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I actually “landed” in Tulsa in March for the 2013 AKC National Agility Championship; one of my family’s dogs was competing at Expo Square. This was a big event with many hundreds of participants; all the top dog/trainer teams were there. Our dog had 4 amazing clean runs over the 3 day event and came in 15th overall, which was an unexpectedly high placing for this dog, and it felt like an Olympic Cinderella story to us. It was exciting and we had an AMAZING time in Tulsa!

Be yeah, not expecting to go to the human Olympics there and time soon.

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Where are these people getting their fricken information from?! Toronto & Buffalo?! That's was laughed & scoffed at long ago. And Kenya, really?

I guess they cherry picked the cities where Tulsa didn't measure up too shabbily against.

I mean to say .... Toronto!!???!!! LOL!

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lol Toronto biding with Buffalo is like San Diego bidding with Tijuana. Its a non-starter.

At least San Diego and Tijuana are decently close to one another. The idea of Toronto and Buffalo bidding is just so stupid.

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Interesting.

This reminds me of your comment about NYC's silence being "deafening" a month or more ago - or at least I think you mentioned that.

I'd be willing to bet NYC is going to jump into this. I'd be quite happy for either Philadelphia or NYC to be the US 2024 candidates - both for different reasons. I think if a city from another region of the US is selected, I might shift my mental support to Durban or Paris. I'm really hooked in the idea of a truly East Coast US Olympics.

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Can't Tulsa just bring in cruise ships like Rio? Oh, wait....

Tulsa would probably propose the 13,000 rooms they have, an additional 10,000 legacy hotel rooms and a media village which accounts for around 10,000 rooms. That gives us around 43,000 rooms.

How would they cover the rest? They could propose 20,000 pointless apartment type accommodations.

Tulsa has a lot to do in order to get something as big as the Olympics. They'd be better off going small scale with a Pan American games.

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I actually “landed” in Tulsa in March for the 2013 AKC National Agility Championship; one of my family’s dogs was competing at Expo Square. This was a big event with many hundreds of participants; all the top dog/trainer teams were there. Our dog had 4 amazing clean runs over the 3 day event and came in 15th overall, which was an unexpectedly high placing for this dog, and it felt like an Olympic Cinderella story to us. It was exciting and we had an AMAZING time in Tulsa!

Be yeah, not expecting to go to the human Olympics there and time soon.

We need "Agility" as a new Olympic sport (or just a discipline of Athletics.) It would be kinda like the old Obstacle Course from Superstars.

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I'd disagree with that as well. Tulsa isn't ready for any major multi-sporting event.

It's not even just about them not being ready.. is there ever going to be a scenario, even for an event like the Pan Ams, where Tulsa will be the most attractive option among candidate cities?

I think it's a given they're fools for shooting for the Olympics. To me, it still seems like this is more about publicity and getting their name into a conversation with the big boy cities of this country rather than any sort of delusions they could actually land an Olympics.

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I think it's a given they're fools for shooting for the Olympics. To me, it still seems like this is more about publicity and getting their name into a conversation with the big boy cities of this country rather than any sort of delusions they could actually land an Olympics.

You call them fools. Then you give the exact reason they aren't fools.

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I'd disagree with that as well. Tulsa isn't ready for any major multi-sporting event.

Guadalajara managed to pull off a small scale Pan American Games after the huge Rio 2007 games. Tulsa can do something similar to Indianapolis or Winnipeg.

It's not even just about them not being ready.. is there ever going to be a scenario, even for an event like the Pan Ams, where Tulsa will be the most attractive option among candidate cities?

I think it's a given they're fools for shooting for the Olympics. To me, it still seems like this is more about publicity and getting their name into a conversation with the big boy cities of this country rather than any sort of delusions they could actually land an Olympics.

Actually if Tulsa were to bid for the Pan Ams, they might just have a good shot, given that the US hasn't hosted since 1987. The next edition would be too soon of course, right after Toronto. But if there's no other capable bids, then they could win it. Assuming they bid of course.

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Guadalajara managed to pull off a small scale Pan American Games after the huge Rio 2007 games. Tulsa can do something similar to Indianapolis or Winnipeg.

Actually if Tulsa were to bid for the Pan Ams, they might just have a good shot, given that the US hasn't hosted since 1987. The next edition would be too soon of course, right after Toronto. But if there's no other capable bids, then they could win it. Assuming they bid of course.

But the cities that were floated for a Pan Ams in the USA are the likes of Miami and San Antonio not Tulsa.

