stryker Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 For arguments sake, let's say Turkey picks the Olympics of Euro 2020. That leaves the UEFA with no bids. What would be UEFA's next step? Extend the bidding deadline and hope somebody else comes forward or go begging to an established football power that has the stadiums and infrastructure ready to go like Germany, Spain, Italy, England, or even Portugal again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 For arguments sake, let's say Turkey picks the Olympics of Euro 2020. That leaves the UEFA with no bids. What would be UEFA's next step? Extend the bidding deadline and hope somebody else comes forward or go begging to an established football power that has the stadiums and infrastructure ready to go like Germany, Spain, Italy, England, or even Portugal again? I don't think it's likely Turkey will choose the Olympics over the Euro, but if they do I think UEFA would simply go to Germany. The Germans said all along that they would only bid if Turkey didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Turkey knows they have Euro 2020 already secure, so I wouldn't wait for them to quit... I agree that if there are no bids then Germany will be the host for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I think if Turkey did decided to drop the Euro bid, UEFA would ask Germany to host, if Germany said no England, then Russia. There are significant problems with Italian stadiums and Spain will not drop their Olympic bid. Portugal is in a big, but stable mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 This isn't going to help.... Fenerbahce football fans riot in Istanbul after derby Hundreds of fans from Istanbul football club Fenerbahce have clashed with Turkish police and occupied the pitch after a title match. The team's traditional rival, Galatasaray, won the Turkish league championship following Saturday's goalless derby. Police used their shields to protect Galatasaray players on the pitch at Fenerbahce's Sukru Saracoglu stadium. Officers used pepper spray to disperse fans as players fled to changing rooms. The violence followed a tense game during which referee Cuneyt Cakir booked several players and issued red cards to one player from each team. After the final whistle, fans broke plastic chairs and threw them at the police and Galatasaray players. Flares were also thrown. Violence continued outside the stadium, with Fenerbahce fans pelting a police vehicle with stones. Rioters overturned rubbish bins and smashed shop windows, leaving nearby streets littered with debris. Fenerbahce fans in Istanbul's Kadikoy district also overturned two police vehicles and set them on fire. While journalists, players and even policemen were said to have been affected by pepper spray, there were no reports of injuries. However, elsewhere in the country a 29-year-old man wearing a Galatasaray shirt was attacked by Fenerbahce fans and stabbed in the abdomen, the state-run Anatolia agency said. The man was said to be in a stable condition. Galatasaray ended the four-way title play-offs with 48 points, one ahead of Fenerbahce. Trabzonspor were third and Besiktas fourth. Galatasaray, former Uefa Cup winners, are now level on 18 championships with Fenerbahce. Their fans celebrated in Istanbul, dancing, lighting flares and waving flags. http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-18046286 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18049366 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQavKmpKo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Turkey is looking terrible right now. This is a PR disaster for both bids. At this point they should just grab anything they can get. Imagine this one: UEFA determines they don't want them to host 2020 due to match-fixing and violence. Tukey says, "hooray! We'll keep the Olympic bid alive after all!" But do you really think there's any chance at all the IOC would accept what UEFA has already determined is beneath them? This couldn't be looking much worse for Turkey. They've done it to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Scotland and Wales late bid for Euro 2020 could be good news for Istanbul Olympic campaign Scotland and Wales are considering launching a joint bid to stage the UEFA European Championship 2020 football tournament, going head-to-head with Turkey, insidethegames has learned. With the deadline for initial written expressions of interest just 24 hours away, a source close to UEFA confirmed that "there could be a British candidate" to rival the Turks as hosts of the finals in eight years' time. It is understood that Scotland and Wales have been holding secret discussions for several weeks to bid for the tournament, possibly in conjunction with the Republic of Ireland, and that a formal application could be with European football's governing body before the Tuesday midnight deadline. By contrast, it is not expected a bid will be forthcoming from Eastern Europe as has been previously reported. Until now, only Turkey has formally applied to host Euro 2020, putting it in direct conflict with Istanbul's bid for the summer Olympics and Paralympics the same year. ... more: http://www.insidethe...lympic-campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Insidethegames reporting a possible scotland-wales bid in the offing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Interesting ! Any chance they