New Wembley Stadium

[Aronious]

i was talking to Michelle. not you mexico

[Michelle]

im not sure about the arch..sorry..i love this stadiumm...but its really necesarry the arch?

Yes!

Are your constant rants necessary?

heck no!

Completely!

ps - who the f!ck are you? get back to me asap.

[Michelle]

I think the arch was necessary, and if it hadnt of been an arch, then something else was needed. Wembley needed an added feature... like the old stadium had its 'twin towers'. The Arch can be lit up in the evenings, which would be spectacular, especially if a game was being played at night.

*note to self : stop ranting*

[Aronious]

ps - who the f!ck are you? get back to me asap.

haha. for you sake, hopefully a figment of your imagination..

i understand you have a lot of enemies on this site, i just want to be one of them.

[Michelle]

ps - who the f!ck are you? get back to me asap.

haha. for you sake, hopefully a figment of your imagination..

i understand you have a lot of enemies on this site, i just want to be one of them.

Enemies on a forum website? wow... I must be famous or something. Seriously, if you consider yourself an enemy of mine, you need to get a life, and fast.

The WWW is affecting your brain.

[Aronious]

ps - who the f!ck are you? get back to me asap.

haha. for you sake, hopefully a figment of your imagination..

i understand you have a lot of enemies on this site, i just want to be one of them.

Enemies on a forum website? wow... I must be famous or something. Seriously, if you consider yourself an enemy of mine, you need to get a life, and fast.

The WWW is affecting your brain.

ha! how did you ever make enemies with comebacks like that.

[Surferdude]

im not sure about the arch..sorry..i love this stadiumm...but its really necesarry the arch?

If you do your homework you will realise that far from being just a decorative though iconic part of the stadium, the arch actually holds up several thousand tonnes of roof (all of the north roof and 60% of the south roof), so that there doesn't need to be supports around the stadium which would obliterate sightlines. Every single seat in the stadium therefore is fully covered and has no sight obstruction. The area per seat is also more than twice that of each seat in the SdF, giving spectators more leg room than most stadiums of comparable capacity.

[Lee]

The new Wembley stadium is due for completion 2006 and will host the Football finals only. Here are some stats:

1. With 90,000 seats the new Wembley will be the largest football stadium in the world with every seat under cover. There will be NO obstructed views.

Ah nope on that one - Estadio Azteca in Mexico City has over 110,000 seats - and while there is no roof as such, the awning does cover the whole seating area.  Obviously as the sun moves across the sky some seats are in direct sublight - but technically they are all covered.  

The new Wembley will be the largest fully enclosed stadium when the roof is closed - but there are at least 3 stadia in Latin America with higher seating capacity.

As for unobstructed views - hundreds of stadiums can claim this.

While it is an impressive stadium, the attached hyperbole is bullsh!t.

First off all I wrote that around 2 and a half months ago and I am surprised you bothered digging that out but to respond I am not really sure if the statement is true or not but here was my source. The New Wembley website.

Wembley

[Aronious]

Digging it out?

That would be preety common knowledge to anyone who has the slightest clue about stadiums around the world.

[Lee]

Digging it out?

That would be preety common knowledge to anyone who has the slightest clue about stadiums around the world.

I was referring to the thread and not the information regarding the stadium.

I am not exactly hanging my head in shame for not knowing the renderings of various stadiums around the world in comparison to Wembley. I very much doubt also that this information is widely known by most members of this board. Just because it is one of your favourite subjects please don't speculate that it is common knowledge.

[michaelb136]

The new Wembley stadium is due for completion 2006 and will host the Football finals only. Here are some stats:

1. With 90,000 seats the new Wembley will be the largest football stadium in the world with every seat under cover. There will be NO obstructed views.

Ah nope on that one - Estadio Azteca in Mexico City has over 110,000 seats - and while there is no roof as such, the awning does cover the whole seating area.  Obviously as the sun moves across the sky some seats are in direct sublight - but technically they are all covered.  

The new Wembley will be the largest fully enclosed stadium when the roof is closed - but there are at least 3 stadia in Latin America with higher seating capacity.

As for unobstructed views - hundreds of stadiums can claim this.

While it is an impressive stadium, the attached hyperbole is bullsh!t.

You may say this, but as far as I know the capacity of these stadiums would be much lower in a FIFA staged event.

The capacities you quote may be true, however, due to health and safety in an international event the capacities have to be drastically cut.

[arwebb]

But probably still bigger than the old stadium.

[English Kev]

As far as I know, the Olympic Stadium is proposed to have a capacity of around 80,000. It would then be scaled down, probably with a view to a football club moving in. I know West Ham have expressed interest in playing there.

London's olympic stadium will be scaled down to a 20,000 seater athletics stadium post olympics . That's what the London 2012 website says anyway .

[Lee]

As far as I know, the Olympic Stadium is proposed to have a capacity of around 80,000. It would then be scaled down, probably with a view to a football club moving in. I know West Ham have expressed interest in playing there.

London's olympic stadium will be scaled down to a 20,000 seater athletics stadium post olympics . That's what the London 2012 website says anyway .

Arwebbs comment was made quite a few months ago when the situation was still unclear.

