4gamesandcounting Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Sydney tried and falled. Would that have been taekwondo? Can't see how one extra small indoor hall is such a large commitment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveRingFever Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's actually a lot easier for MLB to accommodate the Olympics than the NHL, but they're too busy worshipping at the altar of the almighty dollar to give up their All Star weekend cash cow and play a few scheduled double headers. God forbid we don't get to see the Home Run Derby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Goodbye baseball lol Now probably down to Karate or wrestling It's actually a lot easier for MLB to accommodate the Olympics than the NHL, but they're too busy worshipping at the altar of the almighty dollar to give up their All Star weekend cash cow and play a few scheduled double headers. God forbid we don't get to see the Home Run Derby! If there was no WBC I think the MLB might have said yes. But there is and with more financial gain there they feel like the Olympics are not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'm totally pro-wrestling. No to everything else. Interesting. Pro Wrestling as an Olympic sport. Be a lot more entertaining than Greco-Roman, but not sure it fits within the Olympic spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Would that have been taekwondo? Can't see how one extra small indoor hall is such a large commitment? No it was canoe/kayak slalom. Sydney wanted nothing to do with it, did not plan a venue and told the IOC they weren't going to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4gamesandcounting Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Ah well - with that it wasn't even a new sport! It was in the games when they bid So don't know how they tried to get away with that one! Although I guess the precident is there with bobsleigh in squaw valley - but that was a long time ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Interesting. Pro Wrestling as an Olympic sport. Be a lot more entertaining than Greco-Roman, but not sure it fits within the Olympic spirit. You completely mis-read the post. He is pro-wrestling meaning he is on the side of including real wrestling onto the program. No it was canoe/kayak slalom. Sydney wanted nothing to do with it, did not plan a venue and told the IOC they weren't going to do it. Interesting, considering in the end they had the best legacy for the venue after the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted May 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Wrestling wants 2 new women's weight classes The acting president of wrestling's international governing body says it is poised to add two weight classes for women in its push to remain in the Olympics.FILA'S Nenad Lalovic tells The Associated Press that a rules committee will recommend the move during the organization's congress in Moscow next week. If approved, it would also eliminate one weight class in both men's freestyle and Greco-Roman.Wrestling officials would then include the change in its May 29 presentation to the IOC for provisional status in the 2020 Olympic Games.There were seven weight classes for men's freestyle and Greco-Roman at the recent London Games and four for freestyle women. Lalovic says the six weight classes for women would fall between 50 and 74 kilograms. AP http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_307134/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=sKJTC1ug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 THis will be their ultimate undoing. Women's events will be outnumbered still. If they were smart they'd propose 9 women's events and 9 men's freestyle events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm starting to think the inclusion of climbing is a tactical counter to trip up any future Doha bid - seeing as their highest mountain is a 5m high sand dune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm starting to think the inclusion of climbing is a tactical counter to trip up any future Doha bid - seeing as their highest mountain is a 5m high sand dune. lool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm starting to think the inclusion of climbing is a tactical counter to trip up any future Doha bid - seeing as their highest mountain is a 5m high sand dune. If they can build an artificial ski slope resort in Dubai... I don't see why any future Doha bid couldn't come up with a couple of 100 million dollar legacy mountain climbing venue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I'm starting to think the inclusion of climbing is a tactical counter to trip up any future Doha bid - seeing as their highest mountain is a 5m high sand dune. But lots of cool towers to climb - Aspire, Dubai Towers Doha, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 According to Aroundtherings.com the IOC may shortlist the sports to be up for inclusion sometime next month. While we're on the subject of new sports, while it's not up for inclusion, does anyone think MMA might eventually be included or would that be seen as to barbaric by the IOC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykfan845 Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 MMA will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I wonder of the IOC would keep wrestling off the short list just to make it impossible for the membership to overturn the earlier decision. That would be disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted May 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 FILA approves new rules to keep wrestling in games MOSCOW (AP) - Wrestling's governing body has approved new rule and constitutional changes aimed at modernizing the sport and keeping it in the Olympics after 2016. A special congress Saturday of the federation, known by the acronym FILA, decreed there will be a mandatory women's vice-presidency role. The new rules will ensure matches are made up out of two three-minute sessions instead of three two-minute periods. Scoring will become cumulative instead of the previous two-out-of-three system. The changes come after the International Olympic Committee removed wrestling as one of the core sports of the games in February. It is now one of eight sports that will be competing for an open slot at the 2020 Games. That decision will be made by the IOC in September. AP http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268750/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=YMkecglz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Rogge praises wrestling's changes LONDON (AP) - Wrestling's governing body has "reacted well" and made the necessary changes to give the sport a chance of saving its