arwebb Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Wembley has been put forward by the FA to stage the 2008 Champions League final.Wembley in 2008 Euro final race Wembley will host for sure champions league final (and maybe world cup) in the future but not 2008. Most likely 2009 or 2010 because i can 't see it winning anything before it is finsihed. Munich will win 2008 with their new arena IMO. the UEFA never give finals to stadium that aren t finish. With olympics and world cup the stadium has 6 years to be finish but a UEFA final it s in two years,if the construction takes more time (and it always do)or any accident occure UEFA will be in trouble so they always choose finshed stadium . Assuming, of course, that Wembley isn't finished by October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexaus Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 For all the criticism Athens got from the British press, I find it highly amusing that a world super power like the UK cannot get a bloody stadium fixed without such enormous delay and without it falling around them. Honestly...if this is the image being projected to the world it is a good thing that 2012 is so far away... and remember for all the doom and gloom about a small country like Greece, the work in Athens did not start until after 2000 so they got everything ready in less than four years. The Wembley stadium is taking longer than this in London... I have this image of the Monty Python crew in charge of the event which is quite amusing really... with soccer hooligans and workmen in the opening ceremony... with pieces of the new stadium falling everywhere. :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Good for you. Remember that it's the ozzies who were put in charge of the building work though. :: When it's finished it will be the best stadium in the world. The delays will soon be forgotten. I can't wait. Besides, Multiplex won't be building the Olympic facilities; they pulled out of the tendering process - thank God. We need a more reliable company to get our Olympic arenas ready. I read an article the other day suggesting the main reason for the delay was the fact that nothing on the scale of Wembley had ever been attempted before. The Olympics should not pose such problems as the stadium will be a lot simpler and standard design-wise; they're making sure of that precisely because of the problems encountered at Wembley. Getting a few arenas up shouldn't be a problem either. Many things will be going on simultaneously to get the Olympic park ready, but none of them anywhere near as complex as what is going on at Wembley. I'm confident it'll be alright..a bit of optimism wouldn't go amiss! Here's the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 I was just wondering when Britain became a superpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 I was just wondering when Britain became a superpower. I suppose between 1790 - 1914, a little early to have any baring on the new Wembley Stadium. I find it really funny that an Australian has the nerve to criticise the delays at Wembley as it is one of their construction companies that have really screwed everything up and are paying a huge financial penalty as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Why let that fact get in the way of having a pop at Wembley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 For all the criticism Athens got from the British press, I find it highly amusing that a world super power like the UK cannot get a bloody stadium fixed without such enormous delay and without it falling around them. Honestly...if this is the image being projected to the world it is a good thing that 2012 is so far away... and remember for all the doom and gloom about a small country like Greece, the work in Athens did not start until after 2000 so they got everything ready in less than four years. The Wembley stadium is taking longer than this in London... I have this image of the Monty Python crew in charge of the event which is quite amusing really... with soccer hooligans and workmen in the opening ceremony... with pieces of the new stadium falling everywhere. :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: A world superpower? I think the UK ceased to be one of those around 1945. But thanks for the compliment anyway! I agree with you about these tiresome delays and construction faults in getting the new Wembley off the ground.But,hey,I suppose that's what you get for employing an Australian firm (Multiplex) to do it for you! We'll know better next time!! I rather like your idea of the Monty Python theme for the opening ceremony though! They could reprise the Australian sketch with the contractors sitting around,swilling cans of Foster's lager,dressed in shorts and wide brimmed hats with corks dangling,addressing each other as Bruce while their newly built stadium falls down around them! Just when the last one has been knocked out cold by the last piece of falling masonry,a giant foot could descend from the sky,squash the whole lot with a loud raspberry and then the scene could immediately cut away to John Cleese,sitting at a desk nearby and calmly announcing," And now for something completely different!" It's growing on me,it could work!