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Nothing is Official Yet. Paris hasn't completely ruled out a Bid, neither has Rome. Germany looks like they are quite serious about Bidding.

Los Angeles will not Host in 2024. They won't have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe.

Germany will get Euro 2024, and this will be the end of the Olympic dreams.

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I have to say I'm surprised by the intensity of some posters' disregard for Oslo. I really don't see it as "been there, done that." What I see is that the IOC has taken two big gambles with the Wint

This statement is incredibly angry and off-putting. The IOC ought to say "mea culpa." Instead they're lashing out at the Norwegians. This isn't going to fix anything and it shows just how out of tou

So 1 of them says that France and Italy may not bid. And the other feels compelled to respond by saying pretty much the same thing, just worded a little differently...

What will be decided first? Euro 2024 i expect to be decided in 4 years (since we now have just 2020 decided), and Olympic 2024 will be decided in 3 years. I think they will try to bid on both, does the Olympic miss, then they have Euro. And do they get the Olympics I think they will drop out of Euro... And then go for euro 2028.

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What will be decided first? Euro 2024 i expect to be decided in 4 years (since we now have just 2020 decided), and Olympic 2024 will be decided in 3 years. I think they will try to bid on both, does the Olympic miss, then they have Euro. And do they get the Olympics I think they will drop out of Euro... And then go for euro 2028.

UEFA's options are now limited with their new 24 team format. Germany has made a deal with England to withdraw the 2020 final package bid in London's favour to go for the full 2024 Euro instead (and with English support). Turkey may eventually bid as well, but they're not exactly flavour of the month anymore, and it seems pretty sure that Germany will host.

For the Summer Olympics, they might be decided beforehand, but the IOC will (probably) have more options than UEFA and with the knowledge that Euro 2024 is almost guaranteed for Germany, it is highly unlikely the IOC would also go here with the Summer Games while there's (as examples) also bids from Los Angeles or even Durban on the table.

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Nothing is Official Yet. Paris hasn't completely ruled out a Bid, neither has Rome. Germany looks like they are quite serious about Bidding.

Los Angeles will not Host in 2024. They won't have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe.

If based merely of speculation, I can bring out a good handful of news articles stating the mayors disinterest and low enthusiasm for the bidding/hosting of the 2024 games. A quick Google search pulls up insidethegames' article, published not too long ago. The excerpt shows quite clearly that the mayor is not very enthusiastic.

Anne Hidalgo, Paris's new Socialist Mayor, came across as not particularly enthusiastic about a bid in comments made earlier this year.

During a visit to the United States - which seems increasingly likely to launch a well-supported 2024 bid of its own - Hidalgo said that, while she loved sports, "today we are all under financial and budgetary restraints that do not make it possible for me to say I support such a candidacy".

(http://www.insidethegames.biz/olympics/summer-olympics/2024/1022212-france-appoints-yet-another-new-sports-minister-as-paris-continues-to-mull-2024-olympic-bid)

Of course things can always change, but as speculation goes, I'd say Paris is a no-go. Hidalgo seems very firm on her opinion.In fact, she was even very firm on the subject for quite a while prior to this article. Also, the "nothing is official yet" phrase coming from you is... ironic. The British kid that's always nagging about his notorious prediction list is suddenly taking about waiting for official announcements?

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If based merely of speculation, I can bring out a good handful of news articles stating the mayors disinterest and low enthusiasm for the bidding/hosting of the 2024 games. A quick Google search pulls up insidethegames' article, published not too long ago. The excerpt shows quite clearly that the mayor is not very enthusiastic.

(http://www.insidethegames.biz/olympics/summer-olympics/2024/1022212-france-appoints-yet-another-new-sports-minister-as-paris-continues-to-mull-2024-olympic-bid)

Of course things can always change, but as speculation goes, I'd say Paris is a no-go. Hidalgo seems very firm on her opinion.In fact, she was even very firm on the subject for quite a while prior to this article. Also, the "nothing is official yet" phrase coming from you is... ironic. The British kid that's always nagging about his notorious prediction list is suddenly taking about waiting for official announcements?

