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Thing is any track stadium would take up a lot of space even if it is temporary (space that could be used for something with a more positive legacy), and it still costs a lot to build a stadium of size with all the bells and whistles that the IOC demands. Then it costs money to tear it down again, so a temporary stadium is in no way cheap

i agree that temporary stadiums aren't cheap but it's much better to make something temporary and scale it to legacy ( the london stadium as actually a temporary stadium with a concrete permanent stadum in the bottom) rather than a white elephant sitting there to waste away for years to come,

my suggestion is for LA to make a temporary shell for the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. that way the city has a choice for legacy mode

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if everyone in this thread just agrees to agree with you will you please stop? i'm not sure how many more pages of you posting the exact same post on the damn bus drivers getting lost we can take. i

Why do you like to repeat yourself multiple times? Its very annoying.

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If you're going to reply to a post from baron and talk about ceremonies.. look at what cities like Beijing and London and Sochi have done to turn their stadiums into a canvas for the artistry of the Opening Ceremony. Not to say you can't do that with Soldier Field, but there's a reason these organizing committees tend to put a lot of effort and expense into building the main stadium into something that will be functional for the ceremonies. If you're going to put on a show for the world, you're going to want the appropriate setting to do so. Tough to get that from an existing stadium if you can't add the types of bells and whistles to make the ceremonies a spectacular event. Rio is an exception to the rule because they have a main stadium that was going to get renovated anyway in addition to a secondary stadium built to host track and field. So even if you're talking about a temporary stadium for track and field, it still needs to have 80,000 seats and probably isn't going to stay that way after the Olympics, so if you're going to put the resources and effort into that stadium, why not make it the home base for the ceremonies in addition to the track and field competition.

The Joao Havelange Stadium will only have 60,000 Seats for the Athletics at Rio 2016 and not 80,000, so a Temporary Stadium could be a 60,000 Seater. Also, I was looking at the picture of Soldier Field and noticed that there is no road connecting to the Stadium itself for pitch access. I thought for easy access, Stadiums should have this. How would competitors have access to the pitch for Athletics?

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The Joao Havelange Stadium will only have 60,000 Seats for the Athletics at Rio 2016 and not 80,000, so a Temporary Stadium could be a 60,000 Seater. Also, I was looking at the picture of Soldier Field and noticed that there is no road connecting to the Stadium itself for pitch access. I thought for easy access, Stadiums should have this. How would competitors have access to the pitch for Athletics?

The IOC minimum seating requirement for athletics and for the ceremonies is 60,000. The USOC's stipulation is for 80,000. So no, Chicago could not propose a temporary stadium with 60,000 seats unless the USOC were willing to accept a stadium smaller than they require. Of course, if a city like Chicago is going to propose a temporary stadium, why not put the extra seating in there anyway

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If you're going to reply to a post from baron and talk about ceremonies.. look at what cities like Beijing and London and Sochi have done to turn their stadiums into a canvas for the artistry of the Opening Ceremony. Not to say you can't do that with Soldier Field, but there's a reason these organizing committees tend to put a lot of effort and expense into building the main stadium into something that will be functional for the ceremonies. If you're going to put on a show for the world, you're going to want the appropriate setting to do so. Tough to get that from an existing stadium if you can't add the types of bells and whistles to make the ceremonies a spectacular event. Rio is an exception to the rule because they have a main stadium that was going to get renovated anyway in addition to a secondary stadium built to host track and field. So even if you're talking about a temporary stadium for track and field, it still needs to have 80,000 seats and probably isn't going to stay that way after the Olympics, so if you're going to put the resources and effort into that stadium, why not make it the home base for the ceremonies in addition to the track and field competition.

Altho if they put in a full platform for a new track, that alone would work for Ceremonies as Vancouver, London & Sochi have worked out for their Ceremonial needs. Rio added more tunnels to Maracana's infield during the redo, precisely for possible 2016 ceremonial use. So, no, with a little tweaking, Soldier Field could be retrofitted for a T&F -- only I wouldn't know what their eventual seating capacity would be.

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Altho if they put in a full platform for a new track, that alone would work for Ceremonies as Vancouver, London & Sochi have worked out for their Ceremonial needs. Rio added more tunnels to Maracana's infield during the redo, precisely for possible 2016 ceremonial use. So, no, with a little tweaking, Soldier Field could be retrofitted for a T&F -- only I wouldn't know what their eventual seating capacity would be.

By saying they added more tunnels to Maracana's infield, do you mean the gaps in the lower tier?

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By saying they added more tunnels to Maracana's infield, do you mean the gaps in the lower tier?

No. New tunnels & trapdoors have been added in the infield for NO other purpose than to funnel people & possible props on to the infield for show purposes.

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No. New tunnels & trapdoors have been added in the infield for NO other purpose than to funnel people & possible props on to the infield for show purposes.

So what are those gaps in the lower tier in the corners and one behind the goal?

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So what are those gaps in the lower tier in the corners and one behind the goal?

Access to locker rooms, operational and media facilities underneath the stadium, found in every single stadium built in the last 100 years.

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Access to locker rooms, operational and media facilities underneath the stadium, found in every single stadium built in the last 100 years.

