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Mario Pescante presented his appointment papers as the IOC’s Permanent Observer to UN Secretary General Ban-Ki Moon on Monday.

Pescante, IOC member from Italy, serves as IOC International Relations Commission chair, and led the IOC’s work at the UN, prior to it becoming a permanent observer last year.

His roles in sports have included serving as a supervisor of the 2006 Turin Winter Games and working as a commissioner for the Mediterranean Games in Pescara. From 2001 to 2005 he served as President of the European Olympic Committees.

In politics, Pescante has been a deputy in the Italian Parliament since 2001, and president of the Parliamentary Commission for the European Union since 2008.

As a Permanent Observer to the UN, the IOC can now participate at the General Assembly, write resolutions and speak on matters before the body, but it cannot vote.

http://aroundtherings.com/articles/view.aspx?id=34492

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Interesting, especially with the IOC always being at pains to keep at arm's length from the UN, and stop the likes of UNESCO having any authority over them.

I wonder if the UN could be considered for an IOC spot in return. I wouldn't see that as inappropriate.

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Why does the IOC need an observer at the UN?

Just to raise its stature that it is a legitimate "international" organization worthy of more thna just staging dazzling ceremonies and sports shows. The little dictatorial org. based in Lausanne really thinks its in the same league as legit bodies like the UN and its sub-agencies.

I now wonder if they would like a seat on the College of Cardinals as well. THe organization is sooooooooo sickening at times....

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I now wonder if they would like a seat on the College of Cardinals as well.

And the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences and the judging panels for Eurovision, Miss Universe and American Idol while they're at it.

And I'm sure that, after a Madrid hosting, Sama's also hoping for that Nobel as his final wish!

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Just to raise its stature that it is a legitimate "international" organization worthy of more thna just staging dazzling ceremonies and sports shows. The little dictatorial org. based in Lausanne really thinks its in the same league as legit bodies like the UN and its sub-agencies.

I now wonder if they would like a seat on the College of Cardinals as well. THe organization is sooooooooo sickening at times....

exactly the sentiment i was going to post. as if our elitist little sporting club wasn't self-important enough.

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I think it's ridiculous that the IOC was granted permanent observer status in the UN, and think it should be revoked. This little sporting organization really needs a reality check. I mean hello, you're not a country. They have no sovereignty to speak of, what country is IOC?

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I think it's ridiculous that the IOC was granted permanent observer status in the UN, and think it should be revoked. This little sporting organization really needs a reality check. I mean hello, you're not a country. They have no sovereignty to speak of, what country is IOC?

It's not like you HAVE to be a country to be a part of it. Several organizations have spots as observers in United Nations, the Red Cross/Crescent is an example. That's why they're observers with no vote power instead of member states. And there's Holy See case, which is a globaly recognized sovereing state but does not hold full member status in the UN, holding a Permanent Observer one instead.

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It's not like you HAVE to be a country to be a part of it. Several organizations have spots as observers in United Nations, the Red Cross/Crescent is an example. That's why they're observers with no vote power instead of member states. And there's Holy See case, which is a globaly recognized sovereing state but does not hold full member status in the UN, holding a Permanent Observer one instead.

The IOC is the only solely commercial entity. The other NGO's and Organizations are non-profits, charities or development banks. There's a huge difference between doling out big sports parties and working on human rights, human development loans, charity, working towards human rights, working on the environment. The IOC doesn't belong.

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The IOC is a not-for-profit organization that is a registered charity in both the US and Switzerland.

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The IOC is a not-for-profit organization that is a registered charity in both the US and Switzerland.

IOC has no presence in the USA, USOC is a registered "charity" http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=96136,00.html But declaring yourself a non-profit doesn't mean you are, I'd point to the trollish behavior IOC exhibits when it comes to anything having to do with interlocking rings, the words games, winter, summer, "fill-in chosen host city name". And they seem quite commercial to me. When's the last time your heard of a charity taking on billions of dollars worth of sponsorship and suing anyone that happened to use an ancient word like Olympic.

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IOC has no presence in the USA, USOC is a registered "charity" http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=96136,00.html But declaring yourself a non-profit doesn't mean you are, I'd point to the trollish behavior IOC exhibits when it comes to anything having to do with interlocking rings, the words games, winter, summer, "fill-in chosen host city name". And they seem quite commercial to me. When's the last time your heard of a charity taking on billions of dollars worth of sponsorship and suing anyone that happened to use an ancient word like Olympic.

Touche.

The IOC is a "charity" to itself and to "aristocrats" who have fallen on hard times.

