baron-pierreIV Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 but you don't have answered me to this IF THE USA WAS IN THE EUROPEAN QUALIFYING ROUND, WHERE WOULD THEY FINISH? THIRD OF GROUP? FOURTH OF GROUP? 2nd at least!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherRob Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 but you don't have answered me to this IF THE USA WAS IN THE EUROPEAN QUALIFYING ROUND, WHERE WOULD THEY FINISH? THIRD OF GROUP? FOURTH OF GROUP? 2nd at least!! :laugh: 2nd at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 2nd at best Now, now -- DON'T speak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherRob Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 2nd at best Don't put words in my mouth, Rob. Speak for yourself -- NOT for me. Most of the first seeds in European groups would probably get 4/6 points from the USA in their two games. That's why I say 2nd at best. Having said that, I think 3rd would be poor for the USA as they are not a bad team by any means. They would probably get a play-off or best second place spot if they were in a European group imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Most of the first seeds in European groups would probably get 4/6 points from the USA in their two games. That's why I say 2nd at best.Having said that, I think 3rd would be poor for the USA as they are not a bad team by any means. They would probably get a play-off or best second place spot if they were in a European group imho. Thank you, Rob, for at least being civil and sometimes humoring me/us. It does get tiring when all one hears from someone is: Madrid this! Madrid that! Madrid and Spain are perfect! They pay for everything! It gets old very quickly. We know we're not among the top 6 right now because we're late to the game and only in the last few years is there really a more rabid following in the US. But give us a few more years. We're raising a whole new breed of bigger (6' and over) and quicker players who are being trained well from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 2nd at best Don't put words in my mouth, Rob. Speak for yourself -- NOT for me. Most of the first seeds in European groups would probably get 4/6 points from the USA in their two games. That's why I say 2nd at best. Having said that, I think 3rd would be poor for the USA as they are not a bad team by any means. They would probably get a play-off or best second place spot if they were in a European group imho. it depends on the group Group 1 - probably third Group 2 - probably second, third if the group player like it should have Group 3 - first or easily second Group 4 - first or second Group 5 - first or second Group 6 - third Group 7 - most likely second Group 8 - again most likely second the USA does have a good team, far better than more than half the Europeans, and probably more competitive than France, Portugal, and Italy going into Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Group 1 - probably thirdGroup 2 - probably second, third if the group player like it should have Group 3 - first or easily second Group 4 - first or second Group 5 - first or second Group 6 - third Group 7 - most likely second Group 8 - again most likely second the USA does have a good team, far better than more than half the Europeans, and probably more competitive than France, Portugal, and Italy going into Germany :wwww: :laugh: I love your jokes Faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRATK Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 I'm surprised at how low the attendence was in France. And even more surprised at Spain!!Judging the success or otherwise of a World Cup is not just a case of looking at attendences though. Yes, but you must remember that most of the stadiums have 40.000 seats, but in US 94 there were about 70.000 each one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 WORLD CUP SOCCER NOTE#Past World Cup Attendances# ---------------------------- YEAR SITE MATCHES TOTAL ATTENDANCE AVERAGE ==== ==== ======= ================ ======= 1998 France 64 2,770,000 43,000 1994 United States 52 3,567,415 68,604 1990 Italy 52 2,514,443 48,354 1986 Mexico 52 2,441,731 43,956 1982 Spain 52 1,856,277 35,698 1978 Argentina 38 1,610,215 42,374 1974 West Germany 38 1,774,022 46,685 1970 Mexico 32 1,673,975 52,312 :glare: 1966 England 32 1,614,677 50,458 1962 Chile 32 776,000 24,250 1958 Sweden 35 868,000 24,800 1954 Switzerland 26 943,000 36,270 1950 Brazil 22 1,337,000 60,772 1938 France 18 483,000 26,833 1934 Italy 17 395,000 23,235 1930 Uruguay 18 434,500 24,139 st 05-30-02 16:00 et Oh, and the 1994 Tournament made, like a $25 million profit and like most international events held in the US -- WITHOUT using taxpayer and public monies. As usual, you open your mouth for nothing, mikel. Look at the figures above. And the 2002 figures (even though held in 18 cities did NOT match the 1994 attendance figures. It is estimated that maybe 2010 MIGHT...read MIGHT...surpass the 1994 figures BUT that depends on actual paid attendance then. The overall stadia in Germany next year will NOT match the seating capacities AND Paid attendance of the 1994 WOrld Cup. You're quite pathetic, mikel. Do you really think I buy the arguments of some kid who comes from a second-rate power like Spain, still thinking of the old glory days of their vanished empire? You still have a bit to learn about the world, mikel. Makes you wonder how Germany 2006 will be like in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceNarcissus Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? :rock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 WORLD CUP SOCCER NOTE#Past World Cup Attendances# ---------------------------- YEAR SITE MATCHES TOTAL ATTENDANCE AVERAGE ==== ==== ======= ================ ======= 1998 France 64 