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  1. 1. Should Blatter resign?

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  2. 2. Should the elections for 2018 and 2022 be repeated?

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    • No, but the country, which bidded but lost, should host the next ones
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  3. 3. Should the bribery scandal be investigated by public authorities?

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To return to the actual question: FIFA should admit its failure and completely dissolve.

I'm usually not one to completely give up on existing structures, but this is a different case. With major personalities of the current organization under investigation and the multiple incentives FOR corruption, I think that this system is quite simply beyond repair and reform. FIFA is unlikely to recover public trust and sympathies - and Issa Hayatou isn't exactly a poster boy for effective modernization either, and neither are the candidates for the Blatter succession that we're aware of.

So, time for FIFA to be completely shut down, marked as a criminal organization like the Cosa Nostra, the Mafia or the Chinese Triads, its leaders to be fully prosecuted and the World Cup to be put on hiatus for the foreseeable future. There will still be the continental federations around, and maybe these too will need to undergo radical reform.

But for world football to survive, completely new structures will be required. They will need to be less egalitarian: FAs like England, Germany, France, Brazil, Argentina and Spain should be given more votes and more influence in the new organization's decision-making bodies, as they have actually contributed much more to world football than FAs like Trinidad & Tobago, Uganda and Vatican City. The new structures will also need to be more transparent: Sharp term limits need to be imposed on all office-holders, lest we end up with another Blatter and Havelange on top. I'd also be in favour to give sponsors and recognized fan associations a share of control over the new footballing regime. The new structures also needs to embrace sustainability: No more World Cups in countries whose ideas/policies are wholly incompatible with the very idea of friendly cooperation across borders; and no more World Cups in countries with little to no footballing infrastructure (no more Qatar).

The World Cup should be scaled down, to permit less nations to actually qualify and - I'd envisage a near-equal number of entrants from each continental federation - 1 for the reigning world champion, 6 for Europe, 6 for The Americas/Caribbean, 4 for Africa, 4 for Asia/Oceania. Of the 21 countries, only the top 8 would be permitted to advance into the next round, leading up to the final (third-place match would be eliminated entirely, as it's a complete waste of resources, time and money).

The advantages of such a proposal? The World Cup would become more manageable, more meaningful and much more easy (and less expensive to host). The new IFA (International Football Association) should encourage sustainability and prefer countries with existing stadiums and good highway networks. Decisions regarding the hosting rights should be handed over to a new IFA Assembly, made up of member FAs (once again, with weighted voting rights), major sponsors, fan grouping and professional footballers. An evaluation phase would cull any undesirable candidates, whilst the broad electorate of said IFA Assembly would make corrupt deals much more difficult (as opposed to the current Executive Committee setup).

Besides organizing the World Cup, IFA should deal with supporting football (youth, amateur and professional) in developing football nations, assisting with the organization of professional leagues and stadium infrastructure with advice. The commercial side of things should be handled by a completely different commercial rights company, walled off from the IFA via strict rules regarding the employment/contracting of relatives, friends, associates etc. Just a few reforms, but I think they'd return football to where it belongs.

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so the english press like to speculate a lot but as baron asked, when will we see the "smoking gun" documents? where are all the documents proving their accusations? Do they have it? Come on... This

Or Tony, you could *not* go on. That would be better, wouldn't it?

Shut the hell up. Honestly. Just shut up and leave.

Ooh...just seen this tweet from Andrew Jennings. New FIFA documentary by him being aired Monday...

Only 3 days to wait . . . BBC 1, 8.30, Monday. The truth about Sepp & Me. 60mins of laughter, seriousness . . . and why he is going to jail!

https://twitter.com/AAndrewJennings

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I agree FIFA needs to be disbanded, handed over to an independent professional organisation whilst it is remade from the ground up.

Expanding the number of World Cup teams to 40 is crazy in this era of escalating costs, and fan fatigue. How long would the tournament be then- 6 weeks???

If there isn't any fan fatigue from Rugby being 6+ weeks long, then it shouldn't be an issue for football. However, expanding it is just plain stupid and pointless. It's perfect with the number of teams they have right now.

