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So, it's an old sport nobody cares much about.Meh.

Well, I think you can say that about wrestling, too.

In general, I think it's hard to find popular non-Olympic sports that would be good additions to the Olympics. Those sports have their traditional events and Olympics don't become the biggest thing in those sports. I think those sports, like tennis (which I'm a big fan of) are a waste of an Olympic status, there would be many other sports where the Olympics would be athletes' main goal. What those sports have to give to the Olympics is star athletes helping in marketing. And I don't care about that very much.

I think Beach Volley has been a great addition, a young but increasingly popular sport that lacked yet a really big event. But none of those three candidates is a new Beach Volley.

I don't know about baseball. I guess the MLB title is the biggest thing in baseball, just like in any big North American team sport. The Olympics would be less important but that wouldn't be a problem for me if the Olympics would be the biggest international event and players would care about it like they do in ice hockey or basketball.

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Well, I think you can say that about wrestling, too.

Agreed. But at least wrestling has tradition going for it. If it hadn't always been an Olympic sport, it would have no chance of being added.

Personally, I wouldn't add any new sports to the Olympics now. If you don't have a "beach volleyball" don't add anything.

If the IOC wants to drop a sport like wrestling to force them to reform, then let them back in that seems like a good route to take.

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Oh wow... "you're out, now you're in again"... ???

What are the IOC waiting to replace men's football with the beach version?

Replacing Football would be a bit daft I think. Its a major driver of ticket sales, it isn't too difficult to organize (typically its purely with existing infrastructure) and it allows to spread the games to different parts of the country. In most cases its probably a net positive in terms of money.

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Replacing Football would be a bit daft I think. Its a major driver of ticket sales, it isn't too difficult to organize (typically its purely with existing infrastructure) and it allows to spread the games to different parts of the country. In most cases its probably a net positive in terms of money.

I believe that the beach version would largely surpass it in terms of budget saving and infrastructure works/maintenance. It might not reach the same level of ticket sales since there would be just one venue with considerably smaller capacity. Nonetheless, I'd prefer a small though regularly packed stadium with spectators excited to witness a match that will surely warrant goals after goals, most with high artistic flair. Besides, beach football would actually bring its best performers to the Olympics, rather than an under-23 squad pointed with one or two "stars".

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http://aroundtherings.com/articles/view.aspx?id=44446Pound said there are a lot of events that people would be quite happy to get rid of. Im not an expert in athletics, but the walk races, theyre a nightmare to organize and half the time people are running, not walking. It would not be a tragedy for that event.He added that there is no reason to cap the program at 25 core sports. Its just somebodys decided that thats the magic number and all of a sudden that becomes sacred.

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http://aroundtherings.com/articles/view.aspx?id=44446Pound said there are a lot of events that people would be quite happy to get rid of. Im not an expert in athletics, but the walk races, theyre a nightmare to organize and half the time people are running, not walking. It would not be a tragedy for that event.He added that there is no reason to cap the program at 25 core sports. Its just somebodys decided that thats the magic number and all of a sudden that becomes sacred.

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Well, that sure sounds like Dick Pound.

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http://aroundtherings.com/articles/view.aspx?id=44446Pound said there are a lot of events that people would be quite happy to get rid of. Im not an expert in athletics, but the walk races, theyre a nightmare to organize and half the time people are running, not walking. It would not be a tragedy for that event.He added that there is no reason to cap the program at 25 core sports. Its just somebodys decided that thats the magic number and all of a sudden that becomes sacred.

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Race walking is a traditional athletics event, no way it should be dropped from the games.

About football, I think it's OK it's the games. Yeah, men's football is basically an U23 ch'ship but women's football has all big names. And football has long traditions in the Olympics. But beach soccer could be a good addition, a growing sport without a really big event. Olympics would a big for beach soccer.

I think golf was a bad addition. The Olympics won't be golfers main prioroty in Olympic years. But yeah, golf brings more viewers than e.g. squash.

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What are the IOC waiting to replace men's football with the beach version?

They won't get rid of football - it's worth far too much money. But they could keep it and add the beach version (similar to volleyball).

None of the 8-9 sports that were seriously considered are worth adding. Unless something better comes along (maybe beach football) the IOC should leave well enough alone.

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Race walking is a traditional athletics event, no way it should be dropped from the games.

The networks NEVER even show vast stretches of it like they do the marathon. It should go. It's a weird, dorky sport to look at -- and I've never met anyone who is exhilarated or changed by watching "racewalking."

