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What is the exact number of votes for the 1st round? 102? 103? ...

Good question.

From the IOC Website, there are 110 members.

2 from Korea - Lee and Moon

2 from France - Killy and Drut

2 from Germany - Bokel and Bach

1 IOC President - "Count" Rogge

110 - 7 = 103

Name Country Year of election Games participation

Mr João HAVELANGE BRA 1963 1936/52

Mr Vitaly SMIRNOV RUS 1971

Mr Peter TALLBERG FIN 1976 1960/64/68/72/80

Mr Richard Kevan GOSPER AO AUS 1977 1956/60 **

Mr Richard W. POUND, Q.C. CAN 1978 1960

Mr Franco CARRARO ITA 1982

Mr Phillip Walter COLES, AM AUS 1982 1960/64/68

Mr Iván DIBÓS PER 1982

Mr Chiharu IGAYA JPN 1982 1952/56/60 **

HE Mr Pál SCHMITT HUN 1983 1968/72/76 **

HSH the Princess Nora of LIECHTENSTEIN LIE 1984

Mr Francisco J. ELIZALDE PHI 1985

HSH the Sovereign Prince ALBERT II MON 1985 1988/92/94/98/02

Mr Lambis V. NIKOLAOU GRE 1986

Ms Anita L. DEFRANTZ USA 1986 1976 **

HRH the Princess ROYAL GBR 1988 1976

Mr Ching-Kuo WU TPE 1988

Mr Willi KALTSCHMITT LUJÁN GUA 1988

Mr Shun-ichiro OKANO JPN 1990 1968 **

Mr Richard L. CARRIÓN * PUR 1990

Mr Nat INDRAPANA THA 1990

Mr Denis OSWALD * SUI 1991 1968/72/76 **

Count Jacques ROGGE * BEL 1991 1968/72/76

Mr Mario VÁZQUEZ RAÑA * MEX 1991

Mr Thomas BACH * GER 1991 1976 **

Sheikh Ahmad Al-Fahad AL-SABAH KUW 1992

Mr James L. EASTON USA 1994

Sir Craig REEDIE * GBR 1994

Mr Mario PESCANTE * ITA 1994

Mr Gerhard HEIBERG * NOR 1994

Professor Arne LJUNGQVIST SWE 1994 1952

Mr Austin L. SEALY BAR 1994

Dr Robin E. MITCHELL FIJ 1994

Mr Alpha Ibrahim DIALLO GUI 1994

Mr Alex GILADY ISR 1994

Mr Shamil TARPISCHEV RUS 1994

Mr Valeriy BORZOV UKR 1994 1972/76 **

Mr René FASEL * SUI 1995

Mr Jean-Claude KILLY FRA 1995 1964/1968 **

Mr Sam RAMSAMY * RSA 1995

Mr Reynaldo GONZÁLEZ LÓPEZ CUB 1995

Mr Olegario VÁZQUEZ RAÑA MEX 1995 1964/68/72/76

Mr Antun VRDOLJAK CRO 1995

Mr Patrick Joseph HICKEY IRL 1995

Mr Toni KHOURY LIB 1995

Syed Shahid ALI PAK 1996

Mr Ung CHANG PRK 1996

Ms Gunilla LINDBERG SWE 1996

Mr Julio César MAGLIONE URU 1996

Mr Kun-Hee LEE KOR 1996

Mr Ottavio CINQUANTA ITA 1996

Mr Guy DRUT FRA 1996 1972/76 **

Ms Irena SZEWINSKA POL 1998 1964/68/72/76/80 **

HRH the Grand Duke de LUXEMBOURG LUX 1998

General Mounir SABET EGY 1998

Ms Nawal EL MOUTAWAKEL * MAR 1998 1984 **

Mr Melitón SÁNCHEZ RIVAS PAN 1998

Mr Leo WALLNER AUT 1998

HRH the Prince of ORANGE NED 1998

Mr Ser Miang NG * SIN 1998

Mr Samih MOUDALLAL SYR 1998

Mr Joseph S. BLATTER SUI 1999

Mr Lamine DIACK SEN 1999

Mr Gian-Franco KASPER SUI 2000

Mr Carlos Arthur NUZMAN BRA 2000 1964

Intendant General Lassana PALENFO CIV 2000

Mr Zaiqing YU * CHN 2000

Mr Timothy Tsun Ting FOK HKG 2001

Raja Randhir SINGH IND 2001 1964/68/72/76/80/84

Mr John D. COATES, AC * AUS 2001

Mr Issa HAYATOU CMR 2001

Mr Juan Antonio SAMARANCH JR ESP 2001

HRH Prince Nawaf Faisal Fahd ABDULAZIZ KSA 2002

Mr Patrick S. CHAMUNDA ZAM 2002

HRH Prince Tamim Bin Hamad AL-THANI QAT 2002

Sir Philip CRAVEN, MBE GBR 2003

Mr Frank FREDERICKS * NAM 2004 1992/96/04 **

Mr Jan ZELEZNY CZE 2004 1988/92/96/00/04 **

Mr Hicham EL GUERROUJ MAR 2004 1996/00/04 **

Dr Rania ELWANI EGY 2004 1992/96/00

Mr Francesco RICCI BITTI ITA 2006

HRH Prince Tunku IMRAN MAS 2006

Ms Nicole HOEVERTSZ ARU 2006 1984

Ms Beatrice ALLEN GAM 2006

Ms Rebecca SCOTT CAN 2006 1998/02/06 **

Mr Saku KOIVU FIN 2006 1994/98 **

Mr Andrés BOTERO PHILLIPSBOURNE COL 2007

Mr Patrick BAUMANN SUI 2007

HRH Princess Haya AL HUSSEIN UAE 2007 2000

Ms Rita SUBOWO INA 2007

Mr Sergey BUBKA UKR 2008 1988/92/96/00 **

Dr Ugur ERDENER TUR 2008

Mr Dae Sung MOON KOR 2008 2004 **

Mr Alexander POPOV RUS 2008 1992/96/00/04 **

Ms Claudia BOKEL GER 2008 1996/00/04 **

Ms Yumilka RUIZ LUACES CUB 2008 1996/00/04 **