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 It's a goer, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Perhaps one could trace the mishap and delays of Wembley due to the dumping of the Parthenon marbles (Greek) that considerably weakened the soil around the site, that was first trudged upon by the ancient Romans? :wwww: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Interesting theory. You never know - the Big Bang may have cursed the whole place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Perhaps one could trace the mishap and delays of Wembley due to the dumping of the Parthenon marbles (Greek) that considerably weakened the soil around the site, that was first trudged upon by the ancient Romans? :wwww: Could be that unbeknownst to everybody, the new Wembley is being built over the site of an ancient Olympic stadium where the track events for Londinium AD 212 were once held! And this has been causing some of the structural problems! In which case,there will probably be even MORE delays while the historians and archaeologists pore over the site to reveal details of this exciting new find to an incredulous outside world!! Sigh! :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Oh dear, it gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Bianchi Morley, the guys responsible for the Wembley "ARCH" concept, might be on the team to design the Cape Town 70,000 stadium, with retractable roof for the 2010 World Cup and the future "cape town olympic stadium". This same team if successfull would include Stephen Morley, the guy the IOC insists inspects all Olympic venues. He made sure the athens 2004 roof did not collapse onto the old stadium bowl. No multiplex though for cape town!!! thank the lord...lets see if we can build a stadium in half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexaus Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 It is not the Multiplex's fault that the British labour used for the construction of the stadium may not be world class.... all the structures they have made elsewhere are secure and still standing....and when I said the UK was a "world super power," I meant "financial power." Our Melbourne Cricket Ground was redeveloped (by an Australian Company) in stages with football matches still being played there over the last 2 and a half years with limited disruption. This was half of the 100,000 seater stadium... I seem to recall troubles during the building of the millenium dome as well and also that eye in London .... there is always some sort of drama with any large scale project over there... And yet everyone hounded the Athens Games til the end about such things as the swimming pool not having a roof.... who needs a roof in Greece for a pool when the sun is out all day anyway... It's easy to dish out the criticism but hard to take it isn't it? Maybe Zeus is planning a revenge attack with his thunderbolts during the 2012 games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 The Dome was a financial mess. It was built on time and is a great building which will find its way soon. The Eye had one problem from what I recall, and that was a little bit of trouble getting it from horizotal to vertical. Apart from that I don't remember too much drama. Athens got it done on time, fair play to them. But they also spent about 5-10% of their GDP on the project. And several workers died in Greece working on their Olympic facilities. And what of all the projects that the Brits have carried out succesfully.....The Commonwealth Games? Many brand new football stadia the largest of which, Arsenal's new 60,000 seater is coming along quite nicely? Buildings like the Gurkin in London which appeared with no fuss and are no icons in the London skyline? One accident at Wembley hardly justifies your kind of critisim becuase the British labour force is actually pretty good at getting things done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Franz Beckenbauer stepped inside the new Wembley and hailed it as the best stadium in the world. Beckenbauer joined other legends from the 1966 World Cup final to have a sneak preview of the brand new 90,000-seater venue, which is nearing completion in north London. Sir Bobby Charlton was among the former England stars also present on a day designed to honour the heroes of 1966. Beckenbauer said: "The construction itself is very impressive. It is beautiful. It is another world. "It is completely different from the old Wembley I remember but when it is finished in a few months it will be the best stadium in the world. "Before I stepped inside I thought the best stadium was the new one in Munich (the Allianz Arena) but now I have changed my mind." The Wembley visit went ahead despite a drama surrounding the roof on Monday. One of the metal roof supports slipped and the stadium had to be evacuated but workers were back on site on Tuesday to cheer Beckenbauer, Charlton and their former team-mates into the arena in the team bus used by the current England team. They were told how the pitch had been moved slightly from the days when they played on the hallowed turf and that the construction itself is three times bigger than the old stadium. Charlton said: "The first thing I thought was that I would love to play here. It's a football stadium and it's been designed properly so the fans are not far away from the action. "It goes up steeply and it will create a terrific atmosphere. "It will be an inspiration for the players. It's like a stage for football and where better to play. "With Wembley and its history I expected it to be good and I wasn't disappointed." The former players left Wembley and drove to Downing Street for lunch inside No 11 with Chancellor Gordon Brown, England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson and the chief executive of the Football Association Brian Barwick. The England players present along with Sir Bobby Charlton were his brother Jack, Gordon Banks, George Cohen, Martin Peters and Roger Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 It is not the Multiplex's