StefanMUC Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Two events done and already a complete medals set for Norway. Giving 2022 to Oslo would clearly be a grave error... *end of sarcasm* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwayOlympics Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 The GB version was provided direct from the bid committee. the proper version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwayOlympics Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Probably the best ambassador Oslo can get for their bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 He might even still be active then ;-) Certainly already top fave for cauldron lighting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowriver Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Some news showed up in Polish (aka the compatition ) media, regional part of Gazeta Wyborcza, most know news paper in Poland. Also they don't pointing out any source, so i'm not sure if it's true. Also sorry of this was already mentioned as i didn't read whole over 50 page thread: http://krakow.gazeta.pl/krakow/1,44425,15413487,Oslo_nie_chce_igrzysk_zimowych__Wladze_Krakowa__nasze.html I will translate the lead text, for rest use translator: Oslo don't want Winter Olympics. Kraków governors: "Our chances rising" Government of Norway is not decided to give finance guaranties to Oslo, that are needed for promotion of there winter olympic games application. Surveys suggest that citizens of this country don't want Olympics. Kraków magistate: :"If Oslo will cancel there application, chances of Kraków would rise significantly." In text they also mention those survey results: "If Oslo and regions of Lillehammer should be host of the games" 55% No 38% Yes, highest negative answers was in north part of the country 79%, they also saying that in Oslo number of people againts Olympics rised with 49% No 45% Yes ( to compere with official referendum 53% Yes 43% No) But again they don't list any source no source so i don't know how much it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 If that is true, then Krakow has every right to be confident. Like I said, Krakow will only win if Oslo pulls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowriver Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Small correction as i cant edit post and i think some people might get confused "..is not decided if to give..." So in general they still thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzl Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 They've fixed it. http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/winter_olympic_bids/2022_olympic_bid/1216136860.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markun Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I don't think they would have gone to the extent of unveiling a logo (no other candidates have done so yet) and running a pretty big operation in Sochi if they haven't had assurances from the government that it is worth their while to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 ^I agree. All of that would seem like such a waste if there was any inclination that the government was going to pull the plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I don't think they would have gone to the extent of unveiling a logo (no other candidates have done so yet) and running a pretty big operation in Sochi if they haven't had assurances from the government that it is worth their while to do so. Lviv did before Oslo. But I agree Oslo has this in the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I think they went with such a logo knowing that if they did have to bail out, at least they didn't spend 100,000's of $ on a more grander logo (or even a national competition, which would have also cost $) It's simple, nice and does the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I think they went with such a logo knowing that if they did have to bail out, at least they didn't spend 100,000's of $ on a more grander logo (or even a national competition, which would have also cost $) It's simple, nice and does the job. Agree, although considering their commitment and status as a Winter power; evident in their current #1 standing in medals. Oslo will stay in I think it will be a fight between Oslo and Krakow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattygs Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I think it's safe to say, if they have a good Sochi, the Japan effect will kick in. Tokyo 2020 has alot to thank London for, in regards to the Japanese performance there really did help raise public support for the bid. I can only imagine the same will happen for Norway in Sochi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwayOlympics Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Written in Norway´s biggest newspaper, last wednesday "- The Conservatives are very ready to give a State guarantee for the Olympics in Oslo", says industry spokesperson in the Progress party, Øyvind Korsberg . Earlier Wednesday, it emerged that the Conservative party in the government think Norway should set standards for the International Olympic Committee (IOC ) before treatment about the government guarantees in favour of the Oslo bid for 2022 Olympic Winter Games. If the Government is to grant state guarantees to Oslo, it will be an event in completely different terms than what we see in Russia. Members of Parliament from the Conservative Party said to Aftenposten that they will demand changes from IOC after the cost evolving trend with the Sochi Olympics . These are some of the suggestions the Conservatives proposes to the IOC : - Get rid of gigantism associated with the Olympics. Specifically , it's partly about reducing pampering factor. - Reusing existing venue sites. In Sochi a full Olympic city has been built up . - An event more accessible for people with fewer barriers and less special treatment of VIPs . - Cost control . One concrete measure is to look at the number of exercises. Olympics has grown much larger since the beginning. The more exercise , the higher the costs. - Moral requirements. Discrimination and human rights violations related to the Olympics is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 A bid team saying our bid would like to present a Games this way is one thing. Politicians making demands of the IOC quite another. Norway needs to