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I was not considering dropping women's Olympic football tournament (which is actually highly esteemed in the

Race walking is a traditional athletics event, no way it should be dropped from the games.

About football, I think it's OK it's the games. Yeah, men's football is basically an U23 ch'ship but women's football has all big names. And football has long traditions in the Olympics. But beach soccer could be a good addition, a growing sport without a really big event. Olympics would a big for beach soccer.

That's why I only suggested dropping men's football, but yeah, it would be unacceptable for FIFA to kill the men's tournament and keep the women's. Actually, the FIFA Beach Soccer World is the sport's highest competition, but it's relatively young and still growing in regards to media attention. Having it at the Olympics would help it a lot.

Race walking needs to deal with the subjectivity of judges. The human eye cannot distinguish, at that marching speed, if a foot is ALWAYS on the ground - because to me it NEVER is, even if for microseconds! I'd drop the 50km event - too long, uneventful, and no one gives a damn after 1/4 of the race.

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I don't think race walking is the biggest problem for the Olympics. They have also other street events, and walking doesn't require new sports venues.

Tennis is a sport I'd drop off from the games. Olympics really aren't the most important event for tennis but the host needs a 10k-seater stadium and two other 3-5k-seater stadiums. I think there would be sports with cheaper venues.

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I don't think race walking is the biggest problem for the Olympics. They have also other street events, and walking doesn't require new sports venues.

Tennis is a sport I'd drop off from the games. Olympics really aren't the most important event for tennis but the host needs a 10k-seater stadium and two other 3-5k-seater stadiums. I think there would be sports with cheaper venues.

I actually don't think the venue is a real problem for Tennis. Not because it isn't expensive but because so many of the city who could potentially host already have existing facilities.

Looking back at the last three cycles, the only cities to make the shortlist that didn't already have a suitable Tennis centre where Chicago and Rio. New York, Paris and London obviously host Grand Slams, but Moscow, Madrid, Tokyo and Istanbul also all have very good existing Tennis centres.

The thing that is concerning is that host cities don't experiment with building a temporary centre court when they don't have existing facilities. But so far only Atlanta and Athens really got burned by it (and Athens got burned with all of its venues, so...). Seoul, Sydney and Beijing are the other cities that build new facilities and they are all still in use.

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AP noticed it too

Bach says baseball, softball possible for 2020

TOKYO -- New IOC president Thomas Bach says there is a possibility that baseball and softball could be added to the program for the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo.

"This will be under discussion," Bach said at a news conference on Wednesday.

"We will have the first broad discussion in December in a meeting of the Executive Board of the IOC, then the

Executive Board will present its first discussion paper to the IOC session in Sochi."

Baseball and softball were dropped from the 2012 program after a 2005 vote by the IOC.

They failed in a bid to be reinstated for the Olympic program for 2020 and 2024 at an IOC vote in September, but Tokyo's winning bid has refueled calls for them to be included when the Japanese capital hosts the games.

While the Olympic Charter states that a sport's inclusion in the program must be decided not later than the session electing the host city, Bach stressed the need to be flexible.

"I am open for more flexibility in the Olympic program," Bach said. "But first we have to see what the rest of my colleagues in the IOC think."

Baseball and softball are popular in Japan and there are many existing facilities in the Tokyo area that could be used if the sports were included.

Bach was accompanied by IOC vice president John Coates, who heads the coordination commission for the Tokyo Games.

Japan is scaling down the cost of the planned 80,000-seat main stadium following an uproar from some prominent architects who think it's too big and expensive.

Coates said the IOC is open to changes as long as the cutbacks don't compromise the basic plan of the facility.

"It's inevitable that costs will be reduced," Coates said. "We are always open to that as long as the basic facility isn't compromised."

AP

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Several days ago Felli said no and somebody of IOC in Tokyo said 28 programmes in 2020,nothing will be added.Now Bach is mentioning the possibility. I think it had to be decided 7 years before OG? But today Bach says 7 years rules won't be obstacles for the return of baseball + softball,,,,.Only for Tokyo 2020? Those sports are popular in Japan but think about after Tokyo,they will be absolutely removed soon again.

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Bach must still be in election campaign mode, trying to please everyone and making promises.

Either you have rules or you don't. Flexibility is fine, but then change the rules BEFORE taking a decision, and not retroactively. It could open the door for all kinds of unnecessary discussions. For example, the Squash folks might have a word or few to say on that issue.

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