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/\/\ Good article find, JMark.

Indeed, it's very possible that the back-up system may have been used. But they had to time it so perfectly that it would be seamless. And from where we sat, there was no indication that unseen burners were indeed lit that night. (I did cite that the Official Account claims it was the arrow that lit the cauldron.)

But again, whatever that first Wikipedia account was and going by the Joan Bozzo Mullet link you found, I think that so memorable and iconic was the moment that

(1) something is always lost in translation (from other Spanish/Catalan accounts such as this one); and

(2) anybody even remotely connected with the stunt, magnified their part in the whole deed...and then conspiracy theorists who refuse to even give primary credit where due, tweak the minor accounts and expand otherwise supporting roles to greater importance.

I blame the Illuminati. There must've been a dip in the usual Illuminati activity that summer of 1992; so spinning the cauldron lighting story was as fulfilling an activity as any. ;)

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Good thing you clarified, I was about to say that there was no 1992 Winter Olympics and Paralympics Games in Albertville Minnesota United States of America North America.

I blame the Illuminati. There must've been a dip in the usual Illuminati activity that summer of 1992; so spinning the cauldron lighting story was as fulfilling an activity as any. ;)

Haha,,,,,maybe Illuminati had to illuminate or eliminate the future. (joke :lol: )

I believe we had this video in this thread before, but apparently it was deleted afterwards - colour TV live footage of Japanese TV channel NHK of the Tokyo 1964 opening ceremony:

What is still well-known about 1964 Tokyo is drawing Olympic circles in the sky above the national stadium.I find a video but it has been deleted by the claim of IOC.Here is a nice video of revival ver. of the scene;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2vOG7xSXZw&list=PL060CA059C491FCDB

You can find some real pictures entering the words "blue impulse tokyo 1964" in your bar by google or whatever else.You can also know more about Japan's Olympics at the official site of JOC (Japan Olympic Committee.)English is available on this site. ;)

PS.

This must be inappropriate to ask you all here a question not about a topic but how can I edit my posts?I've read help page and it says there's edit or delete.But I've been unable to find them.I submitted a request last week and Gamesbids support never replies.Anyone succeeded to contact them in the past?

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Indeed, it's very possible that the back-up system may have been used. But they had to time it so perfectly that it would be seamless. And from where we sat, there was no indication that unseen burners were indeed lit that night. (I did cite that the Official Account claims it was the arrow that lit the cauldron.)

Nobody was sat in a position where they could see down into the bowl of the cauldron. Also, the backup may have used a spark or microflare system rather than a pilot flame.

Thinking about all those rehearsals, I'm guessing that every one was recorded using cameras in both the broadcast position and from the side, on the stadium rim. The video footage would have been analysed to determine the range of acceptable paths (both visually effective and safe) for the arrow. If the limits of the acceptable path range were then actually marked onto the monitor screens, the technician for the live show would be able to judge in a moment whether or not the arrow was going to pass directly over the cauldron at the right height. If it was outside the range, then the backup would not be activated, and another arrow would have to be fired.

PS: What if Ric Birch is one of the Illuminati?

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Thinking about all those rehearsals, I'm guessing that every one was recorded using cameras in both the broadcast position and from the side, on the stadium rim. The video footage would have been analysed to determine the range of acceptable paths (both visually effective and safe) for the arrow. If the limits of the acceptable path range were then actually marked onto the monitor screens, the technician for the live show would be able to judge in a moment whether or not the arrow was going to pass directly over the cauldron at the right height. If it was outside the range, then the backup would not be activated, and another arrow would have to be fired.

Oh gosh, u're way over-thinking this. Remember, they tried to keep this as secret as possible; so involving that many more people would surely have resulted in the secret being shared and leaked so easily--not to mention all that loose footage floating around. Live, visual judgment was really all that was necessary. Pick up the arrows after rehearsals and nobody would've been the wiser.

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Oh gosh, u're way over-thinking this. Remember, they tried to keep this as secret as possible; so involving that many more people would surely have resulted in the secret being shared and leaked so easily--not to mention all that loose footage floating around. Live, visual judgment was really all that was necessary. Pick up the arrows after rehearsals and nobody would've been the wiser.

Why would any more people need to be involved? The rehearsals were almost certainly videotaped for the benefit of the archers, once it had been accepted that landing the arrow in the cauldron posed unacceptable risks. It only needed one person to collate the trajectory information from the videos, and that could easily have been the same person who had control of the backup system on Opening Night. Why would they not take every practical precaution for the cauldron lighting, given that it was guaranteed be one of the most watched events in TV history? You of all people should understand that that's how big a deal the modern Olympic OC is.

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/\/\ I don't think so. The archer(s) could calibrate their own shots.

How? They were aiming at thin air, and they had to hit it in just the right way. They would have needed feedback from a side-looking camera to show how their arrow trajectories related to the cauldron.

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How? They were aiming at thin air, and they had to hit it in just the right way. They would have needed feedback from a side-looking camera to show how their arrow trajectories related to the cauldron.

The practice before they got to the stadium involved a cherry picker bucket/crane that approximated the height of the real thing and at about the same distance the stage was from the cauldron. This was done at one of the hills of Montjuic so indeed they could get the approximate height plus gauge the prevailing winds on the hill. The practice then got refined to real dimensions when they got access to the stadium, the cauldron in place and the gas jets were ready to be fired. That's how.

The thing is JMark, I guess it's regrettable that you weren't there to have advised them. :(

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The practice before they got to the stadium involved a cherry picker bucket/crane that approximated the height of the real thing and at about the same distance the stage was from the cauldron. This was done at one of the hills of Montjuic so indeed they could get the approximate height plus gauge the prevailing winds on the hill. The practice then got refined to real dimensions when they got access to the stadium, the cauldron in place and the gas jets were ready to be fired. That's how.

Nope. Don't forget that they were originally aiming directly at the (practice) cauldron, and it was only when they started rehearsing with the real cauldron that they discovered "con horror, que a veces las flechas rebotaban en el pebetero y caían en las últimas filas." That would have given them an uncomfortably short tme to create and refine what turned out to be the most brilliant Plan B in Olympic OC history.

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Nope. Don't forget that they were originally aiming directly at the (practice) cauldron, and it was only when they started rehearsing with the real cauldron that they discovered "con horror, que a veces las flechas rebotaban en el pebetero y caían en las últimas filas." That would have given them an uncomfortably short tme to create and refine what turned out to be the most brilliant Plan B in Olympic OC history.

Why wouldn't u expect that when you move to a new site? So it happened. So...uhmmm...they don't have the innate intelligence to readjust their aim to fly over the damned thing? I don't know why you're so obsessed on finding fault and failure with the whole episode.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMH8kiNlb54

sea games 2005 e.i. what not to do in an opening ceremony

i love my country but no

LOL!

If you were ten people deep...past the front row, you would NOT have seen anything. That was directed by, I believe, Maria Vargas Montelibano...an erstwhile classmate. I don't want to say anymore.

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The complete OC of the 2013 Rugby League World Cup in Cardiff:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/NgWVa7kp_Lk?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Waaa, why won't it allow me to embed it??? :angry:

Still, here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NgWVa7kp_Lk

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What is this rugby? How can a sport be popular outside the US? I don't understand it.

I don't know if Ik had already posted this before...but I came across it again. Another bombastic ceremony from the Chinese; but another ugly cauldron and very dorky torches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoMN8ajdyzI

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Baron, I don't know if it'll be shown, but the US are playing the Cook Islands tonight (in Bristol lol) If it's on TV over there, give it a go - you'll find it's similar to your football minus the padding, & similar to rugby union but with less kicking & more running.

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