cube Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 i think we need a miracle if PyeongChang not get the games it dosen´t mean i don´t want them to win but the race for 2014 seems very boring for me i don´t think salzburg is strong enough to trouble the SouthKorean Bid. and the other bids are....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puxapiti Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 I hope Almaty to give us some surprises... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost1 Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 i think we need a miracle if PyeongChang not get the gamesit dosen´t mean i don´t want them to win but the race for 2014 seems very boring for me i don´t think salzburg is strong enough to trouble the SouthKorean Bid. and the other bids are....... PC has a strong bid, that's true, they are even the hot favourites for 2014, but wasnt Paris favourite for 2012? Who won the bid? London. So, nothing is impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 The difference between London-Paris 2012 and PyongChang-whatever other city 2014 is that the eventual winner of 2012 was going to be from Europe. 2014 will have Asia (the Far East and the Almaty areas), and Europe. Further, Paris was quickly eliminated in the 2004 race; PY came in a very strong 2nd against Vancouver in 2003. And after giving 2012 to London, it would be very obvious if the IOC went 'Europe' again for 2014, especially from what I've heard that PY is technically the strongest bid of all. Salzburg? The local citizenry isn't behind it. Sofia? Bansko's toooooo far away from Sofia. So PY may be the favorite but they have SOLID reasons to be the favorite, not sentimental ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost1 Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Sofia? Bansko's toooooo far away from Sofia. Bansko isnt that far away: 1) there will be a separate Olympic village 2) withe the new highway that will open in two years the travel time will be 1:20 hours So Bansko isnt problem for Sofia's bid But the other that you say appears to be so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puxapiti Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 The difference between London-Paris 2012 and PyongChang-whatever other city 2014 is that the eventual winner of 2012 was going to be from Europe. 2014 will have Asia (the Far East and the Almaty areas), and Europe. Further, Paris was quickly eliminated in the 2004 race; PY came in a very strong 2nd against Vancouver in 2003. And after giving 2012 to London, it would be very obvious if the IOC went 'Europe' again for 2014, especially from what I've heard that PY is technically the strongest bid of all. Salzburg? The local citizenry isn't behind it. Sofia? Bansko's toooooo far away from Sofia. So PY may be the favorite but they have SOLID reasons to be the favorite, not sentimental ones. I also think PC to have very good reasons to be the favourite. Besides, I think that Asia will get the games (Nagano-SLC-Torino-Vcouver- ¡¡ASIA!!). As you say, PC has SOLID reasons to win the bid. But I'd like the other cities to make a so interesting olympic race as we had in 2012. I hope Sofia and Salzburg to offer good bids, and I wish Almaty to give as some surprise. Anyway, of course, I'll be very very very happy if finally Jaca wins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexico1968 Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Pyeongchang has nothing sure, the reason?.they are frontrunner from 2010 but the IOC has never been so entusiastic about asian winter games, remeber Nagano, those games werent exactly the best winter games ever. When you talk about winter games you know european countrys can develop the best ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Can someone please post pictures of PyeongChang and its facilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Pyeongchang has nothing sure, the reason?.they are frontrunner from 2010 but the IOC has never been so entusiastic about asian winter games, remeber Nagano, those games werent exactly the best winter games ever. Uhmm...then why did the Winter Games return to Japan for a second time in 1998? Seoul put on a very well-organized Games. When you talk about winter games you know european countrys can develop the best ones. Uhmmm, Salt Lake 2002 is now considered the model of the BEST RUN and ORGANIZED Winter Games. So your arguments are falacious, mex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.x Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Can someone please post pictures of PyeongChang and its facilities? Pyeongchang Olympic Stadium (ski jump, 50,000 seats) Speedskating Oval Bokwang Phoenix Park. Site for freestyle skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 I don't want computer graphics of proposed venues, I want photos of actual buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Pyeongchang Olympic Stadium (ski jump, 50,000 seats) Wow! Kinda looks like Lillehammer all over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 At least once again an Opening Ceremony in a real winter sport facility and not in a stadium which has nothing to do with Winter Sports... By the way, I think the real argument for PyeongChang is economical. In Europe and America winter sports are more or less mature... but in Asia, it's a new frontier, a huge growth potential... Imagine if all the emerging upper middle class of China and Korea and Thailand wants to ski... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Well, after being a PyeongChang naysayer, I'm a full supporter now _ for very selfish reasons. Now Ostersund is out of the race, I hope 2014 goes to Asia to clear any obstacles for Europe, and particularly Sweden, to have a great chance for 2018. I think Sofia, more than Salzburg, is PC's biggest threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.x Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Here is Salzburg's 2010 Olympic Stadium, built on a temporary platform over a river. 40,000 capacity (25,000 temporary seats, 15,000 standing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 It is most certain that PyeongChang has learned from the 2010 race and applying it to this bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 It is most certain that PyeongChang has learned from the 2010 race and applying it to this bid. Yeah, if they can rope in a few more Africans and make a few more Arabs weapy eyed then the Games are theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Here is Salzburg's 2010 Olympic Stadium, built on a temporary platform over a river. 40,000 capacity (25,000 temporary seats, 15,000 standing). Nice stadium, but 15,000 standing? And by the river? How do you make people who will be paying something like anywhere from US$750-$1,500 a ticket, STAND for 2-1/2 hours on a Winter's night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Not by the river, ON the river, the river is supposed to be underneath. :oh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BABYLON Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Pyeongchang Olympic Stadium (ski jump, 50,000 seats) Wow! Kinda looks like Lillehammer all over again! I was about to say that! I really hoped that Norway would submit a bid for 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BABYLON Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Not by the river, ON the river, the river is supposed to be underneath. :oh: :shocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 A cheaper version of the Athens' Opening. The theme - A River Runs Through It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 A cheaper version of the Athens' Opening. The theme - A River Runs Through It. Talk of cheap. Probably no need to install WCs either -- I mean the river's right there -- unless it's frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e1ena Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 Not by the river, ON the river, the river is supposed to be underneath. :oh: I have this horrible vision of this huge arena collapsing into the river halfway through the opening ceremony. I'm with the Baron on this one. Standing room is pretty.. well, backward really. Hopefully Salzburg will try their hardest to put forward a better idea for 2014. And, yeah. An arena which actually serves more of a purpose as a winter sports facility might be nice, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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