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The IFs don't really have any course if the venue is relocated. It's not like they'd say we're pulling our event from the Olympics (rowing isn't like football or basketball. It needs the Olympics). The only thing I could think of is perhaps a ban on competition from the Japanese rowing teams (probably not at the Olympics but at other events such as the world championships).

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This seems like more of a political move from Koike. She wants to show the people she's willing to take drastic measures to lower costs, but it's unlikely much will  change to the plan at this point.

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The main reason Tokyo 2020 is wanting to shift Rowing out 400 km away is that Japan is NOT a factor at Rowing, Kayaking or Canoeing events.  Thus, they are going to make it difficult for the gaijin crowds to go and enjoy the sport that they won't be taking any medals at.  

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2020 Olympic organisers resist moving rowing venue to 250 miles from Tokyo

 

Organisers want the rowing venue for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics to remain at its original location rather than be moved to a site hundreds of miles away.

Tokyo’s governor, Yuriko Koike, ordered a review of venues and costs by a panel of independent experts. The panel proposed moving the rowing venue from a site on Tokyo Bay to an existing facility in Miyagi prefecture, about 250 miles north of Tokyo.

But Tokyo organisers spelled out their objections to that proposal on Wednesday, arguing the venue should remain at the Sea Forest Waterway.

“I would like to stress once again that the decision was made unanimously and based on thorough investigations. We have conducted careful examinations of all candidate rowing sites,” said Toshiaki Endo, a Tokyo 2020 executive board member.

“As a result, all parties including the IOC [International Olympic Committee], the international federations, the national federations, Tokyo 2020 organising committee and the Tokyo metropolitan government came to the conclusion that Sea Forest Waterway was the most promising and best suited for the hosting of rowing competitions.”

In a visit to Tokyo last week, Jean-Christophe Rolland, the head of Fisa, the international rowing federation, expressed his disappointment at the proposed move and said the venue should remain at its original location.

Tokyo organisers listed several objections to the facility in Miyagi, including lack of infrastructure, accommodation for spectators and inconvenience for athletes.

Organisers also said the final construction cost for the Sea Forest Waterway will likely be lower than original estimates.

Already, venues for basketball, taekwondo and cycling have been moved outside Tokyo to maximise existing facilities. Cycling was moved to Izu, about 90 miles southwest of the capital.

Tokyo won the right to host the games in 2013 by promising a compact Games with 28 of the 31 competition venues within a five-mile radius of the Olympic Village. Originally, only shooting, modern pentathlon and one football venue were to be outside the radius.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/12/olympics-2020-tokyo-rowing-ioc

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What?  I thought the rowing races were only 500m, 1000m, 1500m and 2,000m.  So the Japs were going to have the rowers row 250mi from Tokyo? :blink:   WOW!!  That would've been what?  16 hour races!!  

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Isn't it an option to use the rowing/canoeing venues of 1964? From what I can see in Google Maps they're quite close to Tokyo. The rowing course looks a bit built-up by now, but the lake where they held canoeing back then looks OK.

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4 hours ago, rubio said:

Isn't it an option to use the rowing/canoeing venues of 1964? From what I can see in Google Maps they're quite close to Tokyo. The rowing course looks a bit built-up by now, but the lake where they held canoeing back then looks OK.

 

The Toda course is too narrow; and there may not be enough open land around it to allow for expansion and all the infrastructure needed.  Probably easier and more expedient to just create a new course as they will seem to be doing with Sea Forest.  

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IOC may move some Tokyo 2020 Olympic events to South Korea

 

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Kyodo News and the Asahi Shimbun on Tuesday cited unnamed sources as saying that the events could be held in the South Korean city of Chungju – one of the venues for the 2014 Asian Games – if organisers and Tokyo’s governor, Yuriko Koike, fail to agree on a site in Japan.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/18/ioc-move-events-tokyo-2020-olympics-south-korea

 

 

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1 hour ago, gotosy said:

IOC may move some Tokyo 2020 Olympic events to South Korea

Is this for real?

 

Because if this is real, it's a very clever and ballsy way to strike at their pride and compel them to stick to the original plan.

There will be no events held anywhere other than Japan.

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3 hours ago, Faiyez said:

Is this for real?

No. There is zero chance Japan will allow an event to be hosted in South Korea. This is just as dumb as suggesting South Korea move sledding to Japan for the '18 games. 

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I'm pretty sure the IOC and the IF don't want to go to Miyagi, so they're saying either Tokyo or Korea so that Koike will have no choice but to keep the event in the Bay.

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IOC President meets Japanese Prime Minister Abe – discusses Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 preparations and moving some events to disaster-affected area

 

 

Meeting at the official residence of the Japanese Prime Minister in Tokyo, Shinzo Abe and International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Thomas Bach discussed the proposal of the IOC to stage some events of the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 in the area affected by the 2011 tsunami, to the north of Tokyo. President Bach said it would "contribute to the regeneration of that area and send a message of confidence and hope to the people there, as well as showing to the world by 2020 how this regeneration is making progress."


Prime Minister Abe said he strongly welcomed “the idea of offering some sports and events to the devastated areas to help with reconstruction.”   
 
The proposal will now be discussed further by the IOC Executive Board and the Tokyo 2020 Organising Committee to bring forward a concrete proposal.
 
In addition, Prime Minister Abe welcomed the agreement between the IOC and the Governor of Tokyo to set up a four-party working group to look into cost savings for the Games. He agreed to the participation of the Japanese Government in the working group.
 