be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I think that if the IOC wants countries such as Switzerland, Austria or Germany to bid for 2030 or later they should stop doing strange choices and go for Oslo this time. Sochi will be successful Olympics but they will be strong deterrents for classical Alpine powers with the cost issue. I say 2030 based on the assumption 2026 will be in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I think its more, we are going to present a particle bid that would suit Norway, not a bid that would be overly lavish and unnecessarily grandiose. Oslo meets all the technical requirements of the IOC, including the 'pampering' factor. We will see, but in the end Norway is in a much stronger position to make demands of the IOC with no established competition. The IOC won't reduce events. But I think the IOC might put in federation quotas like they have in the Summer Olympics. Like if FIS wants to introduce team alpine skiing, they will have to sacrifice another event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattygs Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I'm not dissing our Russian hosts, because the people I have seen and the volunteers I've seen seem fantastic.... as always. However, the prospect of gigantus crowds amongst mountains blanketed with snow , even if they are all frantically waving Norwegian flags, is one that is very very attractive at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Rome released a Logo for 2020, then pulled out, so the Applicant Logo doesn't guarantee Oslo won't pull out. Fingers crossed they DON'T pull out, because they are by far the strongest Bid IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 No one here is saying that it's a "guarantee" that they won't pull out, just seemingly unlikely ATP. And it's not just the logo, but also the Oslo 2022 bid organizers promoting the bid in Sochi. I mean, why go through all of that if the bid has absolutely no hope at all of getting the government support. But we'll find out soon enough once the applicant files are due by March 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwayOlympics Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Enthusiasm for the 2016 Youth Olympics in Lillehammer http://www.idrett.no/nyheter/Sider/Begeistring-for-Ungdoms-OL-.aspx http://lillehammer2016.no/2014/02/09/begeistring-for-ungdoms-ol-2016-pa-lillehammer/ IOC member and Chairman of YOG 2016 Coordination Commission, Angela Ruggiero. At the opening of the IOC Session´s third day in Sochi, it was given a thorough reporting on the status of the work of the Youth Olympics at Lillehammer in 2016. The report was given by IOC member and Chairman of YOG 2016 Coordination Commission, Angela Ruggiero (USA). IOC is very well satisfied with the progress of the project and the direction that work now. The Organization Committee excellent cooperation with local sports communities and the region's educational institutions was highlighted, as well was the close cooperation between the Youth Olympics and NIF (Norwegian Sport federation) featured as a major force for the event. - I feel that the IOC has great confidence in the work currently being undertaken by the Organizing Committee and Norwegian sports in this matter. It is very pleasant to hear that the IOC president is looking forward to come to Lillehammer, and the general attitude of the Youth Olympics as a concept is now very strong in the IOC, said Secretary General Inge Andersen. NIF was on this occasion represented by the Secretary General Inge Andersen, special advisor Magnus Sverdrup and marketing consultant for NIF and Lillehammer in 2016, Jomar Selvaag. The Norwegian IOC member and board member of the organizing committee for the Lillehammer 2016, Gerhard Heiberg was also present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 A bid team saying our bid would like to present a Games this way is one thing. Politicians making demands of the IOC quite another. Norway needs to be careful. I don't know about that. The IOC is making demands of the government -- it's fair for the government to retort, "Fine, but here are our conditions." This is especially true of Norway. They are the most desirable remaining bid and it would be catastrophic for the IOC from a PR point of view if they withdrew. In my opinion, Norway has a lot of leverage and their demands are justified. No one here is saying that it's a "guarantee" that they won't pull out, just seemingly unlikely ATP. And it's not just the logo, but also the Oslo 2022 bid organizers promoting the bid in Sochi. I mean, why go through all of that if the bid has absolutely no hope at all of getting the government support. But we'll find out soon enough once the applicant files are due by March 14th. I agree they're unlikely to withdraw at this point, but I think the silent threat of withdrawal could be useful to them. Who knows? If the IOC is really unreceptive to their concerns, maybe they will pull out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.bernham Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Oslo EARLY Applicant File Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Coast Lions Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 On Gay Rights Norway is the best country of the 5 countries for Gay people, Poland and China are moving forward on Gay Rights and Kazakhstan and Ukraine are going backwoods on Gay Rights, The next host of the Winter Games South Korea 2018 is the fastest changing place on Gay Rights in the world right now back in 2007 18% of South Koreans supported Gay Relationships in 2013 it is 39% of South Korea supports Gay Relationships with 75% of the people under the age of 33 supports them. lol hi everyone, my name is shaun and i dont think my brother knows im writing this here. Brazil with Brazil being the 1st country hosting the Summer Games with Gay Marriage it was with Canada for the Winter games in 2010 and Japan are both gay friendly countries,. I no longer support Kazakhstan bid for the 2022 Winter Games they are going down the same road as Russia on his issue so I am supporting Beijing China to host the 2022 Winter Games I think Norway hosted too much for a country small in size people wises 3 games within 70 years for a country of 5 million I love Norway but Norway needs to wait longer for an games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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