2,770,000 43,000 1994 United States 52 3,567,415 68,604 1990 Italy 52 2,514,443 48,354 1986 Mexico 52 2,441,731 43,956 1982 Spain 52 1,856,277 35,698 1978 Argentina 38 1,610,215 42,374 1974 West Germany 38 1,774,022 46,685 1970 Mexico 32 1,673,975 52,312 :glare: 1966 England 32 1,614,677 50,458 1962 Chile 32 776,000 24,250 1958 Sweden 35 868,000 24,800 1954 Switzerland 26 943,000 36,270 1950 Brazil 22 1,337,000 60,772 1938 France 18 483,000 26,833 1934 Italy 17 395,000 23,235 1930 Uruguay 18 434,500 24,139 st 05-30-02 16:00 et Oh, and the 1994 Tournament made, like a $25 million profit and like most international events held in the US -- WITHOUT using taxpayer and public monies. As usual, you open your mouth for nothing, mikel. Look at the figures above. And the 2002 figures (even though held in 18 cities did NOT match the 1994 attendance figures. It is estimated that maybe 2010 MIGHT...read MIGHT...surpass the 1994 figures BUT that depends on actual paid attendance then. The overall stadia in Germany next year will NOT match the seating capacities AND Paid attendance of the 1994 WOrld Cup. You're quite pathetic, mikel. Do you really think I buy the arguments of some kid who comes from a second-rate power like Spain, still thinking of the old glory days of their vanished empire? You still have a bit to learn about the world, mikel. Makes you wonder how Germany 2006 will be like in this regard. Someone already calculated the numbers for Germany. Even if all matches sold out, they would still not surpass the 1994 record. The stadia aren't all that big. From South Africa's early plans, 2010 -- if they sell out -- will have a chance of topping the 1994 attendance. Ice Narcissus wrote: Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? Well, they're afraid. What else could it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Ice Narcissus wrote: Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? Well, they're afraid. What else could it be? Afraid of you? :laugh: In football? I love your jokes baron! You're so funny when you want! :wwww: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Ice Narcissus wrote: Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? Well, they're afraid. What else could it be? Afraid of you? :laugh: In football? I love your jokes baron! You're so funny when you want! :wwww: At least I'm funny. You're not. :sniffle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Ice Narcissus wrote: Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? Well, they're afraid. What else could it be? Afraid of you? :laugh: In football? I love your jokes baron! You're so funny when you want! :wwww: At least I'm funny. You're not. :sniffle: I don't pretend to be funny :sleepy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Ice Narcissus wrote: Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? Well, they're afraid. What else could it be? Afraid of you? :laugh: In football? I love your jokes baron! You're so funny when you want! :wwww: At least I'm funny. You're not. :sniffle: I don't pretend to be funny :sleepy: Cuz u don't have a sense of humor at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Ice Narcissus wrote: Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? Well, they're afraid. What else could it be? Afraid of you? :laugh: In football? I love your jokes baron! You're so funny when you want! :wwww: At least I'm funny. You're not. :sniffle: I don't pretend to be funny :sleepy: Cuz u don't have a sense of humor at all. Mediterranean people have more humor sense than American (US citizens) people :glare: And of course, more humor sense than Northern Europe citizens, it's something in our character, the humor sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 SUre escapes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceNarcissus Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Mediterranean people have more humor sense than American (US citizens) people :glare: And of course, more humor sense than Northern Europe citizens, it's something in our character, the humor sense... LEBANON, SYRIA, ISRAEL, EGYPT, AND LIBYA SURE TO MAKE ME LAUGH. :wwww: :wwww: :wwww: Please save your anti-anything-that-isn't-Spain stuff for somebody actually from Spain. I'm starting to develop anti-Spanish sentiments with your constant profession of your faux superiority! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatles Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? :rock: We saved your sorry asses from the Nazis in WWII. Europeans just do not know how to kick ass!! :laugh: :unclesam: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceNarcissus Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? :rock: We saved your sorry asses from the Nazis in WWII. Europeans just do not know how to kick ass!! :laugh: :unclesam: Were you talking to me? I'm not European. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherRob Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? :rock: We saved your sorry asses from the Nazis in WWII. Europeans just do not know how to kick ass!! :laugh: :unclesam: Europeans? I thought this was a debate between Spain and the US (well, Baron and Mikel). Don't drag the rest of us in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? :rock: We saved your sorry asses from the Nazis in WWII. Europeans just do not know how to kick ass!! :laugh: :unclesam: Europeans? I thought this was a debate between Spain and the US (well, Baron and Mikel). Don't drag the rest of us in! I only say the correct things of my country, because you say lies of Spain, you are so incult! (not Rob). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why is it so offensive to Europeans to have to compete with the US? :rock: We saved your sorry asses from the Nazis in WWII. Europeans just do not know how to kick ass!! :laugh: :unclesