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Glad they got rid of that hideous thing, it was way overdone. The Japanese tend to keep things simple and the outcome of that looks real good so I'm glad they scrapped that design.

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No. It was this one that I want Japan to use...

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If Japan is trying to keep costs down I can't see them going with something like this to replace the Hadid. OK, it is simpler but that's still a complex, bespoke roof design which will take a lot of engineering to get exactly right.

As I said earlier, I would expect Japan to go for something much more standard now they've not got much time, and politically they can't now choose a design with anything but certain costings. That means standard building techniques, standard and repeatable cladding, a uniform bowl shape etc. I expect something more functional with little risk attached to emerge from this process.

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I'm glad Tokyo has made the right decision regarding the Stadium. That thing was a pricey ugly f**ker. Now, I'm a bit concerned about Tokyo. They seem a little bit confused with those Olympics. They wanted to go all wow but they realize now that they just can't. They will end up with a basic stadium, which would actually be fine.

When you compare their original bid with what the Games are likely to be...quite a change! I know the IOC doesn't give a **** about all this (or do they?), but still...

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Well here are 3 rejected concepts that should in theory cost less...

I remember the third concept was done by a french firm. Back then i thought it was innovating but i'm not sure about now.

The second concept is very nice, IMO. They should had picked that one over Zaha Hadid uglyass design.

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I'm wondering, in the new competition, are they still going to ask for retractable roof/stands?

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Glad they got rid of that hideous thing, it was way overdone. The Japanese tend to keep things simple and the outcome of that looks real good so I'm glad they scrapped that design.

Sorry I am a bit slow on this- have they officially dumped the mega ninja concrete turtle stadium!!!

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Sorry I am a bit slow on this- have they officially dumped the mega ninja concrete turtle stadium!!!

Yup. They're starting from quote "zero base".

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Great decision. Hadid is a morally bankrupt egotist whose work is usually a good fit for autocrats with deep pockets.

Looking forward to something scaled back and culturally appropriate that sets the bar for future stadiums. Tokyo should have looked to London, not Beijing, from the start. At least there is enough time, just.

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HADID'S VISION OF TOKYO'S OLYMPIC STADIUM

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Well, I sure wouldn't want my NATIONAL stadium be just funtional. Like Baron said, duh! Of course it needs to be funtional! If you're gonna tear down a peice of your history, at least replace it with something worthwhile.

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Tokyo should have looked to London, not Beijing, from the start. At least there is enough time, just.

... maybe to London and add a little common sense about legacy use?

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I wouldn't look to London- an ugly, expensive stadium, with no real legacy plan and a huge expensive rebuild to downsize.

Sydney is a better and cheaper example.

Atlanta was actually the best Legacy use example to date.

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Atlanta was actually the best Legacy use example to date.

Yes and no. It was definitely built more for the Atlanta Braves than for the Olympics so there was little waste there. The IOC was not too pleased with the athletics aspect of the stadium being stripped away after the games, but if a city's going to shell out millions of dollars for a brand new stadium, they have every damn right to do whatever they want with it after the games. They owe no one an explanation for their actions it was the smart thing to do in a city, and country, whose interest in athletic sports only comes once every four years.

Also, they're already replacing that stadium lol. The Atlanta Braves will be expected to be in their new stadium, SunTrust Park, by 2017, which is 20 years from when they moved into Turner Field from the now-demolished Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium. So yes, it'll be getting 20+ good years of use before it will probably be demolished again.

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Yes and no. It was definitely built more for the Atlanta Braves than for the Olympics so there was little waste there. The IOC was not too pleased with the athletics aspect of the stadium being stripped away after the games, but if a city's going to shell out millions of dollars for a brand new stadium, they have every damn right to do whatever they want with it after the games. They owe no one an explanation for their actions it was the smart thing to do in a city, and country, whose interest in athletic sports only comes once every four years.

Also, they're already replacing that stadium lol. The Atlanta Braves will be expected to be in their new stadium, SunTrust Park, by 2017, which is 20 years from when they moved into Turner Field from the now-demolished Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium. So yes, it'll be getting 20+ good years of use before it will probably be demolished again.

Yeah, Atlanta got 20 years' good use from it; didn't leave the citizens paying for a debt 30 years' later that the Montrealers (and Mexico City residents) were still paying for their extravaganzas.

It is about to be demolished- great legacy!

Things move very fast in the progressive South. :P Unlike Athens where things are left to rot.

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Atlanta was actually the best Legacy use example to date.

Easily beaten by the 1908 White City Stadium, I'd have thought- speedway and greyhound racing are much better after-uses for an Olympic-size stadium than football or baseball.

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