I'm guessing they are for vehicle access aswell, like Emergency services etc. Also, I've noticed that alot of them gaps look like they lead to nowhere from above. Prime example is the Arena Pernambuco in Recife, the tunnels lead to nowhere outside.

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I'm guessing they are for vehicle access aswell, like Emergency services etc. Also, I've noticed that alot of them gaps look like they lead to nowhere from above. Prime example is the Arena Pernambuco in Recife, the tunnels lead to nowhere outside.

That "nowhere" is probably an officials or athlete access point. Also could be used for production trucks for tv broadcasts. Tony, if these tunnels are new to you then maybe you are not the stadium expert that you claim you are.

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That "nowhere" is probably an officials or athlete access point. Also could be used for production trucks for tv broadcasts. Tony, if these tunnels are new to you then maybe you are not the stadium expert that you claim you are.

They are not new to me, honestly. I would say I know quite a lot about Stadiums. I just pointed out that some Stadiums, the access points don't lead to nowhere. Anyway, back to topic.

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Competition was tight to bid for the 2012 Olympics. Voting was close until the last round. Vancouver 2010 might have something to do with it since the IOC probably did not want the Olympics to happen consecutively on the same continent. Bidding for the Olympics is not an easy task and you need a large team plus public support in order for a bid to be successful.

Bob Costas interviewed IOC President Thomas Bach in Sochi and he said the IOC wants to promote the Olympic Movement by allowing areas that has not hosted yet a chance as well as bringing the Games to regions where its held multiple times. He used the example of giving the 2008 Games to Beijing for the first time and awarding the Olympics to London in 2012. The last time Asia held the Winter Olympics was in Nagano 1998 and Pyoengchang's bid brought the games back for the first time in twenty years. Salt Lake City hosted in 2002 and Vancouver hosted in 2010, so the Winter Games are coming back to North America anytime soon. It look like the IOC will award the 2024 Summer Games to an African city if the bids are achievable. When the 2024 (or 2028) Summer Games approach, North America hasn't hosted the games in thirty years, so if an American, Canadian, and/or even a Mexican city submits an excellent bid; the Games will likely return on this continent.

Toronto is planning a bid for 2028 and Guadalajara might bid either in 2024 or 2028. We knew the USOC sent letters to twenty-five cities asking if they'll be interested in bidding for the Olympics. Philadelphia, Dallas-Fort Worth, Los Angeles, Washington, Boston, San Diego, and San Francisco responded or started to explore a potential bid. Chicago is not sure and probably will not submit a bid despite the USOC's pleas and New York has not made a decision whether to get on board with an Olympic project. There's also some consideration in bidding for the 2026 Winter Olympics to kick-off America's 250th Birthday Celebration Year. U.S. Soccer is looking to bid for the 2026 FIFA World Cup. The IRB is also looking at the United States to host the 2023 or 2027 Rugby World Cup since promoting the game in America is a long-term goal for International Rugby.

Out of the American cities who responded; Los Angeles and Dallas-Fort Worth are the only two metropolitan areas capable of hosting the Summer Olympics. Los Angeles hosted twice and many of the venues were located on college campuses in the area. Dallas-Fort Worth is thinking about converting the Cotton Bowl as an Olympic Stadium and use AT&T Stadium, American Airlines Center, and Toyota Stadium as venues. Another idea in consideration is converting the historic Fair Park complex into an Olympic Park. San Francisco is capable of hosting, but the venues would be too scattered across the Bay Area (some might take an hour travel w/o a police escort). Boston and San Diego is too small and not capable of hosting. Philadelphia would be the dark horse, but since I am from the area; the city is capable of hosting the Olympic Games.

New York has the resources to sell themselves as the city to host the Olympics. They submitted a quality bid back in 2012. One of the things I found intriguing was the fact athletes could get to their venues by water taxi's and avoid the New York traffic. One of the things holding the city back is their new mayor. It seems bidding for the Olympic Games is not in the cards at the moment. Even if New York does not bid, the IOC is keen to award the Games to Los Angeles for a third time. To make things even more interesting, let the USOC submit Dallas-Fort Worth or Philadelphia as a bid. They are always interested in looking at new horizons.

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Let's be realistic here, an Olympic track can't fit into Soldier Field. It's current seating capacity is 55,000. If the City of Chicago and the Bears want to add a track, the lower bowl needs to be removed and the field raised so it can fit. Otherwise, the stadium would have to be razed to its pre-renovation state and rebuild from there. The issue of converting the stands into press rows should not be a problem since they could convert all the luxury suites into additional press boxes/broadcast booths. The seating capacity would be reduced to 48,000; little over half of what the IOC requires.

The temporary Olympic Stadium concept in their 2016 bid was more feasible since there was no need of an Olympic Stadium after the games unless Chicago was awarded another NFL franchise. The idea of converting the stadium into a 10,000 seat mixed use venue is a great idea since it can host high school competitions and other events in the Chicago community. London's Olympic Stadium was designed as a temporary venue since Wembley Stadium is the main venue in town and West Ham was eventually going to take over an convert the stadium based on their needs.

