stark Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Munich 2018's bid had allways the problem dass it was seen as a triangle always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowboy Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 The triangle issue is considered a negative for Munich. When Quebec proposed their bid, one of the issues in addition to the hill, was a third bobsleigh track in Canada potentially underused with both Calgary and Vancouver tracks being available. Would three in a country like Canada be too many? Germany already has four tracks. So if it is impractical to build a fifth track near Garmisch or on that side of the Bavarian Alps, would it be possible to offer the facilities that Garmisch has (alpine, nordic, ski jumping) near Schonau am Kongisee? The answer is YES, and even if modifications were needed to the ski jump at Rupholding, this would be far cheaper than building a bob run at Garmisch. There is also a ski jump arena at Berchtesgaden, which the local community want to modernise/rebuld but cannot afford to .... an Olympics with corporate sponsorship would be an ideal incentive and opportunity, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Bach (the president of the DOSB) eliminated a bid of Munich for 2022 and 2026 at the moment. He said, that it is fact, that we want Olympic Games hosted by Germany, but the DOSB wants to wait for the right moment. He mentioned that the DOSB wants to await the decision about the host for 2020. Furthermore he verified that Hamburg and Berlin have interests in hosting Summer Olympics. Süddeutsche Zeitung - Bach: Olympia 2026 nicht in München SPOX - Müssen richtigen Zeitpunkt abwarten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I think that's a real shame; it suggests to me that their summer aspirations are being given priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowboy Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 The problem is if Barcelona or Oslo or St Moritz win the rights to 2022, then it will be 2030 or maybe even 2034 before Munich would like host again with North America in 2026 and maybe someone like China in 2030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 I don't think they will bid again, I think they will focus on a Summer bid. And of course there are also the issues around timing with Bach's position in the IOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Stupid Bach! All he wants is securing all possible support for HIS personal ambitions. Becoming the successor of Rogge. BTW the headline does not fit do the text. I think Munich should prepare a plan for 2022 on its own and after the election of host of the 2020 Games, it can present it to the DOSB. I prefer Winter Games in Munich over Summer Games in Hamburg or Berlin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Munich needs to bid, because they would be the odds on favourite, unless Oslo bids as well then we have a 2 horse race. (I would still give the advantage to Munich). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 A winning Munich 2022 bid will definitely be linked as the 50th anniversary of Munich hosting the 1972 Summer Olympics. I can easily expect the games logo being similar to the 1972 one, torch designed in a similar way, look of the games being similar, pictograms similar and of course the mascot would either be another dog or some animal that would compliment the 1972 dog mascot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Given the events of 1972 in Munich I'm not sure they would wish to echo those Games too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 It would be a huge mistake for Munich to sit out 2022. They built lots of good will in their last bid. The IOC would love to go to Europe in 2022 and I believe they'd get very excited about Germany. I really think Munich 2022 would be virtually unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 As much as I'd see a U.S. Winter Olympics in 2022, I think there's no doubt Munich is the odds on favorite going into the 2022 race if for no other reason the IOC could be looking to return the Games to the Alps. As for as Bach goes, I've seen it mentioned on the forums that his bid to replace Rogge could hinder any German bid, but could Bach not use the position to advance a Munich bid much like Samaranch did for Barcelona? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 The major difference is that Samaranch was already a "sitting" president for 6 years when Barcelona was bidding for the Games. Bach N Munich would virtually run simultaneous, or at the very least, back-to-back campaigns. So there is the conflict of interest, N the majority of the members most likely wouldn't be inclined towards award a single country such grand prizes so close in proximity to one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Munich must learn this: (A couple months ago Durban and Paris were planing to bid for the 2020 SOG byt were to lazy to put on a bid and decided to wait, now, the 2020 seems to be really easy for Tokyo, what should had happened if they would have bidded?) Munich, please bid! It's the only choice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Munich appears to be back in the running again for 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 What's the latest news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 What's the latest news? It was on the Gamesbids front page, that Munich were now back considering 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 It was on the Gamesbids front page, that Munich were now back considering 2022 2022 or 2026, yes. Thomas Bach has said, though, that there is no new development regarding a German Olympic bid. He said that Germany would only bid if the basic conditions are right and if the bid stood a realistic chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'd say a Munich bid would be a runaway favorite...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'd say a Munich bid would be a runaway favorite...... You'd say that. But almost all newspapers writing about a future Munich bid explain that so-called "experts" told them that Munich wouldn't stand any reasonable chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 You'd say that. But almost all newspapers writing about a future Munich bid explain that so-called "experts" told them that Munich wouldn't stand any reasonable chance. I'd be a bit concerned about who Munich's experts are then - if I get right World Class Downhill 2x World Class Ski Jumping Venues 2x World Class Ceremonies possibilities 3x Indoor arenas (I think there are two at the Olympic stadium park + where the basketball team play) World class bobsleigh run World class speed skating track in same areas as bobsleigh World class city with major international airport Did I miss anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moose Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Welcome Blacksheep! (not to be confused with the obscure far northern Norway group I have always wondered whether the spelling error is deliberate or not...) You'd say that. But almost all newspapers writing about a future Munich bid explain that so-called "experts" told them that Munich wouldn't stand any reasonable chance. Strange, and which candidate would supposedly be any stronger? I can't think of any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichfan Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Actually I'm more wondering who those experts might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 You'd say that. But almost all newspapers writing about a future Munich bid explain that so-called "experts" told them that Munich wouldn't stand any reasonable chance. I want too see Munich host, and don't think those experts know what they are talking about. If the USA presents a credible bid like Denver then maybe they have a fight, but no other city will pose a threat to Munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 So what would it be with construction of only one arena and I'm sure Munich has enough sports teams that they could use it after the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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