Mr Richard PETERKIN LCA 2009

HRH Crown Prince Frederik of DENMARK DEN 2009

Mr Habu GUMEL NGR 2009

Mr Habib MACKI OMA 2009

Ms Lydia NSEKERA BDI 2009

Mr Göran PETERSSON SWE 2009

HRH Prince Feisal AL HUSSEIN JOR 2010

Mr Barry MAISTER NZL 2010

Mr Pat MCQUAID IRL 2010

Ms Marisol CASADO ESP 2010

Ms Dagmawit Girmay BERHANE ETH 2010

Ms Yang YANG CHN 2010

Ms Angela RUGGIERO USA 2010

Mr Adam L. PENGILLY GBR 2010

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No,

110-7-1=102

FISA's Oswald Opts not to Vote for 2018 Olympic Host as Price of Keeping Samsung Sponsorship.

IOC warns Pyeongchang in 2018 bid probe

"The IOC ethics commission recognized that FISA and its president acted in good faith, " the statement said. However, FISA president and IOC executive board member Denis Oswald will abstain from voting on the 2018 bids "to avoid a perception of conflict of interests," the IOC said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=oly&id=5760683

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IOC warns Pyeongchang in 2018 bid probe

"The IOC ethics commission recognized that FISA and its president acted in good faith, " the statement said. However, FISA president and IOC executive board member Denis Oswald will abstain from voting on the 2018 bids "to avoid a perception of conflict of interests," the IOC said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=oly&id=5760683

Ok - interesting. Still, 103 are eligible but we expect Oswald to abstain from voting.

Keep up the constructive posts.

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So,I stay with 102 votes

PC :34 (newest horizons)

Munich: 34 (strongest sport nation)

Annecy: 34 (most attractive)

But after subtile Baron post,

Compact plan is good for Annency since only 35 die-hard supporters will show up!!

I operate a minor update:

PC: 34

Munich: 33

Annecy: 35 :)

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PC :34 (newest horizons)

Munich: 34 (strongest sport nation)

Annecy: 34 (most attractive)

Interesting. If something like this ever happened, how would the tie be broken? Would the IOC President decide which city is eliminated on the first round?

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The entire membership then votes in a run-off round, to determine which of the 2 cities that tied get to progress to the next deciding round.

And it has happened before. In the 2004 race where Cape Town & Buenos Aires tied in one of the voting rounds.

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The entire membership then votes in a run-off round, to determine which of the 2 cities that tied get to progress to the next deciding round.

And it has happened before. In the 2004 race where Cape Town & Buenos Aires tied in one of the voting rounds.

Salt Lake and Jaca also tied in the first round of voting for 1998. I don't think there's ever been a 3-way tie, though--I'm not sure how the IOC would decide that.

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Salt Lake and Jaca also tied in the first round of voting for 1998. I don't think there's ever been a 3-way tie, though--I'm not sure how the IOC would decide that.

Statistically, maybe one in a million. I mean Annency is sooooo desperate as to even create the most implausible scenario. :rolleyes:

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Statistically, maybe one in a million. I mean Annency is sooooo desperate as to even create the most implausible scenario. :rolleyes:

lmfao :lol: I didn't even notice that neige was suggesting a 3-way tie 'til now. Yeah, the implausible of the implausible! Oh, those Annecy trumpeteers. :lol:

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I don't think there's ever been a 3-way tie, though--I'm not sure how the IOC would decide that.