Correction: English Kid.

Anyway, I was just pointing out, Rome and Paris hasn't ruled out a Bid, like GCL wrongly claims.

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Have you heard that Paris Mayor she does not support an Olympics Bid and want to bid for World Expo instead and Italy Prime Minster is anti Olympics Games. So France and Italy may not even bid as well for 2024 like Germany if they want EURO 2024. Turkey is now an Islamic state and they wont win the 2024 games and Baku Azerbaijan wont be ready for the 2024 games to host it. Los Angeles USA is shaping out to be the clear frontrunner for the 2024 Summer Games.

Nothing is Official Yet. Paris hasn't completely ruled out a Bid, neither has Rome. Germany looks like they are quite serious about Bidding.

Los Angeles will not Host in 2024. They won't have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe.

So 1 of them says that France and Italy may not bid. And the other feels compelled to respond by saying pretty much the same thing, just worded a little differently...

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So 1 of them says that France and Italy may not bid. And the other feels compelled to respond by saying pretty much the same thing, just worded a little differently...

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How are we saying the same thing?

GCL claims Los Angeles will Host in 2024. I don't think they will.

GCL claims that Paris, Rome and a German Bid will definitley not Bid. I said don't rule out them Bidding until they Officially rule out Bidding. Germany seems serious about Bidding for the 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics.

GCL keeps changing his mind. He has no clue on the situation obviously. One minute he claims Berlin will Host, then he claims Los Angeles will. Also, he used to claim that Lima would Host the 2032 Summer Olympics and Paralympics, but now he claims Berlin will Host.

Like I've said before in the UEFA Euro 2024 Thread I think it was, I know this isn't the Topic (But Hosting the UEFA Euro 2024 can affect the outcome of the 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics Bidding, as much as I think Holland should Host the UEFA Euro 2024 (Seeing as though Holland, Germany and Turkey look serious in Bidding for the UEFA Euro 2024), I think UEFA will choose Turkey, for the simple reason that Turkey only just missed out on Hosting both the UEFA Euro 2016 and UEFA Euro 2020. If Holland doesn't Bid, then I would prefer Germany to Host then Turkey to Host. I think most of us realise that Istanbul won't be Hosting a Summer Olympics and Paralympics anytime soon. I've noticed some have got an obsession with Istanbul Hosting, just like some have got an obsession with Almaty Hosting the Winter Olympics and Paralympics, will be disappointed, because Istanbul and Almaty will not be Hosting.

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@Tony E No, look. If you pay very close attention to the bolded words in the quote below (and very close attention to the underlined words), you will understand that GCL is not saying Los Angeles will host, he is saying that LA is shaping up "to be the clear frontrunner." He didn't say Paris, Italy and Germany and for sure not bidding, he even said "may", a very significant keyword in understanding his posts. Although his opinions may seem a bit "special", that still doesn't make up for the fact that you are wrongly accusing him. You really are just rewording his words into your own.

Have you heard that Paris Mayor she does not support an Olympics Bid and want to bid for World Expo instead and Italy Prime Minster is anti Olympics Games. So France and Italy may not even bid as well for 2024 like Germany if they want EURO 2024. Turkey is now an Islamic state and they wont win the 2024 games and Baku Azerbaijan wont be ready for the 2024 games to host it. Los Angeles USA is shaping out to be the clear frontrunner for the 2024 Summer Games.

Also, as for the "English Kid", I'm not so sure. If you consider HongKong to be a country purely because they have an Olympic team, then that means Team GB is Team England in the 'lympics, correct?

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I think most of us realise that Istanbul won't be Hosting a Summer Olympics and Paralympics anytime soon. I've noticed some have got an obsession with Istanbul Hosting, just like some have got an obsession with Almaty Hosting the Winter Olympics and Paralympics, will be disappointed, because Istanbul and Almaty will not be Hosting.

