runningrings Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Right on cue. Lovely, George. The presenter on Democracy Now lost my attention when she said "we will look at Mitt Romney's role heading the 2002 Summer Olympics in Salt Lake City" - minor detail, but big when considering the attention to detail they are asking of us. Going forward - I think "George" is a premeditated troll. He ought to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Forum will be "poor" without me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Somebody really insists on the "I think", "I believe", "In my opinion before every single sentence. Look at the totality of my posts. Look at the spirit in which they are written. The "sprit" in which they are written is that you are unquestionably correct, that the facts should be obvious for everyone else to see, that it's shocking not everyone agrees with you, etc. If that's not the spirit you intend, we can give you some basic writing lessons on how to convey the tone you intend without putting "I think" before everything you write. Just let us know. But as a quick tip, don't use the word "absolutely" when you mean, "here is my guess." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Forum will be "poor" without me Yes, what would we ever do without all the random off-topic posts that have little, if anything, to do with the subject at hand. So poor we would all be without that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotatoChips Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yes, what would we ever do without all the random off-topic posts that have little, if anything, to do with the subject at hand. So poor we would all be without that. I think he left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Salt Lake City To Bid For Winter Olympic Games - Report http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/winter_olympic_bids/future_winter_bids/1216136364.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook i think with my experience that they will loose however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 So did you not notice that someone bumped up the U.S. Winter 2022/2026 bid thread? Or did you just assume to post about this news here anyway? Not everything needs to go through this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 its useless to have 2 threads for the same country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 its useless to have 2 threads for the same country Pretty sure you don't get to decide what's useless here. And considering we're now on page 279 of this thread and the U.S. Winter thread (started back in 2010 and largely untouched the past 2 years) is 36 pages. Sure seems like it should be 2 separate threads to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 It should be two separate threads. The list of potential Summer cities and the list of potential Winter cities is very different -- as are the geopolitics surrounding each race. I'm pretty sure you'll find multiple threads about Canadian Games, multiple threads about Australian Games and multiple threads about German Games as well. There are also multiple threads about the next Asian host and quite a few other subjects. I agree that sometimes threads become redundant, but this isn't one of those cases. We can talk about the Winter options in their designated threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 It should be two separate threads. The list of potential Summer cities and the list of potential Winter cities is very different -- as are the geopolitics surrounding each race. I'm pretty sure you'll find multiple threads about Canadian Games, multiple threads about Australian Games and multiple threads about German Games as well. There are also multiple threads about the next Asian host and quite a few other subjects. I agree that sometimes threads become redundant, but this isn't one of those cases. We can talk about the Winter options in their designated threads. Sorry couldn't help it geopolitics is used incorrectly in your statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Sorry couldn't help it geopolitics is used incorrectly in your statement How so? Definition of GEOPOLITICS 1: a study of the influence of such factors as geography, economics, and demography on the politics and especially the foreign policy of a state 2: a governmental policy guided by geopolitics 3: a combination of political and geographic factors relating to something (as a state or particular resources) I'm using the third definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 How so? Definition of GEOPOLITICS 1: a study of the influence of such factors as geography, economics, and demography on the politics and especially the foreign policy of a state 2: a governmental policy guided by geopolitics 3: a combination of political and geographic factors relating to something (as a state or particular resources) I'm using the third definition. PM me. Its more of location/space/place then anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 intoronto1125 - I'm going to have to side with Athensfan on this. If we are going to get into semantics, by definition he has used the word appropriately in the context of Olympic bidding. Moving forward - what about Atlanta? After hearing news of Salt Lake City stepping forwards for 2026 - does anybody think that Atlanta might show some interest in a second Olympic bid in the 2020's? SLC and Atlanta both had different Olympic experiences, but would Atlanta dare try it's luck again? If the USOC was left with interest from the likes of Dallas or Minneapolis, and Atlanta stepped up, as if it woulnd't be tempting just to go with the latter "second tier" city that at least has Olympic heritage and some legacy, (a new stadium would obviously be needed). How much would Atlanta need to do for a second go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 My definion of geopolitics " "Discourse about world politics, emphasizing state and regional competition and the geographical dimensions of power" It could be I misread the statement, any ways I don't have my glasses on atm. @Runningrings I don't think Atlanta was highly successful as SLC (I rmbr SLC like it was yday, something I can't of other games besides Vancouver and off course London) and the IOC might not have the appetite to go back there if other cities like Durban, Paris, Toronto, Berlin bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotatoChips Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 intoronto1125 - I'm going to have to side with Athensfan on this. If we are going to get into semantics, by definition he has used the word appropriately in the context of Olympic bidding. Moving forward - what about Atlanta? After hearing news of Salt Lake City stepping forwards for 2026 - does anybody think that Atlanta might show some interest in a second Olympic bid in the 2020's? SLC and Atlanta both had different Olympic experiences, but would Atlanta dare try it's luck again? If the USOC was left with interest from the likes of Dallas or Minneapolis, and Atlanta stepped up, as if it woulnd't be tempting just to go with the latter "second tier" city that at least has Olympic heritage and some legacy, (a new stadium would obviously be needed). How much would Atlanta need to do for a second go? SLC is not getting the games again, at least not for a very long time, no matter how interested they are. Same for Atlanta. No team needs a new stadium and I doubt the public would fund one. If the USOC wants the games then they wouldn't put up Atlanta. They need one of the top 4 cities to get close to a winning bid. And having a bombing in the olympic park during the games won't persuade anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 My definion of geopolitics " "Discourse about world politics, emphasizing state and regional competition and the geographical dimensions of power" ] An Olympic bid is the action of a nation state, privately funded or otherwise. It is competition between states and regions. A successful Olympic bid is the demonstration of geopolitcal power, in varying circumstances. States (countries) are the primary actors of the Olympic movement, so even by your own definition, Athensfan use of the word is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 An Olympic bid is the action of a nation state, privately funded or otherwise. It is competition between states and regions. A successful Olympic bid is the demonstration of geopolitcal power, in varying circumstances. States (countries) are the primary actors of the Olympic movement, so even by your own definition, Athensfan use of the word is correct. Power yes, Discouse no. The IOC does not believe in discourses. Its like someone saying South Africa is full of crime after just reading on article on the mine arrests. ----- Back to topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotatoChips Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Anyone want to talk about bidding? We may not know a lot of what's to come, but arguing over definitions of words, doesn't seem to make sense on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Moving forward - what about Atlanta? After hearing news of Salt Lake City stepping forwards for 2026 - does anybody think that Atlanta might show some interest in a second Olympic bid in the 2020's? SLC and Atlanta both had different Olympic experiences, but would Atlanta dare try it's luck again? If the USOC was left with interest from the likes of Dallas or Minneapolis, and Atlanta stepped up, as if it woulnd't be tempting just to go with the latter "second tier" city that at least has Olympic heritage and some legacy, (a new stadium would obviously be needed). How much would Atlanta need to do for a second go? In the 2020s? We probably won't see them again probably until about the 2320s. No, I can't see Atlanta trying again. They got lucky the last time. I'd say they need at least 2 or 3 Summer Olympics to be held in the United States for them to even think about getting back in the game. Los Angeles could conceivably selected as host again in the not too distant future, and even that might be a stretch. Not Atlanta though. Certainly not that soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Atlanta 96 was a disappointment, they must never bid again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Atlanta 96 was a disappointment, they must never bid again You are a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 look your achievements, you failed in security part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 look your achievements, you failed in security part George, you are in the same C.E. year as the rest of us? You are 16 years too late. Ho-hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotatoChips Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 look your achievements, you failed in security part Elephant in the room.... George, Do you hate America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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