The two leaders also discussed anti-doping reform plans to make the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 “as clean as possible”.
 
President Bach outlined important proposals about the reform of the anti-doping system to make the fight against doping more efficient and to establish a more robust system, while making the system more independent from sports organisations and from national interests.
 
The Prime Minister said: “the Japanese Government is convinced that anti-doping is very important, and I support the IOC in its proposals.”

Finally, President Bach congratulated Japan on the best ever result of a Japanese team at the Olympic Games, with the team winning the most number of medals ever – a tally of 41 in total.

https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-president-meets-japanese-prime-minister-abe-discusses-olympic-games-tokyo-2020-preparations-and-moving-some-events-to-disaster-affected-area

 

 

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Updated FISA statement regarding Olympic Games planning in Tokyo

20 October 2016

 

The World Rowing Federation, FISA, has noted that International Olympic Committee, IOC, President Thomas Bach met yesterday with Yuriko Koike, the Governor of Tokyo, and discussed Tokyo’s continuing commitment to stage an outstanding and sustainable Olympic Games in 2020. 

FISA fully supports the IOC proposal for a four party working group review process, which was agreed between Governor Koike and IOC President Bach, with a key focus on finding additional efficiencies while keeping a focus on sport, athletes and maximized benefits for the people of Tokyo.

FISA understands that, at a later stage, specific venues savings will be looked at with the International Sports Federations involved in the process. FISA will provide its full support and experience to this review process.

FISA remains of the view that the Sea Forest Water Sports Centre is the only venue in Japan which can meet the requirements for an Olympic Games regatta. FISA understands that the Sea Forest Water Sports Centre is being designed to serve as a water sports training and recreation area, which will increase the connection of the citizens of Tokyo with the bay.

FISA has not been involved in any discussions that might consider other venues outside of Japan.

FISA therefore looks forward to continuing to find financial savings and operational efficiencies for Sea Forest while ensuring a world class field of play for Tokyo 2020. It equally looks forward to helping to provide a sustainable and significant legacy for the people of Tokyo from this venue.

http://www.worldrowing.com/news/updated-fisa-statement-regarding-olympic-games-planning-tokyo-126204

 

 

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On ‎10‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 2:24 AM, phandrosis said:

I'm pretty sure the IOC and the IF don't want to go to Miyagi, so they're saying either Tokyo or Korea so that Koike will have no choice but to keep the event in the Bay.

If Koike says the budget is going to be trimmed and rowing and sprint canoe will be moved, there's little the IOC can do about it. Interesting that Bach is trying another tactic claiming it's a political ploy. The events aren't going to be moved to Korea. The outrange from FISA would be even worse than moving the events to Miyagi. I predict that eventually the rowing and sprint canoe events get moved and there'll be grumbling from the federations and the IOC but there's nothing either can do to compel Koike to do otherwise.

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On 10/20/2016 at 10:18 AM, stryker said:

If Koike says the budget is going to be trimmed and rowing and sprint canoe will be moved, there's little the IOC can do about it. Interesting that Bach is trying another tactic claiming it's a political ploy. The events aren't going to be moved to Korea. The outrange from FISA would be even worse than moving the events to Miyagi. I predict that eventually the rowing and sprint canoe events get moved and there'll be grumbling from the federations and the IOC but there's nothing either can do to compel Koike to do otherwise.

 

What is Tokyo building the course with, gold-plated backhoes?  What is so expensive about  building a 2200m basin, with some flat land at both ends, 2 service roads, and temp stands for 10,000 spectators at one end?  The events are held in the day, so NO NEED for night lighting.   :rolleyes:

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They are building a whole precinct and frankly this seems like a stalling tactic - the organisers can then claim there isn't time left to fulfill the bid plan.

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FINA Pushes For New Tokyo 2020 Aquatic Venue Despite Cost Concerns

 

INA Executive Director Cornel Marculescu met with Tokyo governor Yuriko Koike and Japan Swimming Federation President Tsuyoshi Aoki in Japan this week, where the subject of the Tokyo 2020 Olympic swimming venue was discussed. As previously reported, although Tokyo 2020 organizers originally envisioned a newly constructed aquatics center built specifically for the Olympic Games, those plans are now be revisited in light of ballooning costs.

To help mitigate the rising expenses across venues of all sports, a Tokyo committee is suggesting that the Olympic aquatic events be held in the existing Tokyo Tatsumi International Swimming Center. Scrapping plans for a new facility that carries an estimated price tag of ¥68.3 billion (~$655M) would certainly be welcomed by those trying to rising costs that burden an Olympic host. (Japan Times)

However, Marculescu insists that a new aquatic venue is necessary not only for the competition of the Olympic Games, but for a post-2020 legacy. FINA is requesting that Tokyo organizers remain committed to the original plan of constructing an entirely new facility instead of using the Tatsumi International Swimming Center, the site of this week’s World Cup and the proposed venue for Olympic water polo events in 2020.

Governor Koike said that all factors are being considered currently regarding a new versus old venue. “We are trying to determine whether all this, including the operating cost, will serve its purpose after the games are over,” she said. (JT)

“Japanese citizens love the sport of swimming, and we want to welcome swimmers from around the world cordially. For that we’ll do all we can.”

 

https://swimswam.com/fina-pushes-new-tokyo-2020-aquatic-venue-despite-cost-concerns/

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