FIFA WC USA-Mexico-Canada 2026

[Lord David]

London would just have 1 venue, Wembley. Why should it have 2, if there's a wealth of other cities to choose from?

And as for Canada and Toronto, you're wrong. Hamilton is finishing building their new stadium which is designed to be expanded to 40,000 for major events like the Grey Cup. Why should Toronto's BMO Field need to be expanded when they're already being forced to build a 80,000 minimum seater stadium? Just have Toronto and Hamilton. They're like 60km apart.

Edited August 26, 2014 by Lord David

[intoronto]

Bmo field is being expanded aith 2026 in mind.

[Tony E Loves Architecture]

London would just have 1 venue, Wembley. Why should it have 2, if there's a wealth of other cities to choose from?

And as for Canada and Toronto, you're wrong. Hamilton is finishing building their new stadium which is designed to be expanded to 40,000 for major events like the Grey Cup. Why should Toronto's BMO Field need to be expanded when they're already being forced to build a 80,000 minimum seater stadium? Just have Toronto and Hamilton. They're like 60km apart.

London would have 2 Stadiums. I'm quite certain of that. It would be Wembley Stadium and Emirates Stadium.

[ofan]

London would just have 1 venue, Wembley. Why should it have 2, if there's a wealth of other cities to choose from?

And as for Canada and Toronto, you're wrong. Hamilton is finishing building their new stadium which is designed to be expanded to 40,000 for major events like the Grey Cup. Why should Toronto's BMO Field need to be expanded when they're already being forced to build a 80,000 minimum seater stadium? Just have Toronto and Hamilton. They're like 60km apart.

There are already plans to expand BMO Field. Originally it was for the CFL team in town, but I think those plans fell through. Regardless, it's being renovated for 2026 as intoronto mentioned.

Edited August 26, 2014 by ofan

[intoronto]

Besides Hamilton's stadium looks bare bones...

[Rob2012]

London would just have 1 venue, Wembley. Why should it have 2, if there's a wealth of other cities to choose from?

Because there aren't a wealth of cities to choose from! The fact we had very speculative stadiums like Portsmouth, Nottingham Forest, Plymouth just to ensure good geographical spread was a technical weakness of our 2018 bid. London would certainly have two stadiums if we hosted a World Cup.

All hypothetical of course as the FA want minimal involvement with FIFA until Blatter is gone.

[Lord David]

Besides Hamilton's stadium looks bare bones...

So? It's upgradable to 40,000. Toronto would end up building a 80,000 seater anyways. Spread the event around and give that city which is close enough anyways some matches.

[zekekelso]

I kinda baffled why Canada would want the World Cup, or vice versa. But assuming it happens you can guarantee that Montreal and Toronto will split the "glory" games... open/semis/finals. To think the opening and closing would be in Toronto is to not understand a thing about Canadian politics.

[ofan]

I kinda baffled why Canada would want the World Cup, or vice versa. But assuming it happens you can guarantee that Montreal and Toronto will split the "glory" games... open/semis/finals. To think the opening and closing would be in Toronto is to not understand a thing about Canadian politics.

I think Montreal would get confed cup final/WC semi/WC opener. Toronto would get WC final

[zekekelso]

Is McMahon Stadium in Calgary in a bad location?

Well, it is in Calgary.. which many people who aren't fond of frozen testicles think is a bad location.

[Faster]

Well, it is in Calgary.. which many people who aren't fond of frozen testicles think is a bad location.

Like Green Bay is much better.

I think the reason why Canada could get behind a World Cup is because instead of just being in one city/province it would be spread across the country in a much more inclusive way. It also means that the cost is spread across at least 6 provinces and 10 cities along with the federal government. Making the tournament a much cheaper option to gain international exposure and prestige compared to a multisport Games.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Faster

[Quaker2001]

I think the reason why Canada could get behind a World Cup is because instead of just being in one city/province it would be spread across the country in a much more inclusive way. It also means that the cost is spread across at least 6 provinces and 10 cities along with the federal government. Making the tournament a much cheaper option to gain international exposure and prestige compared to a multisport Games.