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But for world football to survive, completely new structures will be required. They will need to be less egalitarian: FAs like England, Germany, France, Brazil, Argentina and Spain should be given more votes and more influence in the new organization's decision-making bodies, as they have actually contributed much more to world football than FAs like Trinidad & Tobago, Uganda and Vatican City.

And this is why it is nearly impossible to reform either FIFA or the IOC.

Western democracies may not be happy with the way these global bodies are being run, but they make up a minority of the world's population and number of countries. If we really believe in equality and the democratic principle, that means we have to give representation to countries like Qatar, Russia, China, Kazakhstan, etc.

Beyond that it is more a bit hypocritical for the USA, Germany, etc to complain about corruption when they themselves have been involved in it.

I detest Qatar and FIFA, but we need to accept that these are international bodies and that means accepting that countries whose contributions to sport are small or have authoritarian governments matter too.

If there isn't any fan fatigue from Rugby being 6+ weeks long, then it shouldn't be an issue for football. However, expanding it is just plain stupid and pointless. It's perfect with the number of teams they have right now.

The difference is that club rugby is not nearly as lucrative as club football/soccer. The teams that play the players wages are going to lose out on many millions of euros/pounds/dollars a year because of this change.

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French Sunday paper publishes 1998 internal UEFA memo to FIFA which includes reference to payment agreement between Platini and FIFA.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/35020279

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1032301/hope-for-platini-but-new-us-department-of-justice-indictment-keeps-heat-on-leading-fifa-officials

French newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche has published a memo today which it says was presented to UEFA Executive Committee members in November 1998 and recorded the fact that Platini was being paid CH1 million (£664,000/$1 million/€923,000) a year for work he was doing for FIFA.

Platini's lawyer Thomas Clay called the 23-page document "important evidence".

"From the moment that we have proof of an agreement between FIFA and Mr Platini, and of knowledge of this agreement by officials of UEFA, then this inquiry falls down," he told news agency Reuters.

"For us, it's very important evidence that Mr Platini has always been telling the truth.

"It shows that the contract did not have any sort of secret character and that many people, including those in UEFA and FIFA, have known about it since 1998."

So they knew about that agreement all the time!

Hard cheese Splatter!

And better luck next time you son of a b****!!!

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Ooh...just seen this tweet from Andrew Jennings. New FIFA documentary by him being aired Monday...

Only 3 days to wait . . . BBC 1, 8.30, Monday. The truth about Sepp & Me. 60mins of laughter, seriousness . . . and why he is going to jail!

https://twitter.com/AAndrewJennings

it was well worth a watch, but the amount of corruption and corrupt officials Jennings describes are so numerable that it becomes a blur.

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Good god...the amount of bribery & number of corrupt people is so huge that it'd be totally impossible to produce something clean from any ashes of FIFA. There really can't be any choice but to shut it down & start from zero.

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Jerome Valcke: Fifa sacks secretary general

World football's governing body Fifa has dismissed general secretary Jerome Valcke.

The Frenchman, 55, was already banned from football for his alleged involvement in a scheme to profit from the sale of World Cup tickets.

He was provisionally suspended on 17 September after being accused of a series of Fifa ethics code breaches.

Appointed in 2007, the former right-hand man of Fifa president Sepp Blatter has denied any wrongdoing.

"The duties of the secretary general will continue to be assumed by the acting secretary general, Dr Markus Kattner," read a Fifa statement.

Fifa's ethics committee said on 7 January that it had decided to open "formal adjudicatory proceedings" against Valcke after studying a report submitted by its investigatory chamber.

He has also been accused of being party to a potential $10m (£6.8m) bribe paid to Jack Warner, the former head of the North and Central America football governing body Concacaf, in return for his vote and backing to South Africa's successful bid to host the 2010 World Cup.

Fifa's ethics committee has already recommended that Valcke should be banned from all footballing activities for nine years.

Blatter and vice-president Michel Platini were both suspended for eight years in December following a Fifa ethics investigation.

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Infantino Seeks Regional World Cup If Elected FIFA President

The World Cup could be spread across entire regions, emulating the continent-wide 2020 European Championship, if Gianni Infantino wins next month's FIFA presidential election.