[Mick The Mick]

As far as I know, the Olympic Stadium is proposed to have a capacity of around 80,000. It would then be scaled down, probably with a view to a football club moving in. I know West Ham have expressed interest in playing there.

London's olympic stadium will be scaled down to a 20,000 seater athletics stadium post olympics . That's what the London 2012 website says anyway .

This, I believe, is still the official story ... the argument being that it would appeal to the IOC to have a permanent athletics venue in London.

But I just don't buy the official story ... what's the logic in downscaling a major stadium (at what cost?), that could then never be used again for a major championship (IAAF, Europeans, Commonwealths) and would only really be filled once or twice a year? Why not keep it as it is and offer it on a reasonable commercial basis to at least one of the two major football clubs in the vicinity.

Maybe the IOC would prefer it ... but they haven't criticised Madrid for the proposed move of Atletico to the Olympic stadium, so why would they get bothered if London did something similar

I personally think Spurs are the more likely candidate between them and West Ham - they need to expand from their present site, but won't do so unless London Transport radically improve the transport links ... If Ken has a stadium to flog, he won't be approving a tube extension to WHL any time soon! Still, you'll have to convince the Spurs fans that it's a good deal to watch football with an athletics track between you and the action ...

On a similar vein, why aren't they looking to bring a lower tier footie club (eg Leyton Orient) or a rugby team (eg Saracens) into using the facilities alongside - the main hockey stadium could easily be used post-games.

[arwebb]

I would still prefer a combination of the two options, were that to be possible.

[PddyRck2012]

Don't know whether you guys have checked it out but at the Foster and Partners (the designers of the new Wembley) website there are some really cool little videos. One basically animates the stadium, really bringing it to life and gives a really good sense of what the atmosphere would be like. The other superimposes the new stadium over the old one, the old stadium was big, the new one is huge!

http://www.fosterandpartners.com/InternetS...tml/simple.html

It's under Projects>>Alphabetical>>Wembley

[Lee]

Don't know whether you guys have checked it out but at the Foster and Partners (the designers of the new Wembley) website there are some really cool little videos. One basically animates the stadium, really bringing it to life and gives a really good sense of what the atmosphere would be like. The other superimposes the new stadium over the old one, the old stadium was big, the new one is huge!

http://www.fosterandpartners.com/InternetS...tml/simple.html

It's under Projects>>Alphabetical>>Wembley

Pddyrck2012, Thanks for the link. I haven't seen that before.

Very impressive!

[PddyRck2012]

The wonders of CGI eh?

It's interesting that the first video shows the stadium with an athletics track. I thought that was what there was all the hoo ha about when it was being commissioned: after the government cut all funding, the F.A. decided to get rid of the athletics track because they were having to fund it themselves and didn't want the extra expense of an athletics track. Strange.

Still it's going to be an amazing stadium. And the fact that it's going to be finished before schedule and on budget should lay to rest the IOC's fears of London's track record with these sorts of projects (need I mention the dome?).

[Lee]

The wonders of CGI eh?

It's interesting that the first video shows the stadium with an athletics track. I thought that was what there was all the hoo ha about when it was being commissioned: after the government cut all funding, the F.A. decided to get rid of the athletics track because they were having to fund it themselves and didn't want the extra expense of an athletics track. Strange.

Still it's going to be an amazing stadium. And the fact that it's going to be finished before schedule and on budget should lay to rest the IOC's fears of London's track record with these sorts of projects (need I mention the dome?).

NEVER mention the Dome on here..it's a swear word.  

I was also abit confused as to why they decided to show an Athletics track in the New Wembley. It is the first time that I have seen the design incorporating a track and was interesting to see.

I still can't believe that the super-imposed shots of Old and New Wembley are accurate. The Old Wembley wasn't exactly small to say the least and the New Wembley looks as though it dwarfs the Old one. I can't wait for it to be finished and I will be standing by my phone to book tickets for the first game if I can.

[PddyRck2012]

Although.. I do like the way it's being incorporated into London's bid. Admitedly it would be better if it wasn't owned by a German company, but hey, we can't have everything. Did you har about it being renamed "tho O2 bubble"?

Yeah, the scale of the new Wembley is simply awesome. And the arch is absolutely humongous, it looks spectacular as part of London's skyline, especially when lit up at night.

[Robert Henson]

LOL, good luck Mallaka, I think you'll need it.

"The sheer scale of the new Wembley is dizzying: towering up towards the sky, the stands loom majestically around the central space. It's so vast that it could absorb the old structure something like three times over. I haven't seen a venue this impressive since Ridley Scott's spectacular CGI version of the Roman Coliseum in his film Gladiator.

Twice the size of Paris's Stade de France and three times the size of the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, new Wembley is conceived on a gigantic scale."

We will rock you (as will the loos) - Daily Telegraph 14th April 2005

In short, it's going to be BRILLIANT!!

[Robert Henson]

Also, go here and click on Virtual Tour

[Lee]

Robert, of course you are right but I will still be trying to get a ticket. Even if I have to beat up a small child or pensioner.  

[arwebb]

Ah yes, the famous platform for athletics. That, presumably, is still in place for if London were to bid with Wembley for a World Athletics Championships.