fault that the British labour used for the construction of the stadium may not be world class.... all the structures they have made elsewhere are secure and still standing....and when I said the UK was a "world super power," I meant "financial power." Our Melbourne Cricket Ground was redeveloped (by an Australian Company) in stages with football matches still being played there over the last 2 and a half years with limited disruption. This was half of the 100,000 seater stadium... I seem to recall troubles during the building of the millenium dome as well and also that eye in London .... there is always some sort of drama with any large scale project over there... And yet everyone hounded the Athens Games til the end about such things as the swimming pool not having a roof.... who needs a roof in Greece for a pool when the sun is out all day anyway... It's easy to dish out the criticism but hard to take it isn't it? Maybe Zeus is planning a revenge attack with his thunderbolts during the 2012 games... Well,British labourers have been putting up buildings in London now for close on a thousand years! I think Westminster Abbey,The Tower of London,Saint Paul's Cathedral,the Houses of Parliament etc.etc.have stood the test of time,don't you? Major constructions cause the odd difficulty and delay in pretty nearly every country in the world.I seem to recall there were plenty of delays and arguments in the building of one of your country's most famous icons,Sydney Opera House! Why do you feel the need to single out the UK? Judging by your repeated references to Athens 2004,would I be correct in guessing that you are Greek-Australian? If so,I would like to point out that this "Brit" for one thinks Greece did a fine job in putting together the 2004 Olympics Games and our papers no doubt exaggerated when talking about the supposed difficulties.But that's the British press for you I'm afraid-prone to exaggeration.But doesn't it occur to you that if they exaggerated about the difficulties with Athens 2004,they are just as likely to be exaggerating the difficulties with London 2012.Believe me,expect more of the same and worse between now and 2012,but I would suggest you try to treat it with the same degree of scepticism and caution that you felt when they were taking pot-shots at Athens 2004! And I feel sure the great god Zeus will remember that there were more visitors from Britain to cheer on the athletes in Athens than from any other country (maybe including Greece?) so I trust he will look down more kindly on the events in London in 2012 and keep his thunderbolts safely under lock and key! :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 It was promised to FINA and requested by the broadcasters. - Like an enclosed speedskating track, an enclosed natatorium alleviates many of the imponderables the broadcasters have to contend with. - Also, the swimmers when they have to turn vs. wherever the sun is, are blinded for a moment and have to re-orient themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 I don't know whether it affected the swimmers in the end and it certinaly didn't affect the quality of the broadcasts, but the roofless pool was one of the best venues imho. I'm quite happy they ran out of time/money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Were the times comparable to Sydney, as I had an impression we were seeing slower times in Athens than in 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 - Also, the swimmers when they have to turn vs. wherever the sun is, are blinded for a moment and have to re-orient themselves. ADDENDUM: Especially in the backstroke, when the swimmers are upright, face up to the sky. And not all of them wear the dark goggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexaus Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 There still were several world records broken in the pool - our Jodie Henry 100m, the Aussie girls 4x100 metre relay team and the men's 4x100m and South Africa's 100metre team from memory and I think there were several more. At any rate I was only pointing out some of the irony that this stadium has regarding the doom and gloom that was being reported in the press regarding getting venues ready on time etc. I actually remember reading articles that cast doubt about the stadium in Athens and that there could be falling shards of glass during the games and things like that- I am sure it was from the British Press and if I find it I will post it. That is what prompted me to respond. Don't take it so seriously - I am only having a sarcastic go at you all. Gee, what happened to that world renowned quirky british sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Sarcasm/wit doesn't always come across as you'd intend over ther net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Don't take it so seriously - I am only having a sarcastic go at you all. Gee, what happened to that world renowned quirky british sense of humour. Well,I thought were WERE displaying that quirky British sense of humour in our responses to you,those of us who are Brits anyway.Well at least I was! Never mind,as Rob says,humour can often get lost in translation-especially in cyberspace! Let's make a deal.We'll try to improve on our quirky sense of humour if you can manage to say a few nice things about London and our new Wembley! What do you say? :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexaus Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 "a few nice things about London and our new Wembley! What do you say?" :wwww: :wwww: :wwww: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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