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, but look at Sochi. Corruption, Putin, Terrorists, Anti-Gay Laws, am I missing anything?

The IOC doesn't care about corruption, Putin, anti-gay laws, etc. Nor do they care about terrorists that aren't in Sochi.

You expect the IOC to care abot Olligarchy? Corruption? Heck, that's who they are.

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Like what Baron said, the games were bound to come to Russia sooner or later. And it did. After 2 failed bid attempts (where Sochi never made it to become a candidate/or selected by the NOC) it wowed the IOC with a revised bid plan in it's Candidate books (where in the Applicant books it was offering everything it had), it prevailed against 2 bids from consecutive bidding cities/nations which had the time to refine their bid from the previous attempt. It was the unique Olympic Park approach which gave it to Sochi in the end.

They got it because of Putin, not because of some fancy plan for an Olympic Park.

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They got it because of Putin, not because of some fancy plan for an Olympic Park.

And that is why Russia got the World Cup 2018. Corrupt money giving. My England should of won.

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Here in London, England we don't have grade 5 and all that. We have Primary and Secondary School. In 2007, I was 10 so I was in Primary School Year 5, and since I was 4, I have been following Bid Processes. Earliest one for me was 2002 Winter Olympics.

You weren't alive for the 2002 bid process.

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You weren't alive for the 2002 bid process.

I don't know if you can count, but if I was born in 1997, then I was 5 in 2002. So being 5 years old, I was alive.

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I don't know if you can count, but if I was born in 1997, then I was 5 in 2002. So being 5 years old, I was alive.

Wouldn't the bid process been in 1995, 7 years before?

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Wouldn't the bid process been in 1995, 7 years before?

My Apoligies. I forgot lol. What I meant was the earliest games I remember is 2002 Winter Olympics. The Earliest Bid Process I Remember is the Final Phase of Beijing 2008 Bid Process.

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My Apoligies. I forgot lol. What I meant was the earliest games I remember is 2002 Winter Olympics. The Earliest Bid Process I Remember is the Final Phase of Beijing 2008 Bid Process.

I don't remember what I ate for breakfast. How can you remember something from when your were five.

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They got it because of Putin, not because of some fancy plan for an Olympic Park.

But it played a big part. It hadn't been done before. If Medvedev were in power instead of Putin, I think the same result would have happened.

I still think the unique opportunity of hosting the ice sports in their own dedicated Olympic Park was what gave a rather weak Sochi bid the edge against PyeongChang and Salzburg. No amount of last minute lobbying could have worked if they stuck with their Applicant bid plan. The simple fact that they modified it during the candidate phase is what gave Sochi a huge edge. Putin could have easily not been there in the last minute lobbying in English and French and they still would have won based on their Olympic Park concept.

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The IOC might be paying for the ease in which they were seemingly dazzled by the Sochi bid, by alienating many potential OWG hosts, ie/ Munich.


I was listening to Australia's chief de mission on the radio yesterday and he had no bloody idea "Russia is great, all the venues are new, this is how the Winter Olympics should be. The perfect Olympics!" Interesting to see how even people within the thick of the Olympic movement can't fully grasp the bigger picture.

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Oh my, this perfectly illustrates why many people in Munich voted NO: they don't want anything to do with an IOC so obviously living in its own bubble and trying to get its way like a 3 year old spoiled brat.

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I'm glad that, even with the Cold War over (if it really ended at all) both America and Russia still poke fun to each other with magazine covers like these :lol:

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Russia cannot really afford to put dozens of billions USD into a glittery show lasting a couple of weeks in a remote corner of the country.

The money would have been much better invested in infrastructure projects a lot more people could benefit from.

But of course it was the Czar's will to put on the show, no matter what it costs and what will happen there once the circus is over.

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The Olympics are merely a vanity project, & nothing more. It's an international event that most nations want simply for the sake of bragging rights, & they're not really thinking how it's gonna benefit the citizens. I'm sure Beijjng 2008 didn't benefit all 1.3 Billion Chinese. And Rio 2016 isn't going to benefit all 200 million Brazilians, either. If we're going to gauge the Olympics in that respect, then no nation can really afford to host this mega-expensive party, cuz in the end, that's really all it is.

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I don't know if you can count, but if I was born in 1997, then I was 5 in 2002. So being 5 years old, I was alive.

You couldn't have followed the bid process as you said because the final vote took place June16, 1995. You were not alive.

Apparently this point was already made. Apologies for redundancy.

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You couldn't have followed the bid process as you said because the final vote took place June16, 1995. You were not alive.

Apparently this point was already made. Apologies for redundancy.

I know. Basically, what I meant to say was my First Games I remember were 2002 Winter Olympics, I was 5, and yes, I followed the Olympics back then, just not the political side of it because I was a toddler. My First Bid Process was the last phase of Beijing 2008 because I was 4 in 2001. I can remember back from when I was 3 and a half years old believe it or not.

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Well, yeah, but in case of Sochi the difference between the vanity project (of Putin himself, given that it's his fave resort etc) and the situation in the rest of the country is especially striking.

I'm not saying they could have spent 50 billion on something all Russians could have benefitted from, but e.g. some major road/train links between the country's big cities could have just as much helped Putin's prestige at least at home AND helped the people there a great deal more than building venues for Winter sports that will probably not be much in use afterwards in a subtropic provincial town.

And for international vanity, he still has WC 2018, the stadia of which will probably much more frequently used than the Sochi ones.

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I would love to see a three year old heavily interested in an Olympic bidding process

Well, the three year old I have at home doesn't even know what the Olympics are - I dare say he's more representative of his age group than Tony was at that point ;-)

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