Here's flipside of that though.. 1 of the negatives associated with the 1994 World Cup in the United States is that it's not that easy or cheap to get between cities in this country. That's an even bigger problem in Canada. If your country's team has a game in Edmonton and their next game is in Halifax, that's not an easy or inexpensive trip. And remember, you're not talking about a handful of people, you're talking about thousands of fans going from 1 site to the next. That's probably part of the reason that the schedule is designed for the 2015 Women's World Cup to minimize travel. Harder to do that for a Men's World Cup. So what's better for Canada may make them less appealing to everyone else.

[ofan]

Here's flipside of that though.. 1 of the negatives associated with the 1994 World Cup in the United States is that it's not that easy or cheap to get between cities in this country. That's an even bigger problem in Canada. If your country's team has a game in Edmonton and their next game is in Halifax, that's not an easy or inexpensive trip. And remember, you're not talking about a handful of people, you're talking about thousands of fans going from 1 site to the next. That's probably part of the reason that the schedule is designed for the 2015 Women's World Cup to minimize travel. Harder to do that for a Men's World Cup. So what's better for Canada may make them less appealing to everyone else.

The venues for a Canada World Cup would be clustered in the east and west. Each group would be assigned to one of the clusters.

[zekekelso]

it's not that easy or cheap to get between cities in this country. That's an even bigger problem in Canada.

Canada can't be any worse than Brazil or Russia. I'm not saying it's not a real problem. Just one that FIFA doesn't care about.

[intoronto]

Here's flipside of that though.. 1 of the negatives associated with the 1994 World Cup in the United States is that it's not that easy or cheap to get between cities in this country. That's an even bigger problem in Canada. If your country's team has a game in Edmonton and their next game is in Halifax, that's not an easy or inexpensive trip. And remember, you're not talking about a handful of people, you're talking about thousands of fans going from 1 site to the next. That's probably part of the reason that the schedule is designed for the 2015 Women's World Cup to minimize travel. Harder to do that for a Men's World Cup. So what's better for Canada may make them less appealing to everyone else.

Have 5 venues in the west (Vancouver, Regina, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary) and five in the east (Toronto x2, Ottawa, Montreal, Atlantic Canada)

[Nacre]

Canada can't be any worse than Brazil or Russia. I'm not saying it's not a real problem. Just one that FIFA doesn't care about.

The difference is that most of the large cities in Russia and Brazil (and China as well) is that the major cities are located on one side of the country. There aren't many big cities in Amazonia or Siberia. There was one amazon city and Russia will likely have one Siberian city, but the vast majority of matches will be played in European Russia.

Meanwhile the USA and Canada would have the matches spread out fairly evenly over a continent.

[StefanMUC]

You just have to cluster the groups. I remember that in former WCs, each group was assigned to one or two cities instead of having matches spread around the whole host country. And the group winner would at least play their 2nd round match in one of those cities, too, so reducing the travelling quite a bit.

Of course, there may be host cities getting the short straw and ending up seeing only few or no superstar players, but you can't have it all.

[reindeer]

You can't use the old system of the past World Cups of assigning one venue to the seeded team and two venues to each group because in a 32 team tournament that would require 16 stadiums. USA '94 used a sort of cluster system where there were fewer stadiums, only 9, than between 1982 and 1990 (the previous 24 team World Cups) with the neighbouring two groups sharing three venues and each team playing two group matches (the seeded teams two consecutive matches) at the same stadium. For example group A had three matches in Los Angeles, two in Detroit and one in San Francisco. The group B played three times in SF, also twice in Detroit and once in LA. And so it went for the groups C-D and E-F with their respective groups as well. Copying that model with 8 groups would require 12 stadiums though.

[reindeer]

Thinking about that system with 10 venues could work if there were four clusters and each one of them had two groups and two stadiums, in total 8 venues. Two stadiums for two groups to share wouldn't be enough and besides two stadiums would be still left over, so perhaps neighbouring clusters could share one stadium so that all of them would be evenly used.

The two western clusters sharing one stadium and the eastern clusters sharing another of the remaining ones that is, just to give an example.

[Nacre]

You can't use the old system of the past World Cups of assigning one venue to the seeded team and two venues to each group because in a 32 team tournament that would require 16 stadiums.

That is actually very feasible for another USA bid. There are 77 stadiums in the USA with 60,000 capacity or greater. (And 31 NFL stadiums, though a few of them are not suitable.) It wouldn't work for Canada, though.