place in the Olympics, IOC President Jacques Rogge said.In an interview with The Associated Press, Rogge said FILA has tackled the issues that led the IOC executive board in February to remove wrestling from the list of core sports for the 2020 Games."I think they had the good answer and the good reaction," he said. "They obviously were taken a bit by a surprise by the fact they could leave the core group."Rogge praised the measures approved by FILA at its congress in Moscow last weekend, including rule changes to make matches more compelling and the inclusion of women and athletes in decision-making positions.Wrestling is now competing with seven other sports for a single spot on the 2020 program. The IOC board meets in St. Petersburg, Russia, next week and will recommend one sport or a shortlist of sports for a vote by the full IOC in September."The federation definitely understood the reasons why they were ousted, and they reacted what they normally should have done," Rogge said. "They did a good job on that, so we'll see what the judgment is of the executive board on all of the eight sports but definitely I would say that wrestling has reacted well."That does not guarantee a spot in the shortlist or the single presentation. It was at least the minimum they could do and they did it. They have addressed the shortcomings. That was a good reaction.'"Wrestling, which dates back to the ancient Olympics, remains on the sports lineup for the 2016 Games in Rio de Janeiro.The new sports seeking inclusion in 2020 are squash, wakeboarding, karate, wushu, roller sports and a combined baseball-softball bid. They will all make presentations to the IOC board next Wednesday in St. Petersburg."Then we'll have a debate whether the executive board will present one single sport to the session or whether the executive board would prefer to present a shortlist to the IOC session," Rogge said.The board members will vote by secret ballot on which sport or sports to submit to the IOC assembly in Buenos Aires, Argentina, on Sept. 8.There has been widespread speculation in Olympic circles that the board will recommend a list of three or four sports, including wrestling."My position is very clear," Rogge said. "Everything will happen on merit and respecting the rights of the federations."The IOC decision in February to drop wrestling led to the resignation of FILA president Raphael Martinetti. Nenad Lalovic, who took over in an interim capacity, was elected fulltime president at last Saturday's congress in Moscow.Lalovic "understood there were shortcomings both in governance but also in presentation and appeal of the sport in terms of clarity of the rules of competition and a whole range of issues that they had to change," Rogge said.Under changes approved in Moscow, matches will consist of two 3-minute sessions instead of three 2-minute periods, and scoring will be cumulative instead of the previous two-out-of-three system. FILA also changed its constitution to include a female vice president."They will have an athletes' commission they did not have," Rogge said. "They will have women on board the executive board which they did not have. They will change the length of bouts to make it more clear for the public on the counting of the points. There are also a lot of technical rules that are going to be associated." AP http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_307134/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=WDjch6OZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Maybe this is the way to bring change to Olympic sports, drop them and initiate change and then put them back on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athan Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Wrestling, baseball-softball and squash are the three shortlisted sports. I'm quite surprised with this. If this new procedure to pick the 28th sport was an attempt to renew and update the Olympic programme, the results have gone right the other way. Out of the six sports that could have made their Olympic debut in 2020, only one survives, and judging by how the voting seems to have gone, it doesn't look the favourite right now. I guess all signs point to wrestling retaining its spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox334 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 Wrestling, baseball-softball and squash are the three shortlisted sports. I'm quite surprised with this. If this new procedure to pick the 28th sport was an attempt to renew and update the Olympic programme, the results have gone right the other way. Out of the six sports that could have made their Olympic debut in 2020, only one survives, and judging by how the voting seems to have gone, it doesn't look the favourite right now. I guess all signs point to wrestling retaining its spot. I feel like the process was about protecting people's sacred cows (I am looking at you, Modern Pentathlon) more than doing anything regarding renewing the program. Not to mention than with the huge outcry that followed Wrestling being dropped it would be shocking to not see it come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I don't get it. Wrestling is so boring to watch and it isn't a modern sport by any stretch. It's certainly better than a few sports on the Olympic programme right now imo (synchro, rhythmic gymnastics, mp), but I don't think it was all that much of a loss to the Games tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Not much of a loss? It's one of the Olympics core ancient sports. It's on par to removing any component of T&F like discus. Bring it back, or it sets a bad precedent. Personally, I think the potential exclusion of wrestling is made worse by the inclusion of Golf. I can't wait for that to be axed. Edited May 30, 2013 by runningrings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Not much of a loss? It's one of the Olympics core ancient sports. It's on par to removing any component of T&F like discus. Bring it back, or it sets a bad precedent. Personally, I think the potential exclusion of wrestling is made worse by the inclusion of Golf. I can't wait for that to be axed. all this stuff about wrestling being a traditional Olympic sport. If the Olympics cared that much about traditional sports they wouldn't have added BmX and wouldn't be looking to add 3 on 3 bball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 all this stuff about wrestling being a traditional Olympic sport. If the Olympics cared that much about traditional sports they wouldn't have added BmX and wouldn't be looking to add 3 on 3 bball. Its a delicate balance between youth appeal and ancient history. Its why MP isn't dropped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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