Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Back to topic anyway, as much as Putin is Homophobic, I think that away from the Political side and on to the Sport side, Sochi 2014 will be a good Games. It probably doesn't look that way now, due to the bad build up news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Putin in denial - http://www.insidethegames.biz/olympics/winter-olympics/2014/1017923-russian-president-putin-denies-large-scale-corruption-in-sochi-2014-preparations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 *LOL* As if Putin as the chief honcho of the awarding of the Winter Games to Sochi and of getting things done during the Games' preparations would ever admit that he has been the head of or only the reason for large-scale corruption. Putin really is a caricature of a head of state. A dangerously powerful caricature, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Putin really is a caricature of a head of state. A dangerously powerful caricature, though. Yea, that's the real problem. He isn't just some idiot tyrant in a meaningless country like Kim Jong Il's fat son. This guy has a lot of power, and I think Sochi will be a turning point where the western world realizes just how dangerous he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Yea, that's the real problem. He isn't just some idiot tyrant in a meaningless country like Kim Jong Il's fat son. This guy has a lot of power, and I think Sochi will be a turning point where the western world realizes just how dangerous he really is. Wouldn't call a country with nukes meaningless, but I agree that it's now the time the mask has fallen and the western world is getting highly critical of Putin, not only because of Sochi, but since that's his personal baby, it's just more obvious there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 How will Putin be recieved at the OC? Are Russians brainwashed enough that they will give a massive ovation, or will international members of the crowd boo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I guess the ovations will drown out some isolated booing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Putin received massive applause at the start of the torch relay in Moscow, and I expect the same (or even more) in his more-or-less-hometown Sochi. He was the man who brought the Games to Sochi, and in the audience, there won't be those poor citizens of the hosting region who were ignored or even got disadvantaged during the construction of the venues, roads etc., but mostly the rich haute-volee of the city, people who got wealthier and maybe even more powerful under Putin. They will be very grateful to him for making their city even more glitzy and the centre of global attention (at least for a few weeks this winter). Additionally, who as an international audience member would dare to boo the host nation's head of state, while he is surrounded by the aforementioned "FOP"s (Friends of Putin)? No, he will get a warm reception, probably even an enthusiastic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 We may not like their government (unless you're an extreme religious conservative or a Tea Party supporter), but just remember the average Russian is as proud of their nationality and culture, and will be caught up in the euphoria of their time in the spotlight, as we Aussies, or Brits, or Canadians or, yes, Chinese, were proud of and as uplifted by our time in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 By the way, have you read also the second half of the new Insidethegames article? Meanwhile, Putin has defended Russia's anti-gay propaganda law, insisting that he is not prejudiced against homosexuals and even has gay acquaintances himself.He also moved to reassure people that "individuals of this non-traditional sexual orientation" visiting or competing at Sochi 2014 would not face discrimination and even spoke of his respect for gay celebrities like British singer Elton John. "We have recently passed a law prohibiting propaganda, and not of homosexuality only, but of homosexuality and child abuse, child sexual abuse," he told the BBC."But this is nothing to do with persecuting individuals for their sexual orientation."There's a world of difference between these things."So there's no danger for individuals of this non-traditional sexual orientation, who are planning to come to the Games as visitors, or participants."Read our law carefully - and pay attention to its name."It's called a 'ban on the propaganda of paedophilia and homosexuality'."There are countries, including in Europe, where they're debating the possibility of legalising paedophilia."Publicly discussing this, in Parliament."They can do what they want, but the people of Russia have their own cultural code, their own traditions."It seems to me that the law we adopted doesn't harm anybody."What's more, homosexual people can't feel inferior here, because there is no professional, career or social discrimination against them."When they achieve great success, for example Elton John - he's an extraordinary person, a distinguished musician, and millions of our people sincerely love him, regardless of his sexual orientation." Right, Mr. Putin: If homosexuals are highly successful globally known singers, they have a bit of a justification to live freely and to be accepted by the Russian society, even if they love to plough other guy's a**es. But if they are only moderately successful in their professional life, or even are without success, they have to be bullied, discriminated and maybe even killed. That statement makes your earlier statement towards the Olympic volunteers a lot better, of course. :wacko: And that this guy mentions homosexuality and child abuse in the same breath, tells a lot, too. It's absolutely appalling. This is even more outrageous than the behaviour of the Communist honchos before the Beijing Games. P.S. Or just take the expression "this non-traditional sexual orientation". What, for heaven's sake, makes homosexuality (which has, by all that we know, existed since the early days of mankind) a less "traditional" sexual orientation than heterosexuality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Clearly he thinks gay people are peepphiles. This guy is twisted. *pedophiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian2004 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 The whole statement of Putin oozes even more homophobia than his earlier statement towards the Olympic volunteers. His true motives shine through clearer than ever before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Swedish athletes have been told that the Olympic venues must be free of political demonstrations but they are entirely free to express their views and beliefs in any interviews. I know that in Beijing some NOCs contractually obligated athletes to keep silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Brazil did boo their leader in 07 for thr Pan Ams the last Oc I can recall where the leader was booed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Clearly he thinks gay people are peepphiles. This guy is twisted. *pedophiles That's what bothers me about this. If his lurnge of thinking about "stay away from children" is based in the idea that homosexuality and pedophilia are linked, that is such a misguided view, someone desperately needs to call him out on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 But who? Russia doesn't operate on the same ideas of social accountability that countries like the US, Australia or France do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 How will Putin be recieved at the OC? Are Russians brainwashed enough that they will give a massive ovation, or will international members of the crowd boo? I don't think many will boo, as much as many Foreign Supporters will WANT to boo, they won't, because they will be to worried about the Consequences in a non-democratic country, where freedom of speech is not aloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphacarter Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 They can't be foreign supporters if they dislike Putin. But yea, your point stands. I sure wouldn't boo for him. To be fair, I wouldn't clap loudly either. I don't think I'd boo anywhere actually... Good old Canadian politeness eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 They can't be foreign supporters if they dislike Putin. But yea, your point stands. I sure wouldn't boo for him. To be fair, I wouldn't clap loudly either. I don't think I'd boo anywhere actually... Good old Canadian politeness eh I didn't mean Foreign Supporters for Putin, I meant Foreign Supporters of the Olympics and there Countries. Putin deserves all the boos, but not many will, due to consequences of not having freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 George Osbourne was booed at the Paralympics and at the Olympic women's football final Seb Blatter was booed very loudly indeed. But back on topic, I saw this on twitter, is it true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Well, only insofar as in most countries homosexuality is illegal and their NOCs will not likely try to upset the applecart. And equally it's not the IOC's place to dictate who is chosen for Olympic teams. So technically Tatchell (who I have a lot of time for) is right, but I don't quite see how the IOC can deal with this one their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I'm not fan of Putin, and deplore many of his recent comments. But what are the odds that I will boo the guy, IN RUSSIA, surrounded by masive security forces? Zero. Heck, I saw the guy in London and didn't boo him here (nor did anyone else as far as I remember). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Has anyone posted this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542471/This-revenge-New-video-released-MILITANTS-threatens-disrupt-upcoming-Winter-Olympic-Games-Sochi-surprise-package.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Has anyone posted this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542471/This-revenge-New-video-released-MILITANTS-threatens-disrupt-upcoming-Winter-Olympic-Games-Sochi-surprise-package.html I've heard about this too, and other threats that said that an attack on the Sochi Olympics was planned and ready to go ahead. Pretty scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The song in this video appears to be the theme song of the Games: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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