win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Remeber Scotland has Hamped Park, Celtic Park, and Wales the Millenium Staium... It might be an intresting and good bid, but isn't to strong to beat Turkey perhaps :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangwon Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Smart move. Considering there's a chance Turkey may withdraw at some point (whether that be this month or next year), Scotland-Ireland could win by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 The final candidates are announced on Wenesday right? *in case there where more than one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I think they're taking a calculated risk here. They will either look incredibly smart should Turkey's problems make their Euro bid unviable or should Istanbul win 2020. Or they'll end up looking like the only FAs willing to play UEFA's safety net in a bid destined to go to Turkey. I can see why big FAs that have hosted World Cups like Germany wouldn't want to risk being cast in that role, but I think it's a risk that could be worth it for Scotland-Wales. And they may have just saved Istanbul 2020's bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galandar Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Although Azerbaijan refused from a joint bid, Georgia still considers to bid alone for Euro 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 UEFA EURO 2020 bid interest Published: Wednesday 16 May 2012, 10.00CET Following the expiry of the deadline, some national associations have expressed interest in the bidding process to stage the 2020 UEFA European Championship. UEFA has announced that, within the 15 May deadline that was set by the UEFA Executive Committee at its March meeting, some national associations have expressed their interest in the bidding process for the organisation of the UEFA European Football Championship in 2020. Consequently, and in accordance with the decision of its Executive Committee and as presented to the UEFA Congress, UEFA will now launch a formal process which will allow any of its 53 member associations to submit their candidature, irrespective of whether or not they declared a preliminary interest in hosting the 24-team competition. The bidding process will last approximately 18 months to allow candidates to elaborate their dossiers. A detailed timeline will be developed in the coming weeks and will be submitted, along with proposed bid regulations, to UEFA's Executive Committee on the occasion of its next meeting on 30 June in Kyiv. A decision on the hosts can be expected at the beginning of 2014, with the exact time frame still to be decided. UEFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 So is still open the process? I think we might se a fourth bid perhaps... When is the final deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brekkie Boy Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Scotland-Wales-Ireland is interesting, and although opening it up to 24 teams means the requirements have risen from 31 games to 51 games by having 24 teams it is now an option to have three automatically qualify as hosts as it still leaves 21 places open. Perhaps a Scandanvian bid might follow in future years. How it splits will be crucial - the obvious is two groups each but I think Scotland might take a third. In terms of a final venue the Millennium Stadium is the best bet (Croke Park is bigger, but it'll take persuasion for them to allow footballers onto their ground again). I'd imagine then either Ibrox or Celtic Park and the Aviva Stadium get the semi finals, with two quarters in Scotland and one each in Wales and Ireland. The 16-team second round may be split in Scotlands favour again (4-2-2 or 3-3-2), and I think Scotland would get the Opening game - unless perhaps Dublin gets it and perhaps gives Scotland both semi-finals as some kind of trade off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 If they get the Olympics they won't get the Euros, insists UEFA boss as Istanbul is shortlisted to host 2020 Games UEFA President Michel Platini has once again reiterated that Turkey will not be allowed to host the European Championship finals in 2020 if Istanbul is awarded the Olympics and Paralympics the same summer. Within hours of the International Olympic Committee's (IOC) Executive Board, at their meeting in Québec City, whittling down the 2020 candidates from five to three – Istanbul, Madrid and Tokyo – Platini said Turkey was deluding itself if it thought it could stage both events. "If Istanbul is given the Olympic Games, the Turks will not have the Euros," said Platini, here in the Hungarian capital for the FIFA Congress. "But if they don't get the Olympics and they are still at the time bidding for the Euros, I will vote for them as I have always said." ... Platini's comments were a potential boost for a possible tri-partite bid from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, the only expression of interest that landed at that UEFA headquarters by the May 15 deadline. They are not likely to be the only candidates, however, since UEFA have now opened the bidding to all 53 national associations, with the organisation's general secretary Gianni Infantino insisting the initial deadline was not deliberately imposed to make sure there was at least one rival for Turkey. ... He insisted UEFA had no input into the thinking of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland but