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I know it is early and this question I am sure will be asked a million times before we actually get the results in June....but at this time which cities do you think are likely to make the shortlist or be dropped? Also, how big do you think the shortlist will be?

My shortlist:

PyeongChang

Salzburg

Sochi

Sofia

Dropped:

Jaca

Almaty

Borjomi

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I expect:

Pyeongchang (definite)

Salzburg (definite)

Sofia (probable)

Sochi (probable)

Jaca (possible)

Almaty (unlikely)

Borjormi (highly unlikely)

I think the top 4 will make the shortlist and the bottom 3 will be cut. Jaca is the only one that could make the shortlist if it tries hard, but I doubt it will make it.

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Pyeongchang, Sofia, and Sochi are definites for me. Sochi because Russia needs to be "thrown a bone" by the IOC, especially when it comes to the WOG. Pyeongchang and Sofia have bid experience and are both actively campaigning.

Most-likelies are Salzburg and even Almaty. Since Almaty has been actively campaigning to use its bid to make Kazakhstan better it will make it hard for the IOC to surprass it, even if it does result in an expected last place finish in the vote. I don't think Salzburg is definite. Like I've said before, I think it's the secret "Plan B" city.

Jaca and Borjomi can try again later. Spain has little to no involvement in the WOG and would be too soon after the big Greece/Italy/Britain combo and Borjomi, COME ON! It's in the REPUBLIC of GEORGIA.

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No surprise about PyeongChang here so far. Salzburg could be in the same boat, too. As for the other 2 or 3 that may join the two mentioned above, it is anybody's guess.
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Yeah, PyeongChang and Salzburg are the no-brainers for the shortlist, and I actually think Sofia could be pretty confident of making it too (I reckon the winner will certainly be one of these three).

As to the rest, Sochi and Jaca would have a chance for thew shortlist I suppose. I think like most of us, it's just Almaty and Borjomi that I can't see going much further.

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Yeah, PyeongChang and Salzburg are the no-brainers for the shortlist, and I actually think Sofia could be pretty confident of making it too (I reckon the winner will certainly be one of these three).

As to the rest, Sochi and Jaca would have a chance for thew shortlist I suppose. I think like most of us, it's just Almaty and Borjomi that I can't see going much further.

Sofia didn't do too bad with its final vote placings in trying to get the Winter Olympics in the past. To me, like any "newcomer", it takes more effort for a country like Bulgaria to get noticed by the IOC than a veteran host nation.

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Results so far - Shortlist votes:

1. Pyeongchang - 7

Salzburg - 7

3. Sochi - 6

Sofia - 6

5. Jaca - 3

Almaty and Borjomy - 0

Well, most of Gamesbidders think this will be the shortlist:

Pyeongchang

Salzburg

Sochi

Sofia

Interesting to see what we will think after the bid books are published!

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Results so far - Shortlist votes:

1. Pyeongchang - 7

Salzburg - 7

3. Sochi - 6

Sofia - 6

5. Jaca - 3

Almaty and Borjomy - 0

Well, most of Gamesbidders think this will be the shortlist:

Pyeongchang

Salzburg

Sochi

Sofia

Interesting to see what we will think after the  mini bid books are published!

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I think that Jaca has more possibilities to pass the shortlist than never, because Jaca has changed the structure of her bid including two big cities such as Zaragoza (650,000) and Huesca (120,000) and other important improvements. This makes me think that Sochi or Sofia could drop, I think that will be Sochi.
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I think that Jaca has more possibilities to pass the shortlist than never, because Jaca has changed the structure of her bid including two big cities such as Zaragoza (650,000) and Huesca (120,000) and other important improvements. This makes me think that Sochi or Sofia could drop, I think that will be Sochi.

