baron-pierreIV Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yeah, but an Olympics doesn't require just a new coat of paint aint it? An Olympics could completely transform a small city/resort/whatever like Reno Exactly. At least OTHER people are seeing the POSSIBILITIES -- NOT the negativities!! Thank you, Alex. But people like Athensfan think that a city like Reno will be little Ms. Wallflower all its life. Like the city fathers are so unimaginative as to not LET their town progress...all of which makes for a great legacy STORY!! The Olympics will transform our town!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex From Canada Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Indeed. An Olympics could put Reno on the map and really help with the growth of the city. Reno looks, from what I see in your sig, a beautiful place. That view is almost like a painting. If Reno bids, I'd wager they go for the "Small Village" angle like others have done in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Pretty much what Beijing did, when they totally cleaned-up their polluted mess. And there were still remnants when the show finally arrived. I didn't know much about Salt Lake before 2002 other than the Mormon Tabernacle Cathedral and that it would be a squeaky clean, boring town. But we had driven thru on our way back from Atlanta in 1996 and then I went again in 2002. It's a small city--and with those giants "sports" banners, they managed to hide a few parking structures, the uglier commercial bldgs., etc. At night alone, I think Reno...and the surroundings smaller cities around Lake Tahoe...not everyone will be staying in Reno, can do an equal if not much better job. And I am sure there are more people around the world who would rather worship at a neon casino than at an LDS temple!! As a matter of fact, I will even suggest to the Reno-Tahoe Committee that they go hire a few of Hollywood's best production designers...and I am sure they can do a bang-up job if it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Here is an interview with the Swiss Bid. Interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Reno looks okay to me, not like how you described it. Look at some of my earlier posts for pictures of the city. Reno's economy is driven by cheap casinos. A fresh coat of paint is never going to transform the fundamental core of a city. The image in Baron's signature is stunning, but it is not at all representative of Reno. It is a view from Lake Tahoe. Tahoe would host the alpine events while the ice events and ceremonies would be in the city. If you ever go to Reno, you will instantly see what I mean. Do not be fooled by a few carefully chosen photos that conveniently omit the ugly realities of the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quaker2001 Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Indeed. An Olympics could put Reno on the map and really help with the growth of the city. Reno looks, from what I see in your sig, a beautiful place. That view is almost like a painting. If Reno bids, I'd wager they go for the "Small Village" angle like others have done in the past. Reno's population is well over 200,000. So I think "small village" might be a stretch for them. They are not Lillehammer or Lake Placid, but they're still smaller than all of the recent host cities save for Pyeongchang (Reno's population is similar to that of Gangneung which is almost more of the anchor city that Pyeongchang is). The strength of Reno's bid is going to be Lake Tahoe where most of those beautiful vistas are (I'm not going to touch Athensfan's post, but I can't want for baron's response). It's always been a Reno-Tahoe joint effort in the past 2+ decades they've been trying to land an Olympics, so that will continue to be the selling point. But it's still Reno that needs to make the sell because this isn't 1960 and Tahoe can't do it without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 When I earlier said it was a bad choice for St.Moritz/Davos, I was wrong. Switzerland knows Munich will bid, and if they bid with a big city they will lose. With these two towns they have a better shot at winning the hosting rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 haha the Reno 911 pic made me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympian Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 denver's sounding off on a 2022 bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 denver's sounding off on a 2022 bid. Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Well, New Zeland will not bid... Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Well, New Zeland will not bid... Haha Daewebo, NZ (nor Chile) has never figured as being a WOG bidding threat. With NZ's realistic admission, that really just makes the WOGs a consolation prize now for northern hermisphere countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Daewebo, NZ (nor Chile) has never figured as being a WOG bidding threat. With NZ's realistic admission, that really just makes the WOGs a consolation prize now for northern hermisphere countries. OK! Thats why I'm saying its fine the arent bidding!! the 2022 WOG specially will go West Europe. By the way I will love to se Santiago bidding, I'm latin lets not forget it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympikfan Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Just as Rio gets 2016 its time that a city from South America puts in a bid and they would be the heavy favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Just as Rio gets 2016 its time that a city from South America puts in a bid and they would be the heavy favorite. For the Winter Games? I doubt any country in SA will ever host the Winter Games. Countries have only competed in 5 sports out of 15 total, not to mention they have never won a medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympikfan Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 please correct me if I'm wrong but where dose it say in the Olympic Charter that a country must compete so many events and lets not forget a city hosts the Olympics not a country. And what is wrong with South America hosting the Winter Olympics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) please correct me if I'm wrong but where