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Very wise of you. For a start, if you examine the plans carefully, it become apparent that the running tracks in both designs have inside lanes 400 metres long !

I went to Tokyo today and here are some photos.

Very happy to enter the field . Some kissed on the grass and I heard many people never knew the smell of the grass is so fresh. I'll be able to enter the New stadium in 2019 if I apply by the

I've been thinking, does anyone know how exactly the roof will work? Given the images, it seems like two separate pieces of roof cover will come from each side of the stadium's opening, but will they overlap or just kind of leave a tiny crease in the middle? Will it allow a lot of light in like the material on the rest of the stadium or block out almost all sunlight?

I'm just worried that we might face another Montreal where the roof kind of works but not really.

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I'm just worried that we might face another Montreal where the roof kind of works but not really.

Well that was over 40 years ago when they started building that stadium, and architecture and technology has advanced since then and considering the crazy stuff the Japanese have done (like built an airport on a man-made island) I think they can manage not to screw up a stadium.

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I remember reading somewhere that one of the main reasons they're demolishing not refurbishing is that it's not up to regulation anymore or something.

Uhmmm...remember Tokyo is in an active earthquake zone. So I think if only from the construction standards of 50 years ago for being earthquake-resistance-compliant, it is far more expedient to just tear down the old structure and build a newer, safer one, notwithstanding that UGLY design of Hadid. I really hope the Japanese hate it -- after all, they chose it.

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I had a feeling this name Zaha Hadid was familiar to me, and a quick google search certainly reminded me why. She's the one who designed the vagina stadium for the 2022 world cup in Qatar.

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Zaha Hadid says Tokyo stadium criticism

is "embarrassing" for Japanese architects

News: Zaha Hadid has hit back at the Japanese architects criticising her Tokyo 2020 Olympic stadium design, describing them as "hypocrites".

"I think it's embarrassing for them, that's all I can say," Hadid told Dezeen. "I understand it's their town. But they're hypocrites."

London-based architect Hadid was selected to design the 80,000-seat Japan National Stadium in 2012, following a restricted-entry international competition judged by a panel that included Japanese architect Tadao Ando.

In October last year, Pritzker Prize-winning architect Fumihiko Maki organised a symposium for Japanese designers including Toyo Ito and Kengo Kuma to protest against the size of the design in relation to its surroundings in Yoyogi Park – alongside Kenzo Tange's iconic 1964 Olympic stadium.

Fresh criticism has since come from Arata Isozaki, who said the stadium will be "a disgrace to future generations" last month following a redesign of the scheme.

"They don't want a foreigner to build in Tokyo for a national stadium," said Hadid, who also designed the Aquatics Centre for the 2012 games in London. "On the other hand, they all have work abroad. Whether it's Sejima, Toyo Ito, or Maki or Isozaki or Kengo Kuma."

Zaha-Hadid-modified-Tokyo-olympic-stadiuZaha Hadid's modified Tokyo Olympic stadium design

A number of Japanese architects were among the 11 finalists in the competition to design the stadium, including Toyo Ito, SANAA with Nikken Sekkei, Azusa Sekkei, and Mitsuru Man Senda and Environment Design Institute.

"The fact that they lost is their problem, they lost the competition," said Hadid. "If they are against the idea of doing a stadium on that site, I don't think they should have entered the competition."

Speaking to Dezeen at the ground-breaking of her 1000 Museum skyscraper in Miami on Friday, Hadid said that she was saddened by the comments from her fellow professionals.

"Many of them were friends of mine, actually the ones which I supported before like Toyo Ito, who I worked with on a project in London. I've known him for a long time."

"It saddens me," said Hadid. "What can I do? They're going ahead with it irrespective. So..."

dezeen_Japan-National-Stadium-Zaha-HadidHadid's original Japan National Stadium design

The stadium is set to become the main venue for Tokyo's successful 2020 Olympic and Paralympic games bid, and is due for completion in 2019, when it is scheduled to host games during the Rugby World Cup.