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dchang, do you realize how many errors there are in those 2 rambling posts of yours?

Vancouver 2010 was not a factor in New York losing the 2012 race. The IOC has no reservations about awarding consecutive Olympics to the same continent. Nearly happened for the 2000 Olympics. Nearly happened again for the 2010 Olympics. And then it did happen for 2020 because of a lack of other appealing options. NYC 2012 went up against some really stiff competition. It wasn't in the cards for them.

You say that Bach's interview revealed that he wants the Olympics in either regions that haven't hosted or regions that have hosted? So in other words.. any region? Can't really peg a continent on that basis.

For what it's worth, the USOC letter went out to 35 cities, not 25. You mentioned some of the positive responses. Chicago is very sure about their intentions for 2024.. they're not bidding (and FYI, capacity for Soldier Field is 61,500). New York has pretty much made a decision.. there was little to no interest in a bid and the new mayor came out and said they're not looking at bidding right now.

As for those who are interested.. remains to be seen how keen the IOC is to go to Los Angeles for a 3rd time. It all depends on how LA and the USOC sell the bid. It's also possible 1 of the other aforementioned cities will put together a good enough package to entice the IOC. And if none of those cities or Los Angeles presents a compelling case, the USOC might skip 2024 altogether.

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I typed in 2024 Summer Olympics in Google and came across this blog about the possible Washington 2024 Summer Olympics Bid - http://collegepark.patch.com/groups/sports/p/dc-2024-leaders-named-for-summer-olympics-bid


Source: College Park Patch.

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I typed in 2024 Summer Olympics in Google and came across this blog about the possible Washington 2024 Summer Olympics Bid - http://collegepark.patch.com/groups/sports/p/dc-2024-leaders-named-for-summer-olympics-bid

Source: College Park Patch.

I typed in 2024 Summer Olympics in Google and came across this blog about the possible Washington 2024 Summer Olympics Bid - http://collegepark.patch.com/groups/sports/p/dc-2024-leaders-named-for-summer-olympics-bid

Source: College Park Patch.

Tony your preaching to the choir.

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I typed in 2024 Summer Olympics in Google and came across this blog about the possible Washington 2024 Summer Olympics Bid - http://collegepark.patch.com/groups/sports/p/dc-2024-leaders-named-for-summer-olympics-bid

Source: College Park Patch.

Also found something on a possible Washington 2024 Summer Olympics bid from a site called GamesBids, I hear they have a lot of good info on Olympic bidding.. Business Leaders To Head A Washington 2024 Summer Olympic Bid

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Also found something on a possible Washington 2024 Summer Olympics bid from a site called GamesBids, I hear they have a lot of good info on Olympic bidding.. Business Leaders To Head A Washington 2024 Summer Olympic Bid

Oh, I've heard that site was great until it was recently taken over by trolls!

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Oh, I've heard that site was great until it was recently taken over by trolls!

I didn't mean to post something that was on here. I forgot, it was a mistake. Move on.

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are they for real?? In that article they mention the following cities are interested... lol

"Other cities considering a 2024 Summer Games bid are Atlanta, Boston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Seattle, the Washington Business Journal reports. "

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I attended a Commonwealth Club Talk with the Mayor Ed Lee in San Francisco. I wrote a question what do you think of hosting the olympics but it was not asked. However in a related question on building a new arena on the waterfront for the local NBA Basketball Team he fully supported it so who knows whether he supports SF 2024 or not

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I attended a Commonwealth Club Talk with the Mayor Ed Lee in San Francisco. I wrote a question what do you think of hosting the olympics but it was not asked. However in a related question on building a new arena on the waterfront for the local NBA Basketball Team he fully supported it so who knows whether he supports SF 2024 or not

No.

1. The Warriors arena is in jeopardy

2. Mission neighborhoods are stonewalling the Google & other efficient buses;

3. The America's Cup might not even come back for 2017...

And u think the City can go for the Big O????????? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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No.

1. The Warriors arena is in jeopardy

2. Mission neighborhoods are stonewalling the Google & other efficient buses;

3. The America's Cup might not even come back for 2017...

And u think the City can go for the Big O????????? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

1. That was not what the question was about it was more about was it the right place and he said It was but they are required to look at others he also said that it would cost the city somewhere between 40 and 100 (I forgot) million to fix the pier it will be on and they are offering to pay for it themselves. It will happen the NIMBY's won't stop it

2. Yeah I hate what there doing it's not techs fault

3. That's because the city pays for that and they lost money

Last I never said we could host a olympics games and I don't think it will happen all I asked was what do you think of hosting big sporting events like the Olympics

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1. That was not what the question was about it was more about was it the right place and he said It was but they are required to look at others he also said that it would cost the city somewhere between 40 and 100 (I forgot) million to fix the pier it will be on and they are offering to pay for it themselves. It will happen the NIMBY's won't stop it

2. Yeah I hate what there doing it's not techs fault

3. That's because the city pays for that and they lost money

Last I never said we could host a olympics games and I don't think it will happen all I asked was what do you think of hosting big sporting events like the Olympics

Well then why does your signature say, "Bring the Olympics back to the USA , SAN FRANCISCO 2024" ?

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