Athensfan Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Sorry no : at least Sarajevo 1984 -> Albertville 1992 (yes Barcelona was the same year, but some month later) Doesn't count because of Barcelona '92. Even so, 3 WOGS would be totally unprecedented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 The biggest reason why memorabilia's point is invalid is that Albertville and Barcelona were both elected host cities at the same IOC Session in 1986 in Lausanne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Just discovered something very interesting. Oddly enough there is only ONE TIME IN HISTORY that a continent has hosted two Winter Games without an intervening Summer Games: Salt Lake City 2002/Vancouver 2010. If I'm reading the charts correctly, that has NEVER happened any other time in the history of the Olympic Games. Why should North America have to host three Winter Olympics before getting a shot at Summer Games? This is totally unprecedented and seems extremely unbalanced. USA 2024! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 With regards to other major cities in the U.S. hosting a Winter Olympics other than Reno, Denver, and Salt Lake City there's not too many candidates if for no other reason then the distance to the ski venues, particularly a resort with the all important 800m vertical drop, is too great, Boston being a prime example. Boise would be feasible if the alpine events were at Tamarack. Sun Valley would be ideal but it's over a two hour drive from Boise. As far as events hosted, Sun Valley hosted a few World Cup ski races in the early 1970s I think. Bogus Basin, just north of Boise has hosted U.S. Freestyle Skiing Trials. I have mentioned Albuquerque as a possible host especially if the proposed extension of the Rail Runner Express, a commuter rail, to Taos ever gets done. Taos would have to host the alpine events. I would really like to see Lake Placid host once again, but I think they'd have to probably be included in a bid from Syracuse and even then it's quite a haul between the two. Perhaps Seattle is a possibility with Crystal Mountain Resort though that might be too close to Vancouver for the IOC's liking. Somebody mentioned Portland. I didn't think it was too far to Mount Hood, under two hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Perhaps Seattle is a possibility with Crystal Mountain Resort though that might be too close to Vancouver for the IOC's liking. Somebody mentioned Portland. I didn't think it was too far to Mount Hood, under two hours. Seattle, to a certain extent Oregon (and Anchorage), have already been represented by Vancouver (i.e., that northwestern corner of the US and Canada, so those 3 areas are out for a few rounds. Trouble with Eastern areas is that, and we've said this before, western powder is superior to eastern snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I think all of Western Canada/USA is out for the next few cycles. So maybe a summer games in the east first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 I think all of Western Canada/USA is out for the next few cycles. So maybe a summer games in the east first. Speak for YOUR country, not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Speak for YOUR country, not mine. For the Winter Games If USA bid in 2020 I off course will want them to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Actually, a Lake Placid bid would be more feasible with Albany than with Syracuse. Especially with I-87 being the main connector between the two & a shorter distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 ^^ Although anchoring with a major city is the most likely result, I would prefer Lake Placid's 2022 bid to involve the Tri-Lakes region only, with the nearby major cities serving as hotel and transport bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 If anyone is interested here was Jaca's 2014 questionnaire. Jaca 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Winter 2022: Reno, Munich, Switzerland (perhaps Geneve), Öserstund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Winter 2022: Reno, Munich, Switzerland (perhaps Geneve), Öserstund. another Reno fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 It's snowing in Brazil this year... You know, that "South America never hosted" slogan worked once... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 another Reno fan? Actually not, but Reno is getting more serious that Denver, and the US will submit a bid for sure.... So Reno is the "most likely". But 2022 will be Germany vs Switzerland deffintely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I'm not so sure. I could see Reno beating out bids from Munich and Switzerland if the IOC decides to give the 2022 Games to Reno as a sort of consolation to the USOC after bids from New York and Chicago flopped. By that point, I also expect the revenue issue between the IOC and the USOC to be resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brekkie Boy Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 The Winter Olympics should never be awarded as a consolation prize for weak summer bids failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 The Winter Olympics should never be awarded as a consolation prize for weak summer bids failing. True, but there's is a precedent for it. Rome loses 2004, Torino gets 2006, Toronto loses 2008, Vancouver gets 2010, Moscow loses 2008, Sochi gets 2014. Personally, I would prefer the Mile High City over Reno but history alone more or less eliminates Denver. The Reno Tahow Winter Games Coalition has been working on this for a while and the opening may finally be there especially after the revenue issue with the IOC gets cleared up which it should be by 2015. Hopefully, Reno releases some sort of a preliminary venue plan in the not too distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 The Winter Olympics should never be awarded as a consolation prize for weak summer bids failing. Rule in life: Never say NEVER...unless you're Peter Pan. True, but there's is a precedent for it. Rome loses 2004, Torino gets 2006, Toronto loses 2008, Vancouver gets 2010, Moscow loses 2008, Sochi gets 2014. Go way back to 1992. France got Albertville 1992 because the summer was denied to Paris. That was the first of the Winter consolations. Plus, what bolster's the US' position for 2022 (whether it be Ready-to-go-Reno or Denver-is-a-dud) is that the previous NBC package of $4.3 billion expired with 2020. So with a U.S. host for 2022, the TV rights could be sky-high for the NEXT 2 or 4 Games. Conceivably, the IOC could see 5.7 or even $6 billion for Games 2022-28 with a U.S. host there starting off that next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 The Winter Olympics should never be awarded as a consolation prize for weak summer bids failing. I agree. But Chicago's bid was not weak. As for Reno, as soon as the Evaluation Committee steps of the plane, Reno's bid will be sunk. It's an embarrassment of a town and I don't think anything other than total desperation would induce the IOC to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) As for Reno, as soon as the Evaluation Committee steps of the plane, Reno's bid will be sunk. It's an embarrassment of a town and I don't think anything other than total desperation would induce the IOC to go there. 2 questions: 1. What about Gangneung?? 2. It's NOT JUST Reno, dummy. What if the plane circles around Lake Tahoe first, huh? And again after take off, huh? HUH?! FGS, Aths, take your blinders off for once!! Edited August 15, 2011 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Reno looks okay to me, not like how you described it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Reno looks okay to me, not like how you described it. It's fine for some 240,000 people--many of whom I am sure are fine. upstanding, decent people. Maybe they didn't grant him the divorce after 3 days and/or he lost a bit at the casinos? And like cities and towns have NOT undergone face lifts...fresh coats of paint? Flowers? Arches? Bunting? Etc., etc. -- a lot of the stuff that dull cities do when the world comes to town. He thinks the town is running for a HOUSE & GARDEN Award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex From Canada Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yeah, but an Olympics doesn't require just a new coat of paint aint it? An Olympics could completely transform a small city/resort/whatever like Reno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 And like cities and towns have NOT undergone face lifts...fresh coats of paint? Flowers? Arches? Bunting? Etc., etc. -- a lot of the stuff that dull cities do when the world comes to town. Pretty much what Beijing did, when they totally cleaned-up their polluted mess. And there were still remnants when the show finally arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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