The UEFA secretary general used his manifesto, which was published Tuesday, to say FIFA should not limit the tournament to be being held in one or two countries. The 2002 World Cup in Japan and South Korea is the only time the event has been co-hosted.

Infantino, working alongside Michel Platini at UEFA, spearheaded spreading Euro 2020 across 13 countries.

In November, Infantino told The Associated Press of his plan to expand the World Cup to 40 teams. Allowing several countries to stage matches in about a dozen stadiums would ensure the tournament is not limited to just a few wealthy potential hosts.

"FIFA should investigate the possibility of organizing the World Cup not only in one or two countries but in a whole region, so enabling several countries to enjoy the honor and benefits of hosting the World Cup," Infantino's manifesto says.

The first World Cup bidding after the Feb. 26 election is for the 2026 tournament. The launch of the contest has been stalled since last year when FIFA was swept up in a global soccer corruption scandal, which led to Sepp Blatter announcing plans to quit before being banned.

Infantino, who is Swiss, is one of five presidential candidates currently seeking votes from FIFA's 209 member associations.

In an attempt to entice federations, Infantino is also offering them a greater share of FIFA's wealth, saying a "proper risk analysis must be conducted" into whether the governing body requires cash reserves as high as $1.5 billion.

Each of FIFA's members will be offered $5 million to invest in development projects and running costs — a huge increase on the $2.05 million per federation 2011-2014 — and another $1 million, if required, for travel, which would be attractive to small nations in remote regions.

Additionally, each of the six confederations will be handed $40 million to invest in development projects and their regional offshoots in Asia, Africa, the Caribbean and Central America can request another $4 million to organize youth tournaments.

The amounts are all within a four-year cycle.

"If the target of 50 percent of distribution of FIFA's income is reached, these amounts will further increase significantly," Infantino said.

Infantino only entered the race after Platini, his boss at European governing body UEFA, was initially suspended by FIFA in October before being handed an eight-year ban last month.

Distancing himself from Platini, who blocked high-tech goal-line aids being used in the Champions League, Infantino champions expanding technology in the game.

"FIFA shall start an open debate with all stakeholders on the further use of technology in the game," the manifesto says. "Proposals should be fully tested and the potential impact on the flow of the game should be studied in detail. Finally, this has to be an objective assessment based on the best interests of football."

The International Football Association Board is already preparing to approve trials with a type of video replay system for referees.

One idea Infantino proposes, which seems unique in an election campaign with few differences between the candidates, is starting a globe-trotting team of the game's greats. Legends games, organized by third-parties, have attracted big crowds in recent years.

Infantino envisages that the FIFA Legends Team would organize matches "against local line-ups throughout all continents to promote football, social projects and charitable aims."

"Players who wish to give something back to the world of football should be positively encouraged to do so and FIFA should provide a platform for them," writes Infantino, who is best known to soccer fans as the face of Champions League draws.

The 45-year-old Infantino, a lawyer who has risen to UEFA's top administrative job since joining in 2000, was born in the Swiss town of Brig — close to Blatter's birth place of Visp.

For the FIFA presidency, Infantino is competing against Asian Football Confederation President Sheikh Salman bin Ibrahim al Khalifa of Bahrain, former FIFA vice president Prince Ali bin al-Hussein of Jordan, former FIFA official Jerome Champagne and South African businessman Tokyo Sexwale.

AP

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/infantino-seeks-regional-world-cup-elected-fifa-president-36371471

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Agree that FIFA needs to be dissolved at this point. Keep an eye on the election. If either Sheikh Salman or Prince Ali is elected, whatever slim chance there was of striping the 2022 World Cup from Qatar will be long gone. There's absolutely no way, no matter the evidence, that a Muslim from the Arab World will back the idea. The political fallout would be disastrous.

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Agree that FIFA needs to be dissolved at this point. Keep an eye on the election. If either Sheikh Salman or Prince Ali is elected, whatever slim chance there was of striping the 2022 World Cup from Qatar will be long gone. There's absolutely no way, no matter the evidence, that a Muslim from the Arab World will back the idea. The political fallout would be disastrous.