[gotosy]

China to bid for World Cup, promote soccer in all-round way

2015-03-17 09:12Xinhua

China will bid to host the FIFA World Cup in future not only for achieving competitive results but also for popularization of the sport in China, said president of the Chinese Football Association (CFA) Cai Zhenhua on Monday.

Cai's remarks were given just hours after an overall reform plan was published by the Chinese government in a bid to boost the sport in the world's most populous country.

"Along with our long-term plan to improve the environment of soccer and the popularization of the sport, China, as a big country, should bid to host the World Cup," said Cai.

The reform plan, passed last month by China's central reform group, showed the determination to meet the needs of people to popularize the sport across the country and finally promote the level of national teams.

"Revitalizing soccer is a must for building China into a sports powerhouse and also the earnest hope of the people," said the plan, named the overall plan of Chinese soccer reform and development.

Goals are set in the plan that include the women's team returning to the world top class as a mid-term goal and the men's side joining the world leading powers in the long run. Bidding to host the World Cup is listed as a long-term goal, too.

"However, the significance of it is not only to seek the competitive results. By hosting the biggest soccer event in the world, we can further popularize the sport in our country, bring soccer culture to more people, and lead more and more people to the world's most popular sport," added Cai.

On which edition of the World Cup China will apply for, Cai said CFA will start a research on it. As Russia and Qatar will host the 2018 and 2022 editions respectively, the latest World Cup eligible to bid for is in the year of 2026.

Before the long-term goal to achieve, CFA has lots of work to do.

In contrast to its excellence in sports such as table tennis, badminton, diving, shooting, weightlifting and gymnastics, Chinese soccer has been bothered by the lackluster performance of the national sides.

The men's team, now ranked 83rd worldwide, just qualified for one World Cup finals, in 2002. Meanwhile, the women's side is struggling to recreate their glory as the 1999 World Cup runners-up and even failed to qualify for the 2011 edition of the competition.

"The development of Chinese soccer must be a long process. It's not three years or five years, it's not eight or ten years. In the long run, we shouldn't judge the work by the performances of national teams in a short period of time," said Cai. "As the plan said, we should make efforts to let more people take to the sport and let the culture of soccer take root among the people. That's also important."

According to the plan, the reforms involve almost every aspect of the sport, including the professional clubs, professional leagues, the national teams and grassroots soccer.

The plan attached much importance to school soccer and developing the young talents. Soccer will be added into compulsory curriculum in elementary and middle schools across the country.

"On the basis of 5,000 schools specialized in soccer today, in 2020, the number will increase to 20,000," said the plan, aiming to use soccer as an education tool not only to enlarge the soccer population but also improve the overall quality of students.

China international Sun Ke expressed his support for the plan.

"The plan is great for children to take part in the sport and give their parents a lot of confidence. The future of the sport will get better each day," he said.

http://www.ecns.cn/2015/03-17/158259.shtml

[gotosy]

2026 FIFA World Cup™

The executive decided that the bidding process to host the 2026 FIFA World Cup™ will kick off in 2015, with the appointment of the hosts planned for the FIFA Congress in May 2017.

FIFA

[intoronto]

Right before the IOC session. I wonder if the USA wins 2026, what will the IOC will do?

[Nacre]

I wonder if pulling out of the African Cup of Nations will hurt Morocco. It should be in a strong position. (Strong relationships with important European countries, a government willing to railroad its citizens into paying for new stadiums, would be the second African host, they can count on every Muslim voter picking them, etc.) But I'm sure there are a lot of African FA's furious with them right now. I can't see the African FA's voting for a country they've just banned from the next two African Cup of Nations.

And Qatar probably hurts their chances too. Which isn't really fair. Morocco isn't my favorite country, but at least it is an actual country and not a city state like Qatar. They have enough native football players and cities to be a decent host.

If FIFA could pick any country they ought to pick China. But Qatar messed that up.

So I'm guessing they will pick Canada or the USA. The Canadian government could build a stadium in Toronto like Stade de France or Melbourne's Docklands Stadium that would be Olympic capable.

Edited March 20, 2015 by Nacre

[intoronto]

The Canadian government could build a stadium in Toronto like Stade de France or Melbourne's Docklands Stadium that would be Olympic capable.

Not happening. The current government refuses to fund any sports stadiums/arenas.