Quaker2001 Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I wonder if the 4.4 (4.38, technically, I think) includes a GE TOP sponsorship, it not, that would bring the figure up to 4.6b ESPN's bid for 2014/2016 was a total of $1.4 billion . . . laughable Wow, so much for ESPN making an aggressive bid. Hope it was worth the trip for their execs to go to Switzerland for that because it sounds like they almost shouldn't have bothered showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen-Seth Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 ESPN statement: ``We made a disciplined bid that would have brought tremendous value to the Olympics and would have been profitable for our company. To go any further would not have made good business sense for us. We wish to congratulate the IOC on a fair and transparent process, and we offer our best wishes to Comcast/NBC. We put our best foot forward with a compelling offer that included the enthusiastic participation of all of The Walt Disney Company’s considerable assets.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNutz Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Why is laughable? What do you mean bother showing up? Real business people like the guys that run Disney and ESPN know that the games are becoming a dog, and to bid more than 1.4 billion would have meant losing millions of dollars. NBC/Kabletown is run by boneheaded idiots, if they thought losing 200 million, and estimated 250 million for 2010, and 2012 respectively was bad, can't wait to see the losses from a billion on Sochi, Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen-Seth Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Games by games: 2014 - $775 mill 2016 - $1.226 billion 2018 - $963 million 2020 - $2.381 billion Ooops, should read $1.418 for 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43311618/ns/sports-olympic_sports/ Interesting how they went for four, but not too surprising. It will be interesting to see how the IOC allocates them, but it's 10-15% above 2006-2012, so my prediction on the trajectory continuing upwards by 10-15% holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen-Seth Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Apparently GE's sponsorship was not a part of the deal, so when you add it in, it's $4.58b NBC says it will make every event live on some platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Why is laughable? What do you mean bother showing up? Real business people like the guys that run Disney and ESPN know that the games are becoming a dog, and to bid more than 1.4 billion would have meant losing millions of dollars. NBC/Kabletown is run by boneheaded idiots, if they thought losing 200 million, and estimated 250 million for 2010, and 2012 respectively was bad, can't wait to see the losses from a billion on Sochi, Russia. Did they really think they could win with a $1.4 billion bid? I mean, it practically wasn't worth the price of the fuel it cost to fly their execs to Lausanne in that case because they had to know that number wouldn't do it, unless they thought they could play a poker game and read everyone else's bids and then beat them. $1.4 billion is an insult and I think the IOC will remember that the next time the bidding comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen-Seth Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Rogge says he would be "happy" to see a 2020 US bid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Games by games: 2014 - $775 mill 2016 - $1.226 billion 2018 - $963 million 2020 - $1.418 billion So, Sochi is $55 million less than Vancouver, and Rio is $238 million more than London. Location, location, location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNutz Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Did they really think they could win with a $1.4 billion bid? I mean, it practically wasn't worth the price of the fuel it cost to fly their execs to Lausanne in that case because they had to know that number wouldn't do it, unless they thought they could play a poker game and read everyone else's bids and then beat them. $1.4 billion is an insult and I think the IOC will remember that the next time the bidding comes up. Insult? Maybe to the cliquey corrupt IOC. Disney/ESPN knew what would be profitable and what wouldn't, they're not there to kiss Rogue's butt. Above $1.4 billion they couldn't make a profit, NBC/Comcast has already shown these levels aren't profitable, and yet they bid above them again. When NBC comes out and tells about it's hundred million dollar losses in the future they will have no one to blame but themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 So, Sochi is $55 million less than Vancouver, and Rio is $238 million more than London. Location, location, location. Rio is $45 million more than London, the price tag $1.181 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Rogge says he would be "happy" to see a 2020 US bid! I would say that too if I just pocketed four and a half billion dollars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen-Seth Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Was anyone else listening to the conference live? My line went dead - not sure if it ended or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNutz Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Rogge says he would be "happy" to see a 2020 US bid! I hope USOC doesn't take the bait, or they let Tulsa go for it. When it comes around and they just say NO in the 1st round again, all it will do is make everyone standing there look like a complete fool. How many times do we need to be fooled before we realize they're not our friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I hope USOC doesn't take the bait, or they let Tulsa go for it. When it comes around and they just say NO in the 1st round again, all it will do is make everyone standing there look like a complete fool. How many times do we need to be fooled before we realize they're not our friends. Tulsa? So we should make a joke out of the bid process is what you're saying? Seriously, anyone who is actually entertaining the