I think it would be better for a Muslim FIFA President to announce the end of Qatar, as the anti-Muslim allegations which would indeed pop up could be dismissed easier.

Then again, I don't believe any of the candidates is interested in stripping Qatar of 2022.

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Then again, I don't believe any of the candidates is interested in stripping Qatar of 2022.

This is the problem though I still think that an election of a Muslim to the presidency ends even a glimmer of hope of stripping Qatar. The problem is striping Qatar would be like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. Qatar along with the head of OCA has said that all allegations against Qatar are racial. They've already played that card. Imagine what Qatar and the rest of the Arab World would do if the tournament was stripped. It'd be a disaster. My guess is something along the following.

1. The Arab members of FIFA and possibly other Muslim countries such as Indonesia, Pakistan, and Malaysia immediately announce a boycott of FIFA. In protest, the stage an Islamic Cup at the same time as the World Cup. The entire Arab World is backing Qatar already.

2. Qatar sues FIFA in the Court of Arbitration for Sport with the goal of basically bankrupting FIFA through legal fees and they press their case entirely on the race card.

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1) Which nobody in the football world would notice - how many viewers would watch an Islamic cup, where the main countries would be Iran, Algeria, Morocco etc over a World Cup with Brazil, Germany, Spain et al?

2) Which would be glorious, as a bankrupt FIFA is a dissolved FIFA. If Qatar wins that case, it would be a perfect trigger for starting a new body.

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A tournament organized by Arab and Islamic countries certainly wouldn't be high on the watching list and I think countries like Qatar, Saudi, UAE would know that. I think it would be done more as a protest and intentions to say that FIFA is no longer the legitimate governing body of football, their way of saying Qatar won the right to host and then was denied the opportunity based on anti-Arab and anti-Islamic sentiments. Then again, it's hardly legitimate nowadays. I think the Arabs would use it along with their court battle against FIFA with the ultimate goal of bankrupting it forcing a new governing body for football to be built from the ground up. I'd also speculate if the above were to occur and especially if it became clear FIFA was in a losing battle, you might see groups like UEFA and CONMEBOL withdraw from FIFA and announce plans to replace FIFA. Sort of a doomsday scenario and unlikely.

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FIFA admits to World Cup hosting bribes, asks US for cash

GENEVA (AP) — While acknowledging for the first time that votes were bought in past World Cup hosting contests, FIFA is seeking to claim "tens of millions of dollars" in bribe money seized by U.S. federal prosecutors.

FIFA submitted a 22-page claim to the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York on Tuesday that seeks a big share in restitution from more than $190 million already forfeited by soccer and marketing officials who pleaded guilty in the sprawling corruption case.

Tens of millions of dollars more is likely to be collected by U.S. authorities when sentences are handed down, and from dozens of officials currently indicted but who have denied bribery charges or are fighting extradition.

FIFA claims it is the victim of corrupt individuals, despite widespread criticism that bribe-taking was embedded in its culture in the presidencies of Joao Havelange and Sepp Blatter, who was forced from office after 17 years by the current scandal.

"The convicted defendants abused the positions of trust they held at FIFA and other international football organizations and caused serious and lasting damage to FIFA," FIFA President Gianni Infantino said Wednesday in a statement. "The monies they pocketed belonged to global football and were meant for the development and promotion of the game. FIFA as the world governing body of football wants that money back and we are determined to get it no matter how long it takes."

In documents seen by The Associated Press, FIFA asks for:

— $28.2 million for years of payments, including bonuses, flights and daily expenses, to officials it now says are corrupt

— $10 million for the "theft" of money that FIFA officials transferred as bribes to then-executive committee members to vote for South Africa as 2010 World Cup host

— "substantial" cost of legal bills since separate U.S. and Swiss federal probes of corruption in international soccer were revealed last May

— damages for harm to its reputation, plus other bribes and kickbacks for media rights to non-FIFA competitions but "which were made possible because of the value of the FIFA brand"

"FIFA has become notable for the defendants' bribery and corruption, not its many good works," lawyers for soccer's world body state in the claim. "FIFA is entitled to restitution for this harm to its business relationships, reputation and intangible property."