It's not like you HAVE to be a country to be a part of it. Several organizations have spots as observers in United Nations, (1) the Red Cross/Crescent is an example. That's why they're observers with no vote power instead of member states. And there's (2) Holy See case, which is a globaly recognized sovereing state but does not hold full member status in the UN, holding a Permanent Observer one instead.

(1) But they ACTUALLY do charitable, ALTRUISTIC work and help lessen human suffering. How does the IOC do that? Rebuild sports stadia? Oh, Lord. :blink:

(2) Of course, the Holy See is fine in an observer status. They would be completely ridiculous if they had a full-member status.

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IOC has no presence in the USA, USOC is a registered "charity" http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=96136,00.html But declaring yourself a non-profit doesn't mean you are, I'd point to the trollish behavior IOC exhibits when it comes to anything having to do with interlocking rings, the words games, winter, summer, "fill-in chosen host city name". And they seem quite commercial to me. When's the last time your heard of a charity taking on billions of dollars worth of sponsorship and suing anyone that happened to use an ancient word like Olympic.

Even the World Wildlife Foundation defended it's WWF trademark (and won) from the "World Wrestling Federation" (you know that fake "entertainment" stuff).

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The IOC, in every sense, acts like a sovereign state with political powers... so they assume it their right to have a seat at the UN table. The IOC continue to show their arrogance and continue to be treated like Kings and Princes.

The world needs to get a grip.

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The IOC, in every sense, acts like a sovereign state with political powers... so they assume it their right to have a seat at the UN table. The IOC continue to show their arrogance and continue to be treated like Kings and Princes.

The world needs to get a grip.

Their not being a sovereign nation is why they're only observers. Full list of observers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_observers

I don't know whether the IOC is out of place in this list or not to be honest. There's some rather obscure international organisations on there which probably, for better or worse, wield less influnce than the IOC.

I'm not sure what I think of this to be honest, but I think getting into a debate about the IOC acting like a sovereign state misses the point of the status they've been given and risks muddying the issue. I mean, I know at first glance it only increases the sense that the IOC's collective ego is infinite, but is there really no positive argument that can be made for this new status setting aside our first impressions?

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I mean, I know at first glance it only increases the sense that the IOC's collective ego is infinite, but is there really no positive argument that can be made for this new status setting aside our first impressions?

I think beyond the first impression I still come away thinking they don't belong there. I love the idea of the Olympic games, I love the camaraderie, the nations all sending their best, the bright colors, the music, now put that next to The Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, and the IOC is out of their league, as much sports competition and partying are good, they don't belong. The UN is where the world deals with serious issues, human rights abuses, nuclear weapons, and now whether or not baseball and softball should be back in the Summer Olympic Games?

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I think the deal negotiated with the UN is that an Ice Dancing medal-winning couple will perform at every opening of the GA in New York and another one in Geneva for the delight of the actual delegates before they dive into real work...free of charge; and the IOC gets a Permanent Observer seat.

I only think that's a fair deal...doncha? :blink:

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Organisations like the WWF, Greenpeace and Medicins sans Frontiers do indeed very zealously protect and guard thyeir trademarks ghrough litigation. Companies I've worked for have ben sued by gren organisations, for example, for accidentally using what were thought of as common green taglines.

I don't think it's too bizarre the IOC have some oberver status. It's jot like they have any votes. And UNESCO has long had desires to have a say in the IOC (which th IOC has fervently resisted). Indeed, the organsations already cooperate in promoting and declaring the Olympic truce for each games.

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Indeed, the organsations already cooperate in promoting and declaring the Olympic truce for each games.

But do they really have to 'remind' us that they do that? I mean isn't that the main raison d'etre of the Olympic Games since the ancient times?

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But do they really have to 'remind' us that they do that? I mean isn't that the main raison d'etre of the Olympic Games since the ancient times?

If they don't, it's only starry eyed obsessives like us here that remember!

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First things first, GoNutz you know nothing of which you speak.

The IOC's balance sheet at the end of each year has to be zero, with a couple of million for operations cost for the coming year. The IOC doesn't make potential hosts pay an application feel for sh!ts and giggles. All IOC members are volunteers and do not get payed for any of their services to the organization. Probably why bribery was so successful a tactic. The IOC makes billions of dollars and then redistributes it to the OGOCs, NOCs, and IFs to promote sport and help fund and run the international competition. Sports like badminton would not be able to function without this money.

And yes the IOC does have a presence within the US, it is a government listed charity not-for-profit and therefore has to follow all US laws and regulations that govern those statuses.

And is an organization that's mission state is to prompt peace, harmony and friendship amongst all nations really out of place with the ideals of the UN?

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First things first, GoNutz you know nothing of which you speak.