Zaha Hadid Architects confirmed that the design had been revised following budget changes and the ongoing criticism – including a 500-person street protest – in July.

Hadid has also designed a stadium for the controversial Qatar 2022 FIFA World Cup. The architect dismissed comparisons of the design to a vagina as "ridiculous", and filed a lawsuit against the writer of a book review that claimed Hadid showed a lack of concern for worker conditions on the project.

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http://www.dezeen.com/2014/12/08/zaha-hadid-tokyo-2020-olympic-stadium-criticism-japanese-architects/

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That duckbill part I find so unnecessary, what is it supposed to contain?

I think those will be the two main arches/trusses which will support everything on the roof and all the technical stuff that will hang from the rafters. Remember, this new stadium will have to be built to state-of-the-art earthquake-proofing standards.

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Demolition of the old stadium will start in the middle of December, delayed by more than two months from the initial schedule.

Does anyone know if this has begun or anything? I haven't seen or heard anything online about demolition yet, so I'm just assuming it's happening.

Just kidding. I found an article published at like 5pm ish Japan time about this.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/12/30/national/national-stadium-demolition-trouble-getting-ground/#.VKMq5ivF98E

So since the first bidding for the demolition had contracts that were too expensive and the second one seems to have been rigged, they had to do it a third time to get two contractors for the project. I'm hoping this doesn't hinder anything with the construction of the stadium later on, but the Japanese are good at doing things on time no matter what.

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Does anyone know if this has begun or anything? I haven't seen or heard anything online about demolition yet, so I'm just assuming it's happening.

Demolition for the south part is going to start in the mid of Jan,2015,according to Nikkei web news.

http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLASDG15H6V_V11C14A2000000/

(Source in Japanese so use translator or ask your dad to translate them ;) .)

For the north part,not yet.

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I was lucky enough to find some more detailed and i guess more realistic looking renders on this NY Times article and, this is just me but, I think it looks great.

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Unfortunately www.zaha-hadid.com is down for some reason so I can't go check for more there.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/05/arts/design/olympic-stadium-in-tokyo-is-dogged-by-controversy.html#

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And according to this article I found and got translated by papa, they're starting the deconstruction for real (hopefully) in the end of February, ending in September of this year. That from the initial period of July 2014 to October 2015 is much shorter but they have the experience to get it done.

http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLASDG07HBC_X00C15A1000000/

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Also I just have an epifany about where they can put the cauldron. I was looking at that article and in the slideshow they had old renders from the very beginning...

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As you can see the walkway thing or "sky path" as they're calling it, is clearly visible there. Well, from that angle but whatever

Sooooooo on the newest render I circled that same spot and I can see it being there or attached to that thing or something because given that the stadium is pretty much covered up and they don't want a melty stadium like vancouver had to work out, they can just put it outside but still visible to everybody during the ceremony (coughbeijingcough)

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Crap i forgot to auto correct "epifany" its freakin epiphany jfk

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It is always sad to see the departure of iconic buildings. The first stadium to host an Olympics in Asia is being destroyed.

No; it's "morphing" into a more suitable venue.

(BTW, last night on AMAZING RACE, they had some of the contestants skate 2 rounds at the long-track speedskating venue at Nagano.

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No; it's "morphing" into a more suitable venue.

(BTW, last night on AMAZING RACE, they had some of the contestants skate 2 rounds at the long-track speedskating venue at Nagano.

New season of Amazing race started already??? Damn must go watch it!

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It's a shame that the US doesn't put this much effort into designing more attractive looking stadiums. The majority of NFL stadiums look so fugly! At least the new Vikings stadium will set a new trend in having more attractive looking stadiums instead of just having the bare minimum.

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I think that was one of the main reason why I liked Farmers Field so much. It was refreshing to see such a beautiful stadium unlike the cookie-cutter ones found almost everywhere.


It's so strange since America prioritizes sports very high, but they can't seem to get iconic and unique stadium to house the players and fans.

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