intoronto 650 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 If this is true then it only comes from one person and there is no even proof for that so for me it is only blah blah... I suppose his subjective opinion is not worthier than the positive feedback given by the head of AIBA. Plus AIBA in general has never officially announced anything negative about the tournament in Baku. Baku is in fifth it is a fact, and that 2011 WC did not help its cause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando223 0 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 80% of installations completed, end of terrorism, new anti-dopingagency, third and fourth followed by participation in history,beautiful weather, Olympic passion, economy?, Okay, but here at7 years has to improve security, trust in Madrid 80% of installations completed, end of terrorism, new anti-doping agency, third and fourth followed by participation in history,beautiful weather, Olympic passion, economy?, Okay, but here at 7 years has to improve security, trust in Madrid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galandar 40 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Baku is in fifth it is a fact, and that 2011 WC did not help its cause. What did you want to say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 What did you want to say? ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando223 0 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Go bug I am taking these 2 first days, excuse me, already is how the Forum will Edition hahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deawebo 77 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 The situation is really clear as the pool indicates! Tokyo is the frontrunner! Follwed by Madrid and Istanbul, Rome it depoends if they bid or the don't... Doha and Baku i don't think so :S but remember Tokyo always makes a strong start... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emre 92 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 tokyo istanbul in terms but for now doha and baku seems leading the race with aggresive pr no way madrid with that logo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
munichfan 38 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well, compared to Tokyo's logo Madrid's one is much better in my opinion... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deawebo 77 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I think the flip flops and the hawaiian necklace, (Madrid and Tokyo) both suck i prefer Baku's one... Hope Doha or Rome make a better one, i don't have too much expectations with Istanbul, it will be a lot like their past ones... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stark 12 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 So dissapointed with Rome doubting in wether bid or not, it is my favorite city in this process. But the truth is maybe Istanbul will be the front runner, Tokyo too soon for Asia since 2018, Madrid and Rome crisis, Doha the bribery scandal, Baku "a well keeped secret". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale86 47 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I must admit Baku seems to be sounding the right notes. I am liking their professionalism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 It would be foolish to discount Tokyo merely bcuz of PyeongChang 2018. Those R Winter Games anyway. The IOC has come close twice before on awarding Asia back-to-back Asian winter/summer Games. So obviously they R not totally opposed against such an Olympic scenario. And if Rome does indeed drop out, then that could just reinforce Tokyo's stance in the race, since Italy N other European countries will want to take aim at 2024. Istanbul is still a question mark at this point. But perhaps their mini bid book will shine more light into their potential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympic Fan Darcy 321 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 why is baku ahead of doha? they have less sporting expirience then doha, doha has had asian games and will have fifa at least... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galandar 40 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 why is baku ahead of doha? they have less sporting expirience then doha, doha has had asian games and will have fifa at least... Ahead or behind, I can only show you with some facts instead of subjective opinion. Azerbaijan took part in several Olympic games with delegation of some 40 athletes (lately 44 in Beijing 2008) and won a number of good medals of all categories (lately 1 gold, 3 sylver and 3 bronze in Beijing 2008). We plan some 50 athletes to London 2012 (currently we have 29 licenses in 13 kinds of sports). The fact Azerbaijan hosted fewer sport events is that the country has a shorter independence period though when it had its first democratic republic in 1918-1920 no other country with predominantly muslim population had anything close prior to that time. And even though, Azerbaijan hosted several world and european championships in rhytmic gymnastics, wrestling, boxing, taekwondo and different kind og gran-prix and tournaments in tennis, voleyball etc. Maybe for some of you that is not much but this year Baku is hosting Eurovision Song Contest 2012, most of the games and the final of FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup and Final Four of CEV Champions League. Azerbaijan pays much attention to sports. First, the country is constructing and renovating smaller-size sport venues and sport schools all over the country. Then it improves the sport infrastructure by a realization of a number of the ladnmark type of sport venues such as Olympic-size Stadium, Indoor Arena, Gymnastics Arena, Aquatics Complex etc. In conclusion I could agree that despite to the fact Baku 2020 bid is much better than of 2016, it still lacks some points. But those obstacles are temporary and with every new bid the city gonna be stronger and stronger. For now the minimum aim is to be shortlisted, for future definitely to host the Olympic Games. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galandar 40 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 why is baku ahead of doha? they have less sporting expirience then doha, doha has had asian games and will have fifa at least... p.s. I am the only Azerbaijani here and I gave my vote to Istanbul this is just fyi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olympic Fan Darcy 321 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 p.s. I am the only Azerbaijani here and I gave my vote to Istanbul this is just fyi i accept and understand, its very reasonable and makes alot of sense, baku has flaws and so does doha, doha does have a small population and doesnt have alot of athletes and pasting medals so yeah i dont know whos winning, its so confusing!!! haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deawebo 77 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Doha's technical better and in past events experience, but in terms of sport culture, climate and a legacy Baku's winning over Doha in that sense... Intresting the 2020 race, even the underdogs are in a tight competition Quote Link to post Share on other sites
munichfan 38 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Yeah, it's a really interesting race. There is not one city without any riscs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galandar 40 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Yeah, it's a really interesting race. There is not one city without any riscs... What about Istanbul? I thought it is beyond the rest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
munichfan 38 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 What about the critical relationship to Israel or those long ways between the venues? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galandar 40 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 What about the critical relationship to Israel or those long ways between the venues? Critical relations to Israel? Well in this case many countries have no right to host any championships or even Olympics since many have bad relations with each other. Important is to guarantee security for the team of a country you are in bad relations which I am sure Turkey is going to give to Israel.Then I see no problem. As for long distance between venues. Do you mean the venues of Madrid or Rome or Tokyo are built nearby? I am sure there is the same problem in all the big cities and from the ones I named especially in Tokyo. If one city needs everything to be located in one district then it should built most of the things from zero for making it a perfect Olympic village (the way Sochi 2014 does it now) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
munichfan 38 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Remember Madrid 2016! It was one of the most compact venue plans ever. We don't know much about Tokyo 2020 yet, but yeah, Rome will have the same problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rafa 43 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Tokyo as a favourite? I just don't get why you would say that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Tokyo as a favourite? I just don't get why you would say that. Because Rome Madrid have economic issues, Istanbul I believe had a spread out venue plan and the other two are non-factors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I think it's anybody's game besides Baku and Doha. It's obvious why the majority are saying Tokyo is the favourite considering the economic hardships with Italy and Spain. I believe Istanbul is the darkhorse and definitely could surprise. We're just gonna have to wait and see how their bid develops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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