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In the 2020's, when economies have recovered and Europe starts to stabilise (I hope), I think Rome's withdrawal could actually be reflected upon as a positive thing, if it steps up when the economy is

Well, Athan has just said it's quicker than that with High Speed Rail. Besides which, Sailing is always going to be out on a limb unless a coastal city is hosting the Games, that's just the way it is

this thread is bloody boring

Rome, Tokyo, Spain, Remitting 2020 SOG

In view of the fact that virtually all countries nowadays have reached an acceptable level of Global development and have the capacity to stage the Olympic Games, gone is the time of only few countries being able to stage the Olympic Games. In this check, Rome, Tokyo, Spain, should by all means remitt the 2020 SOG.

If the Olympic Games are so treasured by the Global audience, then it would be nice to give the world a chance to show a new host of the Olympic Games every time

they are held. In a period of 70-seventy years the world witnesses about 15-fifteen OG's of each kind. Let us be considerate for the number of countries in the world and how many years it would take for all of them to be granted the opportunity to host the world's largest sporting event. Others have not staged the OG's, however had the privilege of presenting other prestigious sporting events.

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Spanish Olympic chief, Blanco to head Madrid 2020 bid

MADRID, Sept. 8 (Xinhua) -- The Mayor of Madrid, Alberto Ruiz Gallardon announced this Thursday that Alejandro Blanco, the President of the Spanish Olympic Committee will be President of the Madrid candidacy to host the 2020 Olympic Games.

Gallardon had headed the two previous attempts by the Spanish capital to host the Games, seeing how Madrid finished behind London and Paris in the vote for the host city for the 2012 Games and lost out to Rio de Janeiro in the decision for the 2016 Olympics.

The Mayor, who is a prominent member of the Popular Party, said he believed that it would help the 2020 Madrid campaign to be headed by someone from the World of Sport, rather from the political sphere, such as Sebastian Coe, who is the figurehead of the London 2012 Olympics.

"It is the system that functioned with Rio de Janeiro and London, where they put the focal point in sport and not in politics," explained Gallardon on the website of the Spanish Olympic Committee.

A former representative of his country at Judo, 54-year-old Blanco was elected President of the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE) in January 2004.

"He has a strong professional personality and will represent all of the Olympic sports. He has always dedicated himself exclusively to sport," said Gallardon.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/sports/2011-09/08/c_131119314.htm

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Spain government approves changes to anti-doping legislation, says in line with WADA rules

MADRID — Spain’s government approved an anti-doping law that it says brings the country’s drug code in line with World Anti-Doping Agency requirements.

Spain first passed anti-doping legislation in 2006 but was forced to update it following the release of WADA’s new code in 2009.

The country’s sports ministry says the new legislation imposes an eight-year ban on the athlete if a drug test returns positive.

It also prohibits any surprise testing between 11 p.m. and 6 a.m. unless there are exceptional circumstances. If an athlete misses three tests over 18 months, they receive a three-month ban.

Spain also needed to pass the legislation because Madrid is bidding for the 2020 Summer Olympics.

Washington Post (AP)

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It had that for 2012 and 2016 too though.

And Samaranch on board as a booster as well. Still not enough to get past the time proximity to Barcelona.

Maybe this time, with 28 years to pass between Barcelona and 2020, enough time may have gone by ... but I have strong doubts.

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The Spanish Olympic Committee (COE) and the Madrid 2020 bid head Alejandro Blanco, described as "very positive" the meeting on Wednesday with IOC President Jacques Rogge to present the project for 2020 Madrid Games at the IOC headquarters in Lausanne (Switzerland).

Alejandro Blanco, who was accompanied by Vice President of the COE, Theresa Zabell, and general secretary, Victor Sanchez, were received between 12 to 14:00 by Jacques Rogge and the IOC director general Christophe de Kepper, in the first visit of representatives of the five applicants since 1 September, the deadline to submit an official candidature.

"It was a very positive meeting because we have known their views on what is the Olympic movement and we have explained the work we are doing with Madrid 2020," told Alejandro Blanco to Europa Press, who said that this visit was scheduled before his appointment as president of the Madrid bid.

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Blanco presenta a Rogge el proyecto de Madrid 2020

Europa Press | 05/10/2011

El presidente del Comité Olímpico Español (COE) y de la candidatura de Madrid 2020, Alejandro Blanco, ha calificado como "muy positiva" la reunión de este miércoles con el presidente del COI, el belga Jacques Rogge, para presentarle el proyecto madrileño para los Juegos de 2020 en la sede del COI en Lausana (Suiza).

Alejandro Blanco, que estuvo acompañado por la vicepresidenta del COE, Theresa Zabell, y el secretario general del organismo, Víctor Sánchez, fueron recibidos, entre las 12 y las 14.00 horas, por Jacques Rogge y el director general del COI, Christophe de Kepper, en la primera de visita de representantes de una de las cinco aspirantes desde el pasado 1 de septiembre, fin del plazo para la presentación oficial de candidaturas.

"Ha sido una reunión muy positiva porque hemos conocido su opinión sobre cómo está el movimiento olímpico y le hemos explicado el trabajo que estamos haciendo con Madrid 2020", comentó en declaraciones a Europa Press Alejandro Blanco, quien precisó que esta visita estaba fijada antes de su nombramiento como presidente de la candidatura madrileña.

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http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/blanco-presenta-rogge-proyecto-madrid/20111005dasdasftb_44/Tes

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It's now or never for Madrid's Olympic bid, says Raña

Mexico's International Olympic Committee (IOC) Executive Board member Mario Vázquez Raña has warned the Spanish city Madrid that if they do not triumph in their bid for the 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games, they will find it very difficult to host the event in the future.