I also think this Jaca bid is stronger than the others. Actually how many times did Jaca bid before - 4, 5 times. I've only heard about 1998, 2002, 2006 and 2010

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I think that Jaca has more possibilities to pass the shortlist than never, because Jaca has changed the structure of her bid including two big cities such as Zaragoza (650,000) and Huesca (120,000) and other important improvements. This makes me think that Sochi or Sofia could drop, I think that will be Sochi.

I also think this Jaca bid is stronger than the others. Actually how many times did Jaca bid before - 4, 5 times. I've only heard about 1998, 2002, 2006 and 2010

Actually Jaca only has bet 3 times for a WOG, in 1998, in 2002 and in 2010. This atempt (2014) is the fourth for Jaca.

This are the logos for the 1998, 2002 and 2010 bids:

lg1998b3.jpg

lg2002b6.gif

lg2010b9.jpg

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well, I have talked with the Jaca's organization and they have told me that the logo has already been chosen, now the Spanish Olympic Comite has to approve the logo and then the IOC has to do it too. When the logo is revealed the web site will be available.
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well, I have talked with the Jaca's organization and they have told me that the logo has already been chosen, now the Spanish Olympic Comite has to approve the logo and then the IOC has to do it too. When the logo is revealed the web site will be available.

Same thing for Sofia logo

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Pyeongchang, Sofia, and Sochi are definites for me. Sochi because Russia needs to be "thrown a bone" by the IOC, especially when it comes to the WOG. Pyeongchang and Sofia have bid experience and are both actively campaigning.

Most-likelies are Salzburg and even Almaty. Since Almaty has been actively campaigning to use its bid to make Kazakhstan better it will make it hard for the IOC to surprass it, even if it does result in an expected last place finish in the vote. I don't think Salzburg is definite. Like I've said before, I think it's the secret "Plan B" city.

Jaca and Borjomi can try again later. Spain has little to no involvement in the WOG and would be too soon after the big Greece/Italy/Britain combo and Borjomi, COME ON! It's in the REPUBLIC of GEORGIA.

agreed..

my Shortlist:

Pyeongchang

Sofia

Sochi

Salzburg

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I agree, I think Sochi is the dark horse in this race. PyeongChang, Sofia and Salzburg are the givens, and of the rest, Sochi to me stands out _ especially as Russia is, along with Sweden, one of the last of the winter sports powers not to have hosted a WOG yet.

The interesting thing in this race will be the affect of having so many former Soviet or east Bloc candidates (Sochi, Almaty, Borjomi, Sofia). On the one hand, it's easy to say that this group would split their natural base support bloc, with the risk that one of the better bids _ Sofia or Sochi _ could bow out early in an upset. But then again, as they fall by the wayside, we could see one of them zoom ahead to snatch a come from behind win.

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I agree, I think Sochi is the dark horse in this race. PyeongChang, Sofia and Salzburg are the givens, and of the rest, Sochi to me stands out _ especially as Russia is, along with Sweden, one of the last of the winter sports powers not to have hosted a WOG yet.

The interesting thing in this race will be the affect of having so many former Soviet or east Bloc candidates (Sochi, Almaty, Borjomi, Sofia). On the one hand, it's easy to say that this group would split their natural base support bloc, with the risk that one of the better bids _ Sofia or Sochi _ could bow out early in an upset. But then again, as they fall by the wayside, we could see one of them zoom ahead to snatch a come from behind win.

Yes, I think this is the first time so many ex-socialist bids are in the race for Olympics, which of course could be a minus for them, but on the other hand the IOC could decide to give the Games to this countries as being new locations, so that one of those 4 cities can win

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A VERY FUNNY comment that I found about the 2014 race in a bulgaria forum, the question is what chances does Sofia have:

we have a chance - Kazakhstan and Georgia will probably no longer exist as countries by 2014 and South Korea has just had the summer Olympics and the football World Cup. Does Spain even have any snow? Austria has everything but that could actually count against them as the Olympics is supposed to aid development. Russia will be a police state by 2014 and so be vetoed by America as an enemy of the War of Freedom or some such.
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