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So...? :blink:

The topic has no answer and I'm with Baron: "So?"

But, I think Jim wants to know what course is better or if one of both have been already chosen...

Well, I don't know much about Golf... But about scenery, Gavea is one of the most beautiful in Brazil, since its placed in the Sao Conrado neighbourhood, and it would be a wonderful choice for TV.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/marizalimafotos/416854503/

The Rio 2016 didn't decided yet.

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Eventually, it'll be the federation that will decide. And then things like security and what the particular course will offer will come into play. The prettiest course may not always get picked.

For sure, Baron, as I said, I don't know much (well, nothing) about golf... smile.gif

The only thing I can say is that both courses are very very near... Which means, maybe, there it will be some crazy ideas to have both...

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For sure, Baron, as I said, I don't know much (well, nothing) about golf... smile.gif

The only thing I can say is that both courses are very very near... Which means, maybe, there it will be some crazy ideas to have both...

I, for one, find extremely ironic that Gávea Golf Club is not located in Gávea, but rather São Conrado. Still, maybe they'll choose Itanhagá due to it being closer to the rest of the Barra cluster.

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Itanhangá is also stunning and I have played there where my father is a member. However, both courses though official have holes which are not long enough for the modern golfers. Both courses were built around the 30's.

There are rumors of new courses being built before 2016. The most promising one is in a new high profile residential compound where a new public 18-hole course would be built. If this course is actually built it will probably be chosen since it would be less than 5 km away from the OV and will probably be built according to the latest trends.

Regarding the name of Gávea. In the past, the district now called S. Conrado used to be called Gávea, due to the mountain (Pedra da Gávea). Then, the S. Conrado church was built in the old district which became know for the name of the church. The other district that grew on the road that connected Jardim Botânico and Gávea (Gávea Road), then started to be called Gávea.

P.S.: Gávea is the circular threshold where observers would stay in old ships.

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Itanhangá is also stunning and I have played there where my father is a member. However, both courses though official have holes which are not long enough for the modern golfers. Both courses were built around the 30's.

There are rumors of new courses being built before 2016. The most promising one is in a new high profile residential compound where a new public 18-hole course would be built. If this course is actually built it will probably be chosen since it would be less than 5 km away from the OV and will probably be built according to the latest trends.

Regarding the name of Gávea. In the past, the district now called S. Conrado used to be called Gávea, due to the mountain (Pedra da Gávea). Then, the S. Conrado church was built in the old district which became know for the name of the church. The other district that grew on the road that connected Jardim Botânico and Gávea (Gávea Road), then started to be called Gávea.

P.S.: Gávea is the circular threshold where observers would stay in old ships.

Good info, Aluz...

Copacabana had a similar history... Since the neighbourhood was called Sacopenapan (the old name of the Rodrigo de Freitas Lagoon) and in Guarani language means: "small trees lagoon" (not accurate translation made by me).

Then Rio, founded one church in now-Copacabana and named it after Our Lady from Copacabana, since the city received the an image of the Our Lady from Bolivian Government.

Our Lady from Copacabana is the Bolivian national saint.

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Site confirmed for golf event at Rio 2016

SANDWICH, England (AP)

A new course in the seaside region of Barra in Rio de Janeiro will host the golf tournament at the 2016 Olympics.

The Royal & Ancient governing body says the Riserva Uno site has been confirmed by Rio's organizing committee as the venue for golf, which is returning to the Olympic program for the first time since 1904.

Peter Dawson, chief executive of the R&A, says ''commercial negotiations are under way to acquire that site ... and a golf course will be designed by an architect yet to be determined.''

Dawson says organizers need to move quickly to ensure the course is built in time for test events in 2015.

As well as individual strokeplay events, Dawson says a team event could also be added to the schedule.

http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/Site-confirmed-for-golf-event-at-Rio-2016-61858454

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Legal dispute throws Rio 2016 Olympic golf course into uncertainty

The Rio de Janeiro 2016 Games may be set to stage the first Olympic golf tournament in 112 years, but this fact is now at risk of being overshadowed as the area of land designated for the Olympic golf course is at the centre of a legal dispute.

A report by CNN on the Riserva Uno location where a new course will be developed revealed that there is a legal dispute over the land.

"Right now the property is being presented by a group claiming to be the owner of this land," said Luiz Ernesto Magalhães of Brazilian newspaper O Globo, speaking to the United States based news service.