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"If Madrid does not win on this occasion, it will be difficult to win on another," said Raña, who will not vote on where the 2020 Games are held at the session in Buenos Aires in September 2013, as his IOC membership will cease at the end of next year when he turns 80.

"Now is the moment for Madrid to win."

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Raña, though, feels that the first phase of the bid is in good shape with Alejandro Blanco (pictured), the President of the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE) and leader of the Madrid 2020 bid, doing a good job of lobbying for votes, particularly on his recent visit here.

"It is taking off well," Raña said.

"Blanco is doing a good job.

"He secured several votes here [in Guadalajara].

"Blanco is in touch with many people and he is well liked.

"I think that in Latin America, the majority or almost everyone will be there [for Madrid], as well as some from the Caribbean for sure.

"I think Madrid's victory is closer than ever before."

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http://www.insidethegames.biz/olympics/summer-olympics/2020/14713-its-now-or-never-for-madrids-olympic-bid-says-rana

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Well, it just goes to show that even Madrid knows they can't keep bidding forever. Unless a non-European candidate wins 2020, Madrid will have to kiss their chances goodbye for the foreseeable future. With North America, Africa and Asia all wanting their turn, I think the "now-or-never" outlook is pretty appropriate. If Madrid can't win, at the very least they need to knock Rome out first. That's going to be a tall order. Even if Tokyo were to host 2020, I suspect Madrid could have trouble rallying enough enthusiasm to go for 2024.

Can you imagine Durban, Madrid and Chicago all competing for 2024? The drama of it! No matter what you'd have two VERY upset losers. Africa denied again? Chicago denied again? Madrid denied a fourth time in a row? Yikes!

Of course that's PURELY an imaginative scenario. I'm not making a prediction....

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Well, it just goes to show that even Madrid knows they can't keep bidding forever. Unless a non-European candidate wins 2020, Madrid will have to kiss their chances goodbye for the foreseeable future. With North America, Africa and Asia all wanting their turn, I think the "now-or-never" outlook is pretty appropriate. If Madrid can't win, at the very least they need to knock Rome out first. That's going to be a tall order. Even if Tokyo were to host 2020, I suspect Madrid could have trouble rallying enough enthusiasm to go for 2024.

Can you imagine Durban, Madrid and Chicago all competing for 2024? The drama of it! No matter what you'd have two VERY upset losers. Africa denied again? Chicago denied again? Madrid denied a fourth time in a row? Yikes!

Of course that's PURELY an imaginative scenario. I'm not making a prediction....

And don't forget a likely Toronto bid and a chance of being denied a third time.

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Work finally begins on Atlético Madrid’s new stadium at La Peineta

The first phase in the building of Atlético Madrid’s new ground has got underway with the start of demolition work on the Estadio La Peineta, which is currently used for athletics events and will be expanded to accommodate 73,000 spectators when complete.

According to the city’s ruling council, part of one of the stands will be demolished along with two floodlights while a number of walkways, perimeter walls and the athletics track will also be ripped up.

Initially expected to be ready for the 2010/11 season, work on the new project has suffered a number of delays in recent years due to finance but was finally approved on September 28.

The current stadium has a capacity of around 20,000 and will replace the Vicente Calderón - which holds over 54,851 and was inaugurated in October,1966 - as the new home of Los Colchoneros when it is due to open in around three years time.

It will then be presented as Madrid’s Olympic Stadium in the city’s bid for the 2020 Olympic Games, when the Spanish capital will face competition from Doha, Istanbul, Baku, Rome and Tokyo.

http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_1_10933_work-finally-begins-on-atl%C3%A9tico-madrid%E2%80%99s-new-stadium-at-la-peineta.html

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Can any of our Spanish members confirm this re: the proposed Madrid Stadium project:

It will be [rebuilt as] a football only stadium, but apprently, if Madrid is finally given the olympic games, some sort of temporal refurbishement will be made. On December 5th the project is supposed to be made public.
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Can any of our Spanish members confirm this re: the proposed Madrid Stadium project:

It will be [rebuilt as] a football only stadium, but apprently, if Madrid is finally given the olympic games, some sort of temporal refurbishement will be made. On December 5th the project is supposed to be made public.

Apparently, that's the case. The owner of the new stadium will be the football club Atlético de Madrid, so they probably don't like the idea of the athletics track. The current stadium is being demolished, also the track as far as I know, but I guess we'll have to wait until December 5th to know if there's going to be a new track or if the track would just be temporary during Games' time. Anyway, there are some new (unofficial?) renderings on the Internet that may already be giving us a clue about the track:

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I do wonder what this "temporal refurbishment" would entail. How exactly could or would that work? The only thing I could think would be a "platform" much like Glasgow is doing at Hampden Park for the 2014 CWGs, but surely that would take capacity below the IOC 60,000 minimum?

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I do wonder what this "temporal refurbishment" would entail. How exactly could or would that work? The only thing I could think would be a "platform" much like Glasgow is doing at Hampden Park for the 2014 CWGs, but surely that would take capacity below the IOC 60,000 minimum?

I don't know, but that's what seems more likely to do. I hope they will explain all this clearly on December 5th.

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I was hearing the same... It will be exusivly Atletico's but... I think the crisis affects. And it will be built only in Madrid wins... And the becomes Atletico's house otherwise they will stay at Vicente Calderon

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Mmm the same as every time La Peineta will be built really far from city center... :S but i HOPE they build it anyways (Madrid wins or not) :D

Well, La Peineta is not as centrally situated as Vicente Calderón, Santiago Bernabéu or Palacio de Deportes are, but it's in the city, in the eastern district of San Blas, and well connected with the rest of Madrid via metro. It's actually one of the best places in Madrid to build the Olympic Park, IMO, and, similar to what London's doing, it's going to help develop an area that has been a little forgetten lately.

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