I say this as an observation, not to be insulting.. a lot of people here do cling to certain ideas that seem pretty crazy to the rest of us. But you are the last person here who should be pointing that out about someone else. And perhaps you shouldn't be so authoritatively talking about who won't host an Olympics in the same post where you completely lost the high ground on GCL. woohoo beat me to it, but he said exactly what I was going to point out about GCL's post. I'm curious to hear how you took "LA is shaping up to be the front runner" to mean GCL claims Los Angeles will Host in 2024.

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@Tony E No, look. If you pay very close attention to the bolded words in the quote below (and very close attention to the underlined words), you will understand that GCL is not saying Los Angeles will host, he is saying that LA is shaping up "to be the clear frontrunner." He didn't say Paris, Italy and Germany and for sure not bidding, he even said "may", a very significant keyword in understanding his posts. Although his opinions may seem a bit "special", that still doesn't make up for the fact that you are wrongly accusing him. You really are just rewording his words into your own.

Also, as for the "English Kid", I'm not so sure. If you consider HongKong to be a country purely because they have an Olympic team, then that means Team GB is Team England in the 'lympics, correct?

? I am an English Kid though.

Ok, maybe I took GCL's post the wrong way, but it does seem like he think Los Angeles will Host in 2024, when they won't.

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But... but... nothing's official yet. How could you make such a claim when the IOC hasn't particularly said a word on the subject

Because, the IOC won't have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe. It's not going to happen. Unless Rome, Berlin and Paris all withdraw (All 3 of them won't all withdraw), the IOC will 100 Per Cent be coming back to Europe.

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Because, the IOC won't have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe. It's not going to happen. Unless Rome, Berlin and Paris all withdraw (All 3 of them won't all withdraw), the IOC will 100 Per Cent be coming back to Europe.

Yeah, and we also said that for 2020.

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Because, the IOC won't have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe. It's not going to happen. Unless Rome, Berlin and Paris all withdraw (All 3 of them won't all withdraw), the IOC will 100 Per Cent be coming back to Europe.

Just like the IOC won't have 4 Winter Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of - traditional - Europe, you mean? Which may well happen if Oslo falls...

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Just like the IOC won't have 4 Winter Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of - traditional - Europe, you mean? Which may well happen if Oslo falls...

And who could have foreseen (likely) 3 Asian Olympics in a row?

Tony, nor anyone for that matter, can make such confident claims about the future of the Olympics, especially at this point of mounting uncertainty for the movement. All I really see here is Tony's euro-centric bias shining through. If it can't be London or England, it has to at least be the same continent.

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You don't suggest England is part of Europe, I hope???

England is it's own continent, along with Wales which is also part of our [the English] continent. It isn't like Scotland and Ireland which are part of Europe.

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Because, the IOC won't have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe. It's not going to happen. Unless Rome, Berlin and Paris all withdraw (All 3 of them won't all withdraw), the IOC will 100 Per Cent be coming back to Europe.

And here you are, criticizing GCL by making false claims against him (shaping up ≠ will host, may ≠ definitely), when you yourself are also making outrages claims also. At least GCL has some sort of proof for his previous statements. You on the other hand, as others have mentioned above, are already being catapulted with proof that the IOC can be very flexible sometimes depending on the circumstances.

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I am 99.9 Per Cent sure that when either or all of Rome, Berlin and Paris Bid, Los Angeles and Durban won't stand a chance for the 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics. They will not have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe. Having 2 Summer Olympics and Paralympics outside of Europe was rare. If/When Beijing Host if Oslo withdraws, then I'm quite certain that the 2026 Winter Olympics and Paralympics will be coming to Europe aswell, if Oslo stay and eventually Host 2022, I can see 2026 going to North America.

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I am 99.9 Per Cent sure that when either or all of Rome, Berlin and Paris Bid, Los Angeles and Durban won't stand a chance for the 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics. They will not have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe. Having 2 Summer Olympics and Paralympics outside of Europe was rare. If/When Beijing Host if Oslo withdraws, then I'm quite certain that the 2026 Winter Olympics and Paralympics will be coming to Europe aswell, if Oslo stay and eventually Host 2022, I can see 2026 going to North America.

1964 Tokyo - 1968 Mexico City

1984 Los Angeles - 1988 Seoul

1996 Atlanta - 2000 Sydney

2016 Rio - 2020 Tokyo

That's how rare it is. In a span of 60 years, it happened 4 times. So yea, not rare at all. At some point, we're going to have 3 straight Summer Olympics outside of Europe. Now if (key word there: "if", not when) the field is Rome, Berlin, Paris, Los Angeles, and Durban, then yea there's a decent chance a European city wins. But I'd hardly put the odds that high.

And considering that if Oslo withdraws from the 2022 race, we're looking at 2 consecutive Winter Olympics in Asia, I would make no assumptions about where 2026 would be. North America could just as easily win that one. But thank you for repeating your predictions for the 87th time, as if we weren't clear the first 86 times.

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I am 99.9 Per Cent sure that when either or all of Rome, Berlin and Paris Bid, Los Angeles and Durban won't stand a chance for the 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics. They will not have 3 Summer Olympics and Paralympics in a row outside of Europe. Having 2 Summer Olympics and Paralympics outside of Europe was rare. If/When Beijing Host if Oslo withdraws, then I'm quite certain that the 2026 Winter Olympics and Paralympics will be coming to Europe aswell, if Oslo stay and eventually Host 2022, I can see 2026 going to North America.

Do you happen to have any quotes from IOC members saying that they wouldn't allow that? Because from what I can tell, the only reason that there have never been 3 SOG outside of Europe is just because of the quality of the bid that wins, not where it is. It's just a coincidence that it has been that way. There's no secret foot note or anything that doesn't allow 3 non-Euro SOGs in a row. Bids that win only have issues with location if the previous games have been very close by, and that's only been a factor recently. For example, you have the SOG from 1920 to 1928, all in Europe, all sharing borders. It kind of shows that the IOC chose them not because of location, but because their respective bids were convincing enough to gain the votes during the election.

You also have to take into account that the games were very Euro-centric until the middle of the 20th century. Sure, the games had been in the US before that in 1932, but the world was in the economic trash so no one except LA even bid. Even after the games became worldwide, the IOC was growing into a more republican group, bringing in Africans, Asians, Americans, and all types of people instead of the Europeans who had run it until that point. And speaking of the occurrence of 2 non-Euro SOGs being rare, these occurrences make up 14% of the SOG. If they were truly rare, this percentage would be much smaller. Alongside, every occurrence of this has happened within the past 50 years, showing the true change within the IOC from the European trend it held only for only 40 years until now. It also shows that more nations that before this shift were seen as inferior to the glorious Europe like Mexico or Korea/Japan became capable to host and did host on par with their European colleagues in the past.

This change isn't going to stop just because Europe "wants" the games again. Just because they "want" them (their governments, usually not the people these days), therefore they should get them, is a very immature way of seeing the bidding process. What is SE Asia wants them? Africa, perhaps? What if the never mentioned Caribbean market, like Jamaica, wants to host so they can pay homage to all of their stars on the track? There is no denying that these nations could do it either. They have all hosted large sporting events in the past. Sure, they are arguably not as bis as the Olympics, but at least they have the same experience hosting like the European nations do. Doesn't that, theoretically, make them even when it comes to bidding for the Summer Olympic Games?

TL;DR, the IOC isn't Euro-centric anymore so don't expect it to be from here on out. The exec. board is one non-euro short from being split 50/50 between the two. There are more nations every year capable of hosting that are in SE Asia, South America, and Africa. Things change. B)

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