fun speculating, but I don't think it's reasonable to get irritated by a bit of topic drift considering the lack of information. If you believe these things More evidence that the lighting is going to be different to what has gone before. I'm reasonably sure I know at least part of the 'moment', and it is going to be both beautiful and clever. (I don't buy the five athletes idea, I think it's press speculation.) London 2012 Olympics: five athletes may light flame at opening ceremony - One of the men deciding who will light the Olympic cauldron at Friday night’s opening ceremony has given a strong hint yet that it will not be Sir Steve Redgrave or Daley Thompson. Yes, I've been speculating this for some time now, why choose one when you can have more? It creates new options... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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