The IOC's balance sheet at the end of each year has to be zero, with a couple of million for operations cost for the coming year. The IOC doesn't make potential hosts pay an application feel for sh!ts and giggles. All IOC members are volunteers and do not get payed for any of their services to the organization. Probably why bribery was so successful a tactic. The IOC makes billions of dollars and then redistributes it to the OGOCs, NOCs, and IFs to promote sport and help fund and run the international competition. Sports like badminton would not be able to function without this money.

And yes the IOC does have a presence within the US, it is a government listed charity not-for-profit and therefore has to follow all US laws and regulations that govern those statuses.

And is an organization that's mission state is to prompt peace, harmony and friendship amongst all nations really out of place with the ideals of the UN?

IOC is not registered with the US Government, search IRS.gov if you'd like, maybe you'll be able to find it, I certainly can't. Also where is IOC's US Office, something else I cannot find. All Olympic Trademarks and Copyrights in the US are held by the USOC, as referenced by the Ted Stevens Olympic and Amateur Sports Act "§220506. Exclusive right to name, seals, emblems, and badges". Unless you can show me where the IOC's US Offices are located and where they are registered with the US Gov't as a non-profit charity in which case I'll retract what I've said. The Global Fund doesn't take billions in sponsorships, Red Cross doesn't sue anyone who uses the word Red. Does anyone take GreenPeace seriously? The WWF World Wildlife Fund vs World Wrestling Federation is an interesting case, one in which I think if the WWF (The Wrestlers) had fought harder they may have won, especially considering subsequent cases were found in their favor, I also think that if it was in a court not in the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, the case may have had a different outcome. Olympic games the old way were about peace, harmony, and friendship, that's no longer true. It's been taken over by commercial interests, it's pre-packaged, it's slapped on a product and it's SOLD to the highest bidder, it's SOLD to anyone with some cash. The IOC has sold the Olympic soul and ethos out from within, so No I am of the opinion the IOC does not belong at the same table as The Global Fund, or The Red Cross, anymore than Walmart or Nike deserve a spot as a permanent obeserver of The United Nations, Olympics have become nothing more than a Corporation.

Here's the text of the law that creates USOC, http://videos.usoc.org/legal/TedStevens.pdf

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The first ever “UN-IOC Forum” will take place in Lausanne on 21 and 22 May 2010. This technical meeting for specialised representatives from the Olympic Movement and UN bodies will serve to assess how to build further on the existing partnership, especially in the light of the IOC’s recently obtained UN observer status. The forum will include a follow-up on last year’s International Forum on Sport for Peace and Development and bring together UN country teams and NOCs to push new sport related projects in developing nations. Keynote addresses at the Opening Session will be delivered by IOC President Jacques Rogge; Wilfried Lemke, Special Advisor to the UN Secretary General on Sport for Development and Peace; and Mario Pescante, Chairman of the IOC’s International Relations Commission and Permanent Observer for the IOC to the UN.

http://www.olympic.org/en/content/Media/?articleId=86055&articleNewsGroup=-1

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IOC is not registered with the US Government, search IRS.gov if you'd like, maybe you'll be able to find it, I certainly can't. Also where is IOC's US Office, something else I cannot find. All Olympic Trademarks and Copyrights in the US are held by the USOC, as referenced by the Ted Stevens Olympic and Amateur Sports Act "§220506. Exclusive right to name, seals, emblems, and badges". Unless you can show me where the IOC's US Offices are located and where they are registered with the US Gov't as a non-profit charity in which case I'll retract what I've said. The Global Fund doesn't take billions in sponsorships, Red Cross doesn't sue anyone who uses the word Red. Does anyone take GreenPeace seriously? The WWF World Wildlife Fund vs World Wrestling Federation is an interesting case, one in which I think if the WWF (The Wrestlers) had fought harder they may have won, especially considering subsequent cases were found in their favor, I also think that if it was in a court not in the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, the case may have had a different outcome. Olympic games the old way were about peace, harmony, and friendship, that's no longer true. It's been taken over by commercial interests, it's pre-packaged, it's slapped on a product and it's SOLD to the highest bidder, it's SOLD to anyone with some cash. The IOC has sold the Olympic soul and ethos out from within, so No I am of the opinion the IOC does not belong at the same table as The Global Fund, or The Red Cross, anymore than Walmart or Nike deserve a spot as a permanent obeserver of The United Nations, Olympics have become nothing more than a Corporation.

Here's the text of the law that creates USOC, http://videos.usoc.org/legal/TedStevens.pdf

OK, I found it. It's the IOC's Tax return Form 990 - Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax for tax year 2007. It uses the P.O. Box in Lausanne, but the return was received by an IRS office in Ogden, Utah.

Its declared net assets at the end of the 2007 tax year was $768,130,000! OMG, that's no small change. (Will see if I can put in Photobcuket later.)

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