"Official documents show the land belongs to this group, but there have been disputes, other parties are now claiming rights to this land."

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http://www.insidethegames.biz/olympics/summer-olympics/2016/14313-legal-dispute-throws-rio-2016-olympic-golf-course-into-uncertainty

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Rio 2016™ to launch golf course design contest

The deadline for submission is October 28 and the winner candidate will be announced on December 23

The Organizing Committee for the Olympic and Paralympic Games Rio 2016™ announces the launch of an international contest to select a golf course design for the Rio 2016™ Olympic venue. The call for proposals is available from the Rio 2016™ website, www.rio2016.com.

To take part in the contest companies will be required to evidence golf course design experience, compliance with RIO2016™ international rules and to furnish proof of the qualifications necessary to develop the project. Consortiums of firms will be accepted. If the awarded participant is an individual international firm, it will be required to have an office legally established in Rio de Janeiro.

Participants will be asked to design a project that: meets International Golf Federation (IGF) specifications; is capable of becoming an international centre of excellence for the sport of golf for professional and community use as a legacy to Rio’s population; respects the environmental law in force and the local ecosystem; is capable of promoting Rio internationally and constitutes an important tool for youth transformation through sport. The project must also plan for all the stages of use of the golf course: before Rio 2016™ Games with the test events, at Games time and after the Games as a legacy.

The golf course will be built at Reserva de Marapendi, in Barra da Tijuca, the district that will concentrate the largest number of Rio 2016™ Olympic venues. It will be a unique Olympic venue, located approximately 5 kilometres from the Athletes Village and approximately 7 kilometres from the Main Press Centre (MPC) and the International Broadcast Centre (IBC), South of Avenida das Américas and North of Lagoa de Marapendi. It will be an 18-hole golf course where the men's and women's golf competitions of the Olympic Games 2016™ will be held. After the Games, the course will be managed by a private operator with the chief purpose of promoting golf in Brazil and in South America, representing one of the most important Games legacies for sport development in the country.

Candidates' proposals will be examined by a jury formed by representatives of the International Golf Federation (IGF), Rio 2016™, Rio City Hall and the Rio2016 Golf Advisory Committee(GAC).

The successful candidate will be awarded the contract to develop the design of the course at a fixed price of USD300,000.

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2016 Rio Olympic organizers forced to extend deadline for golf course design

SAO PAULO — The deadline for bids to design the golf course for the 2016 Rio Olympics has been extended because none of those submitted so far included the proper legal and financial documentation.

Organizers said Wednesday they are contacting the candidates to request new documentation that would allow them to bid for the design of the first Olympic course in more than 100 years.

The new deadline to submit documentation was not disclosed, but organizers said it is unlikely that the winner will be announced by Dec. 23 as originally planned.

The number of bidding candidates and their names are not being disclosed at this time. Some of the sport’s top names previously expressed interest in the task, including Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer, Greg Norman, Gary Player, Robert Trent Jones Jr. and Nick Faldo.

In addition to having prior course design experience, applicants must meet several specifications in order to bid, and one of the requirements for international companies is to have an office legally established in Rio.

The Rio committee also said the course will have to leave a legacy to the city and become an important tool for youth transformation through sport, as well as be capable of hosting tests events and competitions after the games.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/othersports/golf/2016-rio-olympic-organizers-forced-to-extend-deadline-for-golf-course-design/2011/11/09/gIQABIsd5M_story.html

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Golf venue will be a good refugee for foreigners tired of Brazilian people during 2016 games...

Brazilians have really few interest in the sports, some even think it's the most boring sport ever created (A opinion I don't share, curling is the one).

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On Friday, December 2nd, the eight finalists of the Golf Course Architectural Services RFP were announced. The winning participants will design the executive project for the Olympic venue, to be built in Rio de Janeiro to welcome golf’s return to the Olympic Games program in 2016, after 112 years of absence.

These are the contest finalists in alphabetical order: Gary Player Design, Greg Norman Golf Course Design, Hanse Golf Design, Hawtree Ltd., Nicklaus Design, Renaissance Golf, Robert Trent Jones II and Thomson-Perret Golf Course Architects.

The awarded company name will be disclosed early in 2012, on a date to be announced by Rio 2016™.

Rio 2016

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Does Brazil have any experience hosing international tournaments that would attract top PGA players such as Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson?