admitted time would now have to be given for any other interested parties to come forward. "We didn't put any pressure on them," Infantino said. "Will they continue to bid? "Why not? "They have the stadiums, they have the infrastructure. "But everyone must now be given a chance, time to liaise with their Governments. "Look what happened to Rome when they pulled out of the 2020 Olympic race." http://www.insidethe...host-2020-games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Maybe I sound arrogant, but I hate these 2-, 3- or 4-nations-bids. That means, that the teams are automatically qualified for the group stage. We see it this year and we have seen it in 2008, there are quite tough groups and there weak groups. The Ukrainian team is a joke and the Swiss/Austrian teams have been a joke. Let Russia, Turkey, France, England, Spain, Italy and Germany host the Euro and not these tiny nations like Austria or Switzerland or unsuccessful nations like Poland and Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brekkie Boy Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 It's not so much of an issue though with 24 nation tournaments, still leaving 21 spots for others. I really don't think the Euro expansion is a good idea though - as you say it's pretty much tough from the get go with 16 teams but with 24 the group stage will be a formality with 2-3 from each group making the top 16, so the tournament is going to be less competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 There's no problem to qualify 2 countries automatcally, every nation has a chance, remember Denmark was the underdog since they were an invitee in Euro 92 and they won it! I completlly agree that with 24 nations the tournament won't be as exciting as this one for example: Germany-Portugal, Germany-Netherlands, Portugal-Nethetlands, Spain-Italy, France-England all in the group stage... could it get any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 But look at some of the potential quarter-finals. Russia-Germany, Netherlands-Czech Republic, Greece-Portugal. Not as exciting. And its not always the marquee matches that produce good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 A Celtic bid would be interesting. Especially if it's Scotland-Wales-Northern Ireland as opposed to Ireland. Scotland would offer 3 cities, with perhaps 4 venues, Wales could offer at most 2 cities with 2 venues and Northern Ireland will offer 1 city and 1 venue. 3+2+1 = 6 cities, insufficient and 4+2+1 = 7 venues. Scotland would probably need to offer 4 cities/5 venues with Wales and Northern Ireland offering 2 cities/2 venues each for a maximum of 8 cities and 9 venues. Highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 So is still open the process? I think we might se a fourth bid perhaps... When is the final deadline? The process is this: Because UEFA received 'concrete expressions of interest' from 3 bids - Turkey, Celtic Nations, Georgia-Azerbaijan - a formal selection procedure begins amongst the 53 nations. Any of the 53 members can still bid, even if they did not do so by the 15th May deadline For example, the Netherlands who chose not to bid because they felt the Turkish bid was a nailed on certainty can now choose to submit a bid if they like rather than wait until 2024 as they'd originally announced. The actual closing date now for official bids will be sometime in April 2013, where a full and comprehensive bid document is submitted. So the Netherlands could bid and actually could have the ability to host the games with the 2x50, 3x40 and 4x30 capacity requirements. Venues could include: Amsterdam Arena 52,342 there are plans to increase this capacity to 65,000 Feyenood de Kuip 51,577 or new stadium 68,000 Either or as Feyenood are looking to move. De Kuip becomes an option for either SBV Excelsior or maybe even Sparta Rotterdam. I assume though if Feyenoord moved, the De Kuip will be demolished if there is no new tennant. Heerenveen Abe Lenstra 26,800 There are already plans to increase this to 35,000+ Eschelde de Grolsche Veste 32,000 There are plans to raise this to 44,000 Eindhoven Philips Stadion 35,000 again another stadium with plans to add another 10,000 seats Alkmaar AFAS Stadion 17,000 Already being increased to 30,000+ Groningen Euroborg 22,560 Designed to have an extra tier taking capacity to 35,000 - 40,000 seats Utrecht Stadion Galgenwaard 24,426 Four seperate stands, so temporary stands in the corners would take capacity way beyong 30,000 updated Amsterdam Olympic stadium 22,288 There were plans for 2018 to add a second tier, architecturally possible ... and could be welcome as Amsterdam is hosting the 2016 European Athletics Championships. Alternatives for an additional 30,000 seat stadium would be Roda or Breda. The Gelredome in Arnhem now 25,000 seats used in 2000 cannot be expanded. So the stadiums would be: 50,000 seats: Amsterdam, Rotterdam 40,000 seats: Eindhoven, Eschelde, Amsterdam Olympic 30,000 seats: Groningen, Utrecht, Alkmaar, Heerenveen Opening Game: Rotterdam Quarter Finals: Eindhoven, Enschelde, Amsterdam, Rotterdam Semi Finals: Rotterdam, Amsterdam Final: Amsterdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Again the Netherlands? They had the Euro just in 2000. If England doesn't bid because of 1996 and Germany doesn't bid because of 1988, why should the Dutch bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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