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You call them fools. Then you give the exact reason they aren't fools.

No, they're still fools. Them doing this for publicity doesn't mean it's going to work. Is this really going to change the stereotype of Tulsa as a "flyover, Dust Bowl town?" Are people going to see this and say "gee, I'd really like to check out Tulsa.. seems like a great place to visit"? I fail to see how this is a positive for their city as opposed to actually landing an event they're capable of hosting. If they're about economic development for the city, this seems like a little too extreme example of a door-in-the-face request that's not going to do much for them.

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Poor Hobart :( This is all because of that ridiculous Olympic bid idea floated by that Tasmanian loonie a few years ago - thankfully I wasn't active on these forums because it would have sent me crazy.

I think Hobart is quite happy as the beautiful and peaceful Halifax/Anchorage/Reykjavik of Australia... not the Tulsa. :)

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well, ya know, it's with those 'loonies' that some Olympic bids actually get started and bear fruition. Two 'lone visionaries' come to mind: Alexander Cushing brought the 1960 Winter Games to his little resort of Squaw Valley ,besting the traditional European ski resorts. Then there was Billy Payne of Decatur, Georgia, who w/in just a short 2 years' time, brought home the bacon to his beloved Atlanta.

It can happen if the loonies know how to play the game and have the stars align for them.

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Hell - Tulsa wouldn't even be frontrunner against the likes of Leipzig or Sheffield. In that scenario Leipzig would have it in the bag - perhaps something the German Olympic COmmittee should have realised back in the 2012 bidding - they were going up against Paris and London, not Tulsa and Sheffield.

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San Diego-Tijuana Olympic bid dealt crippling blow


SAN DIEGO (AP) -- A cross-border bid for San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico, to host the 2024 Summer Olympics appeared dead before arrival Tuesday when the U.S. Olympic Committee said international rules don't allow two countries to mount a joint candidacy.


The news was delivered as San Diego Mayor Bob Filner and his Tijuana counterpart, Carlos Bustamante, prepared to name a cross-border planning committee within the next week and unveil a logo.


Scott Blackmun, the USOC's chief executive, said Friday that the committee was talking to 10 cities about a possible bid, including San Diego-Tijuana. He said the committee hadn't looked carefully at the cross-border proposal but that it would ''have its challenges.''


After more research, Christopher Sullivan, the USOC's chief of protocol and bids, called Filner's liaison to the committee on Tuesday to say the International Olympic Committee charter doesn't allow for bordering countries to host Summer Games, said USOC spokesman Patrick Sandusky.


''There's no opportunity for them to bid together,'' Sandusky said.


A spokeswoman for Filner, Lena Lewis, had no immediate comment. A spokeswoman for Bustamante, Martha Saldivar, didn't immediately respond to a message.


For Filner, the bid was part of a broader effort to build closer ties with a Mexican border city separated by an overwhelming presence of Border Patrol agents and two fences - one topped with coiled razor wire. A bid would force the cities to examine their strengths and weaknesses together and assess infrastructure in a region of about 5 million people.


''Even if we lose, we win,'' Filner, a former congressman who was elected to a four-year term in November, said Saturday.


Bustamante embraced the idea when Filner announced it at a ceremony in February to open a city of San Diego office in Tijuana. The Mexican leader said a bid would enhance the region's image.


It was a familiar setback. San Diego philanthropist Malin Burnham said the USOC doomed a bid he led to bring the Summer Games to San Diego-Tijuana in 2016, determining 10 years ahead of the date that there wasn't enough time to amend the IOC charter. A planning committee had raised $300,000 and hired architectural firm HOK to develop a proposal, which Filner planned to use as a starting point for the 2024 bid.


San Diego could decide to pursue a bid without Tijuana, Sandusky said.


The USOC has said it will decide by the end of 2014 whether to submit a bid. Los Angeles - host of the 1984 and 1932 Summer Games - Philadelphia and Tulsa, Okla., have also expressed interest and New York and San Francisco are possible contenders.


San Diego and Tijuana could also ask the Mexican Olympic Committee to sponsor a joint bid, but they may encounter the same hurdle they did with the USOC.


A joint bid would still face significant challenges, including a lack of sporting venues. It also often takes hours in line to enter the United States at the nations' busiest border crossing.


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Now if only the USOC would put fricken Tulsa in it's place. And this also goes to those certain individuals that incessantly question why "joint" bids are ruled out. Here you have a big NOC saying just that.

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