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Spain's credibility is in the toilet, which is a real shame because the Spanish people are amazing. But all CNN or Al Jazeera or the BBC needs to say is "25% unemployment" and everyone in the world automatically assumes Spain is a basketcase.

I'd've supported bids for events like the UCI Worlds, but the Olympics just isn't the right fit for the country at this time, particularly when it is a country still in the first tier of recent hosts.

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In the 2020's, when economies have recovered and Europe starts to stabilise (I hope), I think Rome's withdrawal could actually be reflected upon as a positive thing, if it steps up when the economy is

Well, Athan has just said it's quicker than that with High Speed Rail. Besides which, Sailing is always going to be out on a limb unless a coastal city is hosting the Games, that's just the way it is

this thread is bloody boring

Madrid 2020 just started recruiting volunteers. I don't really know what their jobs would be at this stage of the "Games", but there already were lots of volunteers for the 2012 and 2016 bids. This first recruitment campaign is called "Contigo, mejor" ("Better with you"). People can sign up on the official website.

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I don't want to sound too "purist", especially when i came from a country where the corruption and "machismo" are still as cancer in the society and government; but when a city want to compete to win an international event as the Summer Olympic Games and add the fact you're against all odds -Economical and political obstacles- and now, this:

http://sociedad.elpais.com/sociedad/2012/10/05/actualidad/1349454276_520810.html

I'm glad for the rssignation, but I hope they have damage control. Maybe it won't make more danger, but it doesn't help either. Not only he's a commisioner of the citizens, he made a terrible statement with a horrible damage for a woman and using as a correlation of breaking the laws and institutions

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crisis-ridden Spain confirms Madrid bid

MADRID, OCTOBER 10 - In spite of Spain's ballooning national debt, the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE) on Wednesday confirmed Madrid's bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics in hopes that hosting them will pull the country out of economic stagnation.

Recession-ridden Italy having thrown in the towel in February, Madrid now competes with Tokyo and Istanbul. The Spanish capital came in third after London and Paris in 2012, and was a surprise finalist along with Rio de Janeiro in its bid for the 2016 games.

''If there is a return to budgetary modesty in the Games, then we can symbolize this tendency,'' said COE President Alejandro Blanco in the wake of criticism that with Spain in a major economic crisis, the money could be better spent elsewhere. The winning bid will be announced on September 7, 2013, at the 125th International Olympic Committee session in Buenos Aires. The last time the Olympic Games were hosted in Spain was in 1992, when Barcelona hosted the XXV Olympiad.

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Spain needs Olympics more than ever'

Madrid winning the right to host the 2020 Olympic Summer Games would deliver just the boost that is needed as Spain battles against a gruelling recession, the bid leader Alejandro Blanco told AFP in an interview.

The 62-year-old, president of the Spanish National Olympic Committee, said in reply to those who query whether Madrid has the financial power to host the Games it was actually a very good reason to give Spain the Games for the second time in their history - Barcelona having hosted them successfully in 1992.

“The socio-economic situation in the country is a very good reason for investing and creating jobs and wealth to get the economy going again,” said Blanco.

“You also have to remember that the global economy has been so unstable that it's only now that we can see exactly where we are. But what's going to happen in 2020?”

Blanco, a former judoka who was also president of the Spanish judo federation, drew a comparison with some host cities whose economies were stronger than Madrid's at the time they won the Games but who since have suffered serious economic harship.

“Some host cities were in a totally different economic situation when they were awarded the Games to when they actually delivered them,” he said.

“To my mind, it's not how you start that matters so much, but how you end.

“And the fact that Madrid already has about 80 percent of the necessary infrastructures in place - including the airport, ring roads and underground - is a solid guarantee of stability.

“Our investments will be reduced to the minimum. We also have the full support of the Spanish, regional and local governments and will travel the whole way with them hand in hand.”

Blanco, whose Madrid bid is competing against Istanbul and Tokyo - the only one of the cities to have previously hosted the Games - said that a Madrid win would be a win for the country as a whole. “Spain needs the Games more than ever,” he said.

“This is a strategic project for the country as a whole, not just the city, and we need joint projects that can bring us together.

“Private enterprise is committed to the Bid and sees it as a unique opportunity to breathe new life into the economy.

“The Games will attract investors, boost investment, create wealth and promote tourism.”

Blanco, who is due to leave for a series of engagements over the next couple of months as he tries to sell his message to some of the 100-plus International Olympic Committee (IOC) members who will vote on the host city in Buenos Aires on September 7 next year, said the London Games proved his point about the economic benefits. “The project does not come to an end in 2020.

“We have to look on it as a long-term initiative that will leave an incredible economic legacy for Spain.

“We only have to look at the UK, which came out of recession in the third quarter on the back of the Games. This is only the start of a long journey.” Blanco, who says he is driven on by a passionate belief that in winning they can build a new society, said victory would also give some much-needed hope to the youth of Spain, who presently are suffering from an unemployment rate of 52.34percent. “Our young people are the force that can revitalise our economy,” said Blanco.

“They need motivation and they need to know that they can get on in life.

“We've just conducted a nationwide survey on public support for the Bid, and the results showed that 90 percent of people aged under 25 back the project.

“Young people see the Games as a vital opportunity for development and progress in these difficult times.”

Blanco added that the late Juan Antonio Samaranch, who modernised the IOC and the Olympic Games during his presidency from 1980 to 2001 turning it into the huge commercial entity it is now, would give his approval to the bid's campaign.

Samaranch, who died in 2010, gave a heartfelt speech for the last Madrid bid team at the 2009 vote in Copenhagen where they surprised many in finishing second to Rio de Janeiro.

“The path Juan Antonio Samaranch traced in the Olympic movement has been followed by the sports world as a whole,” Blanco said.

“He is a role model and wherever he is, he would be proud of the work we are doing.”

Sapa-AFP

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Hold on, what's going on here? Using the UK's (modest) economic boost from the Games is hardly a kller point in their bid's favour.

Have they stopped talking about the tens of thousands of jobs that could be created in the lead up to 2020, because they realise nobody's buying that argument anymore? After all, it's not like Madrid has to build anything on the scale of London, and they've made their bid even more conservative since their shortlisting.

Yes, the UK has seen an economic boost with the Games this summer, but 2020 is a long time to wait for Spain to get theirs. You'd hope they'd be over the recession by then, Games or no Games!

What we REALLY need to hear from Spain is a number of domestic and multinational companies arguing for the Games there, promising funds and sponsorships early on. Because for me, that's still Spain's weak link. Since the venues in Madrid will more or less sort themselves out, we need to know if their economy can, and is willing to, support the OCOG.

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