dose it say in the Olympic Charter that a country must compete so many events and lets not forget a city hosts the Olympics not a country. And what is wrong with South America hosting the Winter Olympics? O, it's been discussed here quite decisively already before...can't find the thread...and the Big Man from New Zealand winter sports already confirmed it, the dates for a southern WOG would be greatly disharmonious with the wheels of the northern winter sports world. Everything...the athletes' training skeds, the competition calendar, the federations' preferred dates, the networks' preferences, the sponsors' needs -- everything that has to be in sync in order for a southern WOGs to happen -- are contrary to what the southern WOG can offer. Just take the numbers: only est. 6 or 7 active southern hemi Winter countries v. at least 60 in the north. So that's a 10-to-1 ratio. Population numbers: a core of at least 2.5 billion northern TV viewers whom you know will be faithful to WOG broadcasts in its usual February slot v. what? 300 million people for the south, if at that? Again, that's like a 8 - 1 ratio. Also, and should know this by know if you observed the Olympics as long as I have -- the northern countries will NOT allow this privileged baby of theirs to slip to the south. The northerners will want to keep this baby up there as some sort of a leverage in the way the Summer Games are handed out. There are some nuances to dangling the next WOGs to weaker SOG candidate cities. A southern WOG ain't gonna happen in the next 40 years; by then only if Doha declares itself a southern hemipshere country and can buy a WOGs, might something like that happen. Right now, the slopes of Chile/NZ are only good for the off-season training that those slopes can offer so that northern athletes can claim their medals on the northern competitions in the upcoming season. It'll be a cold day in Tahiti when a southern WOG happens. Edited September 20, 2011 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athensfan Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 please correct me if I'm wrong but where dose it say in the Olympic Charter that a country must compete so many events and lets not forget a city hosts the Olympics not a country. And what is wrong with South America hosting the Winter Olympics? Of course it doesn't say anything like that in the Olympic Charter. However, it doesn't make much sense to award Winter Sports' biggest prize to a country that has next to no tradition in that area. They aren't going to have the venues, the expertise to plan for the Games, or knowledgeable, impassioned fans if they have no history in Winter Sports. When there are other countries who do have the passion, the experience and the venues, why practice such a bizarrely lopsided form of "Olympic affirmative action?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 O, it's been discussed here quite decisively already before...can't find the thread...and the Big Man from New Zealand winter sports already confirmed it, the dates for a southern WOG would be greatly disharmonious with the wheels of the northern winter sports world. Everything...the athletes' training skeds, the competition calendar, the federations' preferred dates, the networks' preferences, the sponsors' needs -- everything that has to be in sync in order for a southern WOGs to happen -- are contrary to what the southern WOG can offer. To be fair, it wasn't actually the dates that he emphasised (though he did mention it) but more a typical Kiwi bleat about costs, and how poor old NZ is too small etc. Still, yes, I have come round to the fact that the timing issue makes it almost impossible for the south. I would like to see a southern contender try for the WYOGs, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 To be fair, it wasn't actually the dates that he emphasised (though he did mention it) but more a typical Kiwi bleat about costs, and how poor old NZ is too small etc. Still, yes, I have come round to the fact that the timing issue makes it almost impossible for the south. I would like to see a southern contender try for the WYOGs, though. NZ is the perfect location for the WYOG. They should bid for 2020. Considering they have qualified 16 athletes for the 2012 Games it shoes NZ is producing athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Nevada 2022 MAY BE HAPPENING!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Nevada 2022 MAY BE HAPPENING!! It's interesting how this is being branded as Nevada's Olympics even though it sounds like most of the outdoor events would take place in California and some of the latest news articles are indicating that they'd consider Sacramento as a home for 1 of the ice venues (baron, I know you had mentioned it before, now it's definitely looking to be a consideration). I'm still not so sure they (or any other US bid for that matter) will have the goods to produce a winner, but I'm definitely anxious to see what Reno-Tahoe has to offer because clearly now they are very serious about pushing forward with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 ^Not only that, but what's with the "Nevada 2022". They're obviously going to have to change it to "Reno 2022" when the USOC tells them they're going to have to do it. Plus, branding "Nevada" most people would more than likely think "Vegas (2020)" instead of Reno. So why would they even want to market it that way, TBW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) ^Not only that, but what's with the "Nevada 2022". They're obviously going to have to change it to "Reno 2022" when the USOC tells them they're going to have to do it. Plus, branding "Nevada" most people would more than likely think "Vegas (2020)" instead of Reno. So why would they even want to market it that way, TBW. Nobody's OFFICIALLY said "Nevada 2022." I just did that because I know some gnats here are allergic to the name RENO 2022 as I am allergic to them now. But the state's Lt.-Gov. is now getting involved, so it looks like all systems are go when the USOC says "Go." And after something called PyeongChang 2018, Reno 2022 sounds like a breeze. Edited September 22, 2011 by baron-pierreIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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