Even with this far-fetched 2018 hypothetical; I would assume that the IOC president would then have to cast a vote. Then, whatever of the 2 cities that he didn't vote for, would then have to go to a run-off round to be determined by the rest of the membership. Then the winner from that run-off round would then go off to face the city that Rogge voted for, in a final ballot.

But in all seriousness, this fricken vote ain't going down that way. Like Baron says, the Annecy supporters are just grasping at straws now. It's hysterical.

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Even with this far-fetched 2018 hypothetical; I would assume that the IOC president would then have to cast a vote. Then, whatever of the 2 cities that he didn't vote for, would then have to go to a run-off round to be determined by the rest of the membership. Then the winner from that run-off round would then go off to face the city that Rogge voted for, in a final ballot.

But in all seriousness, this fricken vote ain't going down that way. Like Baron says, the Annecy supporters are just grasping at straws now. It's hysterical.

The IOC President under no condition votes unless there is a final tie. As I have understood it if a tie happens between the final two candidates Rogge would be notified beforehand of the result (unlike normal) and then 'vote' as in pick a winner. I am sure that under a tie between Rogge would pick Pyeongchang.

I am beginning to think more and more it is Munich's to lose now. Samsung is well hmmm, how to put this, being incredibly undiplomatic like last time and the IOC has no reason to bow to Samsung because they have potential TOP sponsors in Sony, Toshiba and even a Korean company in LG. Along with Mastercard, Apple, Siemens and a few other companies, the IOC is under no obligation or pressure to statisfy any of their top sponsors.

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Apple? A TOP sponsor? Please... what, are they going to be the official suppliers of computers now? :P

Apple's 2010 revenue was 65.3 BILLION dollars (or more then 3 times Acer's revenue), a TOP sponsorship runs around 200 MILLION. The sport for computers (like the one for logistics) changes often and it has been mentioned on here before by a certain mysterious poster that Apple is interested in becoming a TOP sponsor.

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Apple's 2010 revenue was 65.3 BILLION dollars (or more then 3 times Acer's revenue), a TOP sponsorship runs around 200 MILLION. The sport for computers (like the one for logistics) changes often and it has been mentioned on here before by a certain mysterious poster that Apple is interested in becoming a TOP sponsor.

It's off subject here, but had Apple already been involved as a sponsor in an international event or in general ?

I can't remember seing them somewhere...

They do not need that!!!

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It's off subject here, but had Apple already been involved as a sponsor in an international event or in general ?

I can't remember seing them somewhere...

They do not need that!!!

And that would also mean that the IOC and the Org Committees would have to switch to Apple technology. + I don't think APple's very clean, almost nihilistic branding would be CLUTTERED by the recent UGLY Olympic logos. Apple doesn't need the IOC. They can meet their own demand. If anything, Apple and Disney would be a good marketing fit.

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Interesting. If something like this ever happened, how would the tie be broken? Would the IOC President decide which city is eliminated on the first round?

Did we get an answer to this question? I know it's so unlikely to be a three-way tie in this race, but I'd like to know the answer anyway.

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The IOC President under no condition votes unless there is a final tie. As I have understood it if a tie happens between the final two candidates Rogge would be notified beforehand of the result (unlike normal) and then 'vote' as in pick a winner. I am sure that under a tie between Rogge would pick Pyeongchang.

I understand that the IOC president only votes in a final tie. Like Avery Brundage did back for the 1956 Games, when he voted for Melbourne over Buenos Aires.

However, going with neige's far-flung, unlikely 3-way tie scenario, the IOC would have to do something in order to be able to move forward. And the option I listed is the only one I can see, unless someone else can list another one.

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It's an unlikely situation because we're not only talking about a three-way tie (which can be more or less possible) but also about an all-way tie. I mean, if it was a 4-bid race (with candidates A, B, C and D) and candidate A got 29 votes while B, C and D got 25 each, there would also be a three-way tie, but in the run-off between B, C and D, the 29 people that voted for candidate A would probably decide which city was eliminated (there could also be a need for a second run-off, though...). But anyway, what would happen in this 4-bid race if all of them got 26 votes? A run-off without the IOC President would only provide the same result unless there's an IOC member that suddenly decides to change his vote (which, BTW, would be quite stupid, wouldn't it? :rolleyes:)

I agree with what FYI said, the IOC President votes for 1 of them so it advances to the next round, and in the run-off the IOC members that had voted for the one the President picked would help decide which city (or cities) advance too. It's so far the fairest option I can think of, but it seems the IOC has no official rules about this, so, in the hypothetical case it ever happened (not only in the race for 2018), I guess the ballot would have to be declared null and void...

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