FIFA's grab for a share of the money sets up a battle with two of its regional confederations — CONMEBOL, the South American confederation, and CONCACAF, the body running soccer in North America. It was officials and competitions from those regions that were most involved in the corruption crisis.

It also signals a change in strategy for FIFA, after months of senior officials distancing Zurich from the scandal, instead blaming confederations which are beyond its control.

Most of the already seized money — $151.7 million — will come from Brazilian marketing executive Jose Hawilla, whose group of agencies were heavily involved with matches CONCACAF and CONMEBOL controlled but not FIFA directly.

In an initial claim for $28.2 million, FIFA specifies an amount for each of 20 men from the Americas over many years that it says it should be repaid from money held by U.S. authorities.

FIFA wants more than $5.3 million it spent on Chuck Blazer, the disgraced American official who has pleaded guilty, allocates $4.4 million of its claim for former FIFA vice president Jack Warner, and $3.5 million for Ricardo Teixeira, Havelange's former son-in-law form Brazil.

Warner, a long-time powerbroker from Trinidad and Tobago until resigning in a 2011 election bribery scandal, is identified by FIFA in its 22-page claim for receiving a $1 million bribe from 1998 World Cup bid candidate Morocco, and ensuring the $10 million bribe from South Africa was paid via a FIFA account in 2008.

FIFA claims a further $2 million for payments to Jeffrey Webb, the Cayman Islands banker who was arrested at a luxury Zurich hotel last May, and now lives at his home near Atlanta, Georgia, awaiting sentence in June.

"These dollars were meant to build football fields, not mansions and pools; to buy football kits, not jewelry and cars; and to fund youth player and coach development, not to underwrite lavish lifestyles for football and sports marketing executives," Infantino said.

It is unclear how much influence Infantino, a former lawyer, had had in the restitution claim since he was elected only three weeks ago, with strong support from voters in the Americas.

Infantino's signature pitch to voters on election day was about finances, saying bluntly "It's your money." That resonated with members of CONMEBOL and CONCACAF, who have had a combined $20 million central funding frozen by FIFA.

CONCACAF, based in Miami, has had its past three presidents implicated in the U.S. case. But it has passed wide-ranging reforms to clean up its operations, and has targeted restitution money to rebuild.

"CONCACAF views itself as a victim of a number of the offenses described in the indictments and intends to seek restitution at the appropriate time," the regional body said in a statement.

AP

http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/d6b109be578c49b7bcf8d542daf5c158/fifa-admits-world-cup-hosting-bribes-asks-us-cash

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Michel Platini: Uefa president to resign after ban appeal fails

Uefa president Michel Platini will resign from European football's governing body after failing to have a six-year ban from football overturned.

A Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) panel reduced the ban to four years on Monday.

Following the judgement, the 60-year-old said he would be stepping down.

Platini and former Fifa counterpart Sepp Blatter, were last year found guilty of ethics breaches over a 2m Swiss Franc (£1.3m) "disloyal payment".

The pair, who deny wrongdoing, had their original bans reduced from eight to six years by the Fifa appeals committee.

Platini had taken his case to Cas seeking to get the ban overturned, but a three-man panel said it "was not convinced by the legitimacy of the payment".

The two said the payment in 2011 was made for consultancy work Platini had carried out for Blatter between 1998 and 2002, and that they had a "gentleman's agreement" on when the balance was settled.

The matter is also being looked into by Swiss prosecutors.

After Cas returned its judgement, Platini said in a statement: "I am resigning from my duties as Uefa president to pursue my battle in front of the Swiss courts to prove my innocence in this case."

He added that he considered the judgement "a profound injustice".

However, the Cas panel was damning of Platini, saying his "behaviour was not ethical or loyal".

It found his dealings with Blatter had breached the ethics code of world governing body Fifa, and while his six-year ban was "too severe", it decided a four-year punishment should be handed down - the equivalent to a presidential term in office.

