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In the 2020's, when economies have recovered and Europe starts to stabilise (I hope), I think Rome's withdrawal could actually be reflected upon as a positive thing, if it steps up when the economy is

Well, Athan has just said it's quicker than that with High Speed Rail. Besides which, Sailing is always going to be out on a limb unless a coastal city is hosting the Games, that's just the way it is

this thread is bloody boring

In madrid, the employ is better than the total of spain, now is in 17%, 8% less than the total. Madrid is the first economy in spain, and the city is the 3th in european union. I think the situation not is so bad than other spanish region, andalucia, murcia or canarias for example.

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Madrid submit the bid file to IOC

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not going to lie that bid file front cover is so boring, need some colour + the people dont seem really happy...

In madrid, the employ is better than the total of spain, now is in 17%, 8% less than the total. Madrid is the first economy in spain, and the city is the 3th in european union. I think the situation not is so bad than other spanish region, andalucia, murcia or canarias for example.

are you saying unemployment is at 17%????

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^^^Yes. The unemployment rate in Spain has always been quite high compared to the rest of Europe, and now with the economic crisis it is even higher. In fact, this is one of the reasons why the bid committee says Spain needs the Games.

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but in spain many people work no contract. this is one of the problem in the spanish´s economy. If you visit Madrid now, you don´t feel the "crisis"... many people buying, in bar, etc etc.. But the rural zone is really the drama of this crisis.

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^^^Yes. The unemployment rate in Spain has always been quite high compared to the rest of Europe, and now with the economic crisis it is even higher. In fact, this is one of the reasons why the bid committee says Spain needs the Games.

Wow that is unbelievably high, i wouldn't feel safe giving the games to them but we never know...

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Wow that is unbelievably high, i wouldn't feel safe giving the games to them but we never know...

It is high but it's what Javier said, you can visit Madrid or any other city in Spain and not feel the crisis. It's not that all the country has suddenly become poor. There are guarantees that Madrid can host the 2020 Games with no difficulties.

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According to what I'm reading on several websites, there are two main "clusters": the river Manzanares and Campo de las Naciones. In other words, Casa de Campo and its surroundings and the area near Juan Carlos I Park. That's just what we were saying here a week ago that would be the ideal project!! :D

BTW, I can't find the applicant file anywhere... :wacko: where is it?

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^^^That's because if Madrid is awarded the Olympics, they will build new metro and cercanías/commuter rail stations joining the Olympic Park with Campo de las Naciones. In fact, they are quite close from each other but the lack of a metro line means long travel distances between them. This problem would be solved by 2020. Perfect!

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