notion that Tulsa should even be considered is a complete fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaspora Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Rogge says he would be "happy" to see a 2020 US bid! When is Rogge unhappy to see a country bid for an Olympics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I hope USOC doesn't take the bait, or they let Tulsa go for it. When it comes around and they just say NO in the 1st round again, all it will do is make everyone standing there look like a complete fool. How many times do we need to be fooled before we realize they're not our friends. You are delusional if you think Tulsa has any chance whatsoever at even being a U.S. candidate city. The USOC eliminated Philly and Houston, they will surely eliminate Tulsa. I don't think the USOC would be stupid enough to bid for 2020. Two games back-to-back in the Americas is not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 When is Rogge unhappy to see a country bid for an Olympics? Nail on head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoNutz Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Tulsa? So we should make a joke out of the bid process is what you're saying? Seriously, anyone who is actually entertaining the notion that Tulsa should even be considered is a complete fool. You can't make a joke out of something that has become a mockery of itself already. I don't actually think Tulsa should bid or be sanctioned as the USOC's bid. But, I do think it is a joke. First 2012, then 2016, now 2020? Really, who are we kidding what's changed? The IOC just wants someone to kick around and laugh at. And honestly don't we already look foolish enough to the IOC. They want the US's $$$s and nothing else, they're full of anti-American venom and cliquey European elitism. Why are all the Olympic Sports organizations HQ'd in Switzerland, why is the IOC? They don't want anything to do with the US but to cash our checks, and NBC/Comcast just played right into their hands. If I'm on the advising team to Probst or Blackmun I'm saying just keep the current contracts and don't do any bidding, the precedent was already set, twice in a row even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 The IOC just wants someone to kick around and laugh at. I've lost count of the bids Istanbul has lost, Madrid has lost two like the US recently, Paris has lost three, the UK before London won lost three, Japan has lost two just like the US. I'm sure there are other examples of countries the IOC has "kicked around" that I can't think of too. They don't want anything to do with the US but to cash our checks I seem to remember watching two US Games in the space of 8 years. Or was that my imaginiation? and NBC/Comcast just played right into their hands. That's up to them really. I know for your own reasons you wanted a different bid to win, and I know from your posting history you really wanted the US Networks to snub the IOC. Well, it hasn't happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen-Seth Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Heard that the Fox bid was something like 3.2 billion for 4 games, but can't be sure if that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted June 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 You can't make a joke out of something that has become a mockery of itself already. I don't actually think Tulsa should bid or be sanctioned as the USOC's bid. But, I do think it is a joke. First 2012, then 2016, now 2020? Really, who are we kidding what's changed? The IOC just wants someone to kick around and laugh at. And honestly don't we already look foolish enough to the IOC. They want the US's $$$s and nothing else, they're full of anti-American venom and cliquey European elitism. Why are all the Olympic Sports organizations HQ'd in Switzerland, why is the IOC? They don't want anything to do with the US but to cash our checks, and NBC/Comcast just played right into their hands. If I'm on the advising team to Probst or Blackmun I'm saying just keep the current contracts and don't do any bidding, the precedent was already set, twice in a row even. I've lived in New York since the day I was born (in 1978). I watched the NYC2012 presentation from Rockefeller Center and was saying to my friends there with me the minute it ended that New York didn't have a chance in hell at winning. Does the IOC really owe it the United States to put the Olympics back here a decade after the last Olympics because of all the money NBC pays to them? I get that line of thinking and there is a certain element of European elitism, but New York (and to a lesser extent Chicago) didn't lose because of that, they lost because they didn't have the best bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stir.ts Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Heard that the Fox bid was something like 3.2 billion for 4 games, but can't be sure if that's true. I think that's about what Bill O'Reilly makes on "Bold Fresh" bumper stickers each month. I've lived in New York since the day I was born (in 1978). I watched the NYC2012 presentation from Rockefeller Center and was saying to my friends there with me the minute it ended that New York didn't have a chance in hell at winning. Does the IOC really owe it the United States to put the Olympics back here a decade after the last Olympics because of all the money NBC pays to them? I get that line of thinking and there is a certain element of European elitism, but New York (and to a lesser extent Chicago) didn't lose because of that, they lost because they didn't have the best bid. NY-yes Chicago-not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 It can be said that the best bids didn't win in 2012/2016 either (Paris and Tokyo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveRingFever Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Heard that the Fox bid was something like 3.2 billion for 4 games, but can't be sure if that's true. So, Comcast overbid by over $1B. That's staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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