Quaker2001 1251 Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p85 57 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Conservative party voted NO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. 2038 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Not unexpected, but a real shame Bye Oslo. Edited October 1, 2014 by Rob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StefanMUC 688 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Oh well, it was good while it lasted... This is now the nightmare scenario for the IOC, no matter how they want to spin it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'm sure that Bach is still "not too worried", though. There's still Beijing & Almaty! :-/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony E Loves Architecture 168 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 London 2012 - Sochi 2014 - Rio De Janeiro 2016 - PyeongChang 2018 - Tokyo 2020 - Beijing 2022. Bye Bye Almaty 2022 aswell then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Nah. If China shows reforms as a result of the HKG protests, that will boost Beijing;s bid. If not, it's ALmaty's to lose!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen-Seth 64 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Crossing all my fingers and toes that the IOC just postpones the race until next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jawnbc 61 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Wow. Almaty versus Beijing. What a dog's breakfast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daze 64 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Brilliant, again no European Games after 2012 (NO Sochi is NOT Europe) This race is so fucking ridiculous. Korea-Japan-China Any other countries in Asia for 2024+26+28? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phandrosis 171 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 maybe the IOC will be like, "eh whatever we'll just skip one who cares" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. 2038 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 IOC statement from Christophe Dubi, IOC Executive Director of the Olympic Games "This is a missed opportunity for the City of Oslo and for all the people of Norway who are known world-wide for being huge fans of winter sports. And it is mostly a missed opportunity for the outstanding Norwegian athletes who will not be able to reach new Olympic heights in their home country. It is a missed opportunity to make the most of the 880 million dollars investment the IOC would have made to the Games that would have built a considerable legacy for the people. In addition, national sponsorship rights granted by the IOC would have delivered a considerable sum and almost certainly substantially more than the 181 million dollars estimated in the bid. The most recent editions of the Olympic Winter Games (for instance Vancouver and Sochi), which have all either broken even or made a profit, have made sponsorship revenue four times higher than that. Earlier this year the Norwegian bid team asked for a meeting with the IOC for an explanation of all aspects of the IOC requirements, including the financial details, and the IOC arranged this for all three bid cities in order to ensure fair play amongst the three bids. Unfortunately, Oslo sent neither a senior member of the bid team nor a government official to this meeting. For this reason senior politicians in Norway appear not to have been properly briefed on the process and were left to take their decisions on the basis of half-truths and factual inaccuracies. For a country of such means, full of so many successful athletes and so many fanatical winter sports fans it is a pity that Oslo will miss out on this great opportunity to invest in its future and show the world what it has to offer. We will work closely with the Olympic Movement in Norway to make the Lillehammer Winter Youth Olympic Games in 2016 a success for the young athletes." http://m.olympic.org/mobile/news/ioc-statement/238610 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatsnotmypuppy 559 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Well that is one helll of a self-serving missive from the IOC. What a shame. Oslo had a real shot at rebooting the Games from a vast spectacle back to a more intimate event. I do praise the Norwegians for listening and acting on their peoples wishes though. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1900 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I do praise the Norwegians for listening and acting on their peoples wishes though. And they gave us a damned good logo. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tatsh 58 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 That's truly a shame for WOG, specially for the two bid cities that are only in the race. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1900 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 That's truly a shame for WOG, specially for the two bid cities that are only in the race. I doubt they're feeling crushed at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatsnotmypuppy 559 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Wow. Almaty versus Beijing. What a dog's breakfast. Beijing did well with the Summer Games - apart from the cost blowout and ticketing mess (half empty "sold out" events). They will run a professional Winter Games. I see no issues from an organisational viewpoint. They'll get the transport infrastructure up and running on time, the new snow venues will have a real shot at being used in the future and all the ice venues are ready to go. Sure - it'll be more of the same but they will do well enough. Almaty will do OK - they have handled a few multi sports events well. Sure it isn't a glamorous race but there are two potential hosts I am not that stressed about being capable. Lucky it's not Lviv VS Borjomi! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tatsh 58 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I doubt they're feeling crushed at the moment. I was referring that Beijing and Almaty aren't the best places for WOG in that moment. Beijing did good games in 2008, but with the HK issues and the situation in human rights, the chinese capital city has not a good atmosphere are Oslo or even Liv has. And Almaty, wel... i hope they'll do a good games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 If human rights were an issue, 2008 would have been in Toronto. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ofan 696 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Anyone else consider that if Rio goes well, maybe cities will become interested in giving hosting a go again? It seems to be a strictly European issue at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. 2038 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Those in Norway seemed happy to let half-truths become fact (some of the arguments against this bid have been ridiculous), and the IOC was too quick to defend everything Sochi did which meant real concerns were never answered properly. If the Norwegian government didn't bother to send a representative to a meeting they'd requested, it's not a good sign. But then again, would the IOC have actually given them answers they'd have liked? Maybe best these two part ways for now. Or it would be if there were other good options. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-Money1983 11 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'm sure this question has been asked before... But, if worse comes to worse- any chance they'll move it back to SLC or Vancouver? Much like they did for Innsbruck in 1976. I know Beijing has been said to be an 'insurance policy', but didn't know if using a second venue was in the works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thatsnotmypuppy 559 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I was referring that Beijing and Almaty aren't the best places for WOG in that moment. Beijing did good games in 2008, but with the HK issues and the situation in human rights, the chinese capital city has not a good atmosphere are Oslo or even Liv has. And Almaty, wel... i hope they'll do a good games. China has Tibet and Uighur issues around the 2008 Games and that didn't stop them. The HK issue will quiet down a bit soon enough after a half arsed gesture by the HK legislature. China may be amping up the rhetoric but they are also wisely showing some restraint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 It's seemingly clear by that IOC statement, that Oslo 2022 had this in the bag (despite some of the arguments against by some here) & that Beijing & Almaty stood no chance whatsoever. Now the IOC has to grin & bare the taste of castor oil. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TorchbearerSydney 246 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 The IOC saying 'Sochi made a profit' is the sort of delusional self justification that scared Oslo off. The IOC should have said, Sochi was a one-off extravaganza, all good fun, but never to be repeated. Saying it made a profit is a bizarre accounting sleight of hand that fools no one. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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