It also said an 80,000 Swiss Franc (£57,200) fine should be lowered to 60,000 (£42,900), but stressed: "The Cas panel was of the opinion that a severe sanction could be justified in view of the superior functions carried out by Mr Platini (Fifa vice-president and Uefa president), the absence of any repentance and the impact that this matter has had on Fifa's reputation."

Uefa said it would meet on 18 May "to discuss next steps".

"In the meantime, there will be no Uefa president appointed ad interim," it added.

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FIFA appoints UN official as 1st female secretary general

MEXICO CITY (AP) — FIFA broke new ground by appointing a Senegalese United Nations official as its first female and first non-European secretary general on Friday.

Fatma Samoura has no experience working in sports but FIFA President Gianni Infantino hopes that will help it try to regain the trust and credibility of the world.

"We want to embrace diversity and we believe in gender equality," Infantino told the FIFA Congress in Mexico City.

The 54-year-old Samoura, who will replace the fired Jerome Valcke if she passes an eligibility check, is currently working in development for the U.N. in Nigeria.

"She is used to managing big organizations, big budgets, human resources, finance," Infantino told FIFA's membership. "She will bring a fresh wind to FIFA — somebody from outside not somebody from inside, not somebody from the past. Somebody new, somebody who can help us do the right thing in the future."

Samoura, who speaks French, English, Spanish, and Italian, appears to have no experience dealing with commercial deals and broadcasters — a key part of the job as FIFA's top administrator.

FIFA said she coordinates the activities of around 2,000 staff members, and "monitors and evaluates the security, political, and socio-economic situation and trends in Africa's most populous country."

"She has a proven ability to build and lead teams, and improve the way organizations perform," Infantino said. "Importantly for FIFA, she also understands that transparency and accountability are at the heart of any well-run and responsible organization."

Also, FIFA lifted Indonesia's suspension from world soccer. Indonesian national and club teams, referees, and officials were banned over government interference in the running of the national federation.

Indonesia was readmitted after the government agreed to end its suspension of the soccer federation, but the national team has missed out on qualifying for the 2018 World Cup and 2019 Asian Cup while banned.

Benin and Kuwait are suspended due to government interference in their federations' independence.

AP

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/5ea3bd60d5704985bb192bb764cdfc7e/senegalese-un-official-appointed-fifa-secretary-general

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FIFA audit chairman Scala resigns in protest at Infantino

ZURICH (AP) — FIFA audit and compliance chairman Domenico Scala has resigned in protest against a power grab by President Gianni Infantino over control of independent panels that monitor the scandal-hit soccer body.

Scala says his resignation is a "wake-up call" for people working to reform FIFA.

Scala says Infantino's move on Friday at FIFA's congress "undermines a central pillar of the good governance of FIFA and it destroys a substantial achievement of the reforms."

FIFA member federations gave powers to Infantino's ruling council to fire Scala and ethics committee leaders who investigate corruption claims.

Those independent officials have been a key check on FIFA since 2012.

Scala's walkout challenges the integrity of Infantino, who succeeded Sepp Blatter in February.

In a speech on Friday, Infantino declared FIFA's corruption-fueled crisis over.

AP

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Timeline for UEFA Presidential elections decided

027 - 12th Extraordinary UEFA Congress scheduled for 14 September in Athens
Published: Wednesday 18 May 2016, 13.00CET
The UEFA Executive Committee today met in Basel ahead of the UEFA Europa League final and decided on the timeline for UEFA Presidential elections.
An Extraordinary UEFA Congress will be scheduled for 14 September 2016 in Athens. This Congress will also serve to elect the European female member of the FIFA Council. Candidates for both elections will have until 20 July to formally submit their candidature.
Regarding the integration of Kosovan clubs in the UEFA competitions 2016/17, the UEFA Executive Committee decided that the domestic champion and the domestic cup winner could be admitted to the first qualifying round of the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League respectively, only if they could meet licensing criteria under article 15 of the UEFA Club Licensing & Financial Fair Play regulations. This assessment will be made by the UEFA administration within the deadline of 31 May 2016.
Finally, a task force will be created to discuss how the national teams of Gibraltar and Kosovo will be integrated into the 2018 FIFA World Cup qualifiers following their admission as FIFA member associations.
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