I don't think so... Golf is considered one of the most boring sports by Brazilian, together with Baseball.

Few elite people really practice this here.

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American Gil Hanse to design 2016 Olympic golf course in Rio

SAO PAULO — American architect Gil Hanse will design the 2016 Olympic golf course in Rio de Janeiro, winning the selection Wednesday over Jack Nicklaus, Greg Norman and Gary Player.

Organizers picked Hanse Golf Design over seven other finalists. Hanse will team up with Hall of Fame player Amy Alcott to build the first Olympic golf course since the sport was dropped following the 1904 St. Louis Games.

The announcement by Rio 2016 organizers was made at the site where the new course will be built, in the Barra da Tijuca neighborhood, which will hold most of the Olympic venues.

The Rio 2016 committee said Hanse Golf Design was “the candidate that most aptly met the selection criteria” issued by organizers, proposing a strong legacy component that prioritized a golf academy to help the sport’s development in Brazil.

“Hanse Golf Course Design tackled the challenge of designing a course for use by both elite and amateur athletes, one of the main legacy objectives,” the committee said in a statement. “It addressed the environmental sustainability directives for the games and efficiently conformed to the building restrictions on the land.”

The committee said that Hanse’s proposal “also effectively integrated native vegetation to the design, reducing the areas where frequent maintenance will be required.”

Golf made its debut at the second modern Olympics in Paris in 1900, but lasted only one more games. It was reinstated in 2009 and is guaranteed to be at the 2020 Games, but a good impression in Rio would help keep the sport in the games beyond that.

Another IOC vote on adding or removing sports is scheduled for 2017.

“The selection process adopted by Rio 2016 was extremely thorough and reflected the importance of the project,” International Golf Federation president Peter Dawson said. “I am delighted Hanse Golf Course Design has been appointed to design the Olympic golf course, which promises to provide an outstanding venue for the games and a tremendous legacy for our sport in Brazil.”

Hanse Golf Design was created in 1993 and built the course at the Tall Grass Golf Club in New York. It was recently hired by Donald Trump to help renovate the Blue Monster course in Miami.

Alcott won 29 times on the LPGA Tour, including five major titles.

The other seven companies which made the final shortlist were Gary Player Design, Greg Norman Golf Course Design, Hawtree Ltd., Nicklaus Design, Renaissance Golf, Robert Trent Jones II and Thomson-Perret Golf Course Architects.

Nicklaus was set to team up with women’s great Annika Sorenstam, while Norman had a partnership with the retired player Lorena Ochoa.

The winner was announced as delegates from the International Olympic Committee made a three-day visit to Rio to receive updates on the city’s preparations.

“As it marks the return of golf to the Olympic Games after over a century of absence, this course represents the beginning of a new chapter in the history of the sport,” Rio 2016 Olympic committee president Carlos Nuzman said. “It will enable Rio to host important events in the international calendar and it will be an example of sustainability and preservation of an environmentally protected area.”

The committee said Hanse’s proposal effectively addressed the planning of temporary overlay structures and internal flow systems for the venue, and considered the location of permanent buildings and the experience of players and spectators.

After the 2016 Games, the course will be used as a public facility.

The course will be built at the Reserva de Marapendi in Barra, about 3 miles from the athletes’ village and 4.3 miles from the main press center and the international broadcast center.

The designers made their final presentations to organizers last month and the winner was chosen by a selection committee comprised of Nuzman, Dawson and other local games’ representatives.

The winner was expected to be announced last December, but the deadline for proposals was extended because none of the bidders initially had the proper legal and financial documentation. The announcement was then set for last month, but the local committee delayed it so the winner could be revealed during the IOC visit.

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I just loved the fact Golf course will be seaside, indeed, it's the best beach of Rio city in my opinion: Reserva Beach.

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It's amazing to think this beach is INSIDE the city of Rio, despite some lack of buildings nearby.

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It really doesn't look like Rio, Danny. No favelas around ran by paramilitary groups.

Are you really from Salvador? What do you have against Rio? You act like a Paulista. On world cup forum you used outdated numbers to call the cariocas lazy. Stop this jealous and go have a life.

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It really doesn't look like Rio, Danny. No favelas around ran by paramilitary groups.

Face the fact: favelas are just 3% of Rio city total area and less than 6% of built area....

You should know as the official Rio detractor in GB...

Anyway, isn't this golf course beautiful?

Ok, I already know your answer......................................................

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