gotosy Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 the draw of lots was done and the official order are: Istanbul - Tokyo - Rome - Baku - Doha - Madrid ...drawing of lots to determine the official order of the cities bidding for the 2020 Olympic Games saw Istanbul (Turkey) being drawn first, followed by Tokyo (Japan), Rome (Italy), Baku (Azerbaijan), Doha (Qatar) and Madrid (Spain).This order will now be used for all presentations, including the final one on 7 September 2013 just prior to the host city election at the IOC Session in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The next step for the six Applicant Cities will be to submit their Application Files and guarantee letters to the IOC by 15 February 2012. IOC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Bad luck for Istanbul, usually the last or second last bid to present remains fresh on the minds of people. Didn't Korea present first though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Bad luck for Istanbul, usually the last or second last bid to present remains fresh on the minds of people. Didn't Korea present first though? Really bad luck, when the member vote they will have Madrid's presentacion really fresh, and forget a bit of Istanbul's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Bad luck for Istanbul, usually the last or second last bid to present remains fresh on the minds of people. Didn't Korea present first though? Yeah, but that was only 3. And you knew Annency was a joke. But yeah, that's a tough break for Istanbul. I don't KNOW why they do it so early. Why don't they just with the alpha order; and then when a few days before selection time, do the random order -- not this early? They're really quite dumb at the IOC sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympian Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Bad luck for Istanbul, usually the last or second last bid to present remains fresh on the minds of people. Didn't Korea present first though? PC presented third. Vancouver and Sochi presented firstHere are some of the past order of presentation Presentation Order Of 2016 Cities Madrid once again drew last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangwon Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Bad luck for Istanbul, usually the last or second last bid to present remains fresh on the minds of people. Didn't Korea present first though? It was: 2003 - Vancouver, Salzburg, Pyeongchang 2007 - Sochi, Salzburg, Pyeongchang 2011 - Munich, Annecy, Pyeongchang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Yeah, but that was only 3. And you knew Annency was a joke. But yeah, that's a tough break for Istanbul. I don't KNOW why they do it so early. Why don't they just with the alpha order; and then when a few days before selection time, do the random order -- not this early? They're really quite dumb at the IOC sometimes. As you said they were only 3 and now 6 (its pretty likely the IOC accepts the 6).... Voters will start to forget what Istanbul presented. 45*6= 270 minutes :S and it was REALY early it would have been better at least in June when candidates are named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 lucky for doha, following baku, haha i joke i joke, we never know if baku will be good or not starting off with the 3 best and then it just goes kind of downhill istanbul and tokyo will be good, i dont know about madrid or rome and then doha and baku i am absolutly stumped whether they will be bad or kind of good im really tired i dont know if anything i just said makes any sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Doesn't it make sense to do this until AFTER the short-list? Y do it before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 The IOC uses this for the short-list report as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I have to agree with FYI there. Besides, there's the semi-big decision in Quebec City on May about short-listing the cities down, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympian Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 anyone remember the presentation order for the 1996 vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattperiolat Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Bad luck for Istanbul, usually the last or second last bid to present remains fresh on the minds of people. Didn't Korea present first though? PC went last, Munich went first in the last OWG vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangwon Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 As you said they were only 3 and now 6 (its pretty likely the IOC accepts the 6).... Voters will start to forget what Istanbul presented. 45*6= 270 minutes :S and it was REALY early it would have been better at least in June when candidates are named. There's also the other side of the coin, where IOC voters are most attentive for the first presentation, and by the last time their attention span has gone to mush that they don't care about listening to yet ANOTHER Q+A session with Prince Albert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 The most recent summer Games winning bids had been drawn second last. If it's not eliminated, I guess Doha has the lucky spot Good Madrid being last (again!) and far from the strongest opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I don't believe that more than one or two voters are undecided by the time the final presentations roll around. Frankly, I just think the presentations are window dressing. Even if it's a super close race, it's the lobbying that will win it -- not the presentations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 being first has some adv. tough... all other candidates will compare with the first one. altough being last is the luckiest drawn but if IOC will make a shorlist will it chnge too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 anyone remember the presentation order for the 1996 vote? Atlanta, Athens, Toronto, Belgrade, Melbourne and Manchester Agenda of the 96th IOC Session, page 3 http://www.la84foundation.org/OlympicInformationCenter/OlympicReview/1990/ore275/ore275f.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 That's true maybe the luckiest one is Doha , in the 2016 election, the first voting round was exactly the order of the presentations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 If Doha wins I'll give up on the Olympics. Ok.... Maybe not. But I will be PISSED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 If Doha wins I'll give up on the Olympics. Ok.... Maybe not. But I will be PISSED. No i dont think Doha wins, but is gonna go far... Maybe as the 2nd runner up. cough *bribery* cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 If Doha wins I'll give up on the Olympics. Ok.... Maybe not. But I will be PISSED. if doha wins, im sure madrid istanbul rome and tokyo wont bid ever again for the olympics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Sometimes i laugh, almost no body wants to see Doha winning, me too. Istanbul would not care, they will bid again, again, or maybe Turkey will focus on a WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympian Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 being first has some adv. tough... all other candidates will compare with the first one. altough being last is the luckiest drawn but if IOC will make a shorlist will it chnge too? the order will be adjusted. say baku and doha is not shortlisted. the order becomes, istanbul, tokyo, rome, madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 the order will be adjusted. say baku and doha is not shortlisted. the order becomes, istanbul, tokyo, rome, madrid Doha is gonna be shortlisted, they are gonna score more than 6.9... And if the IOC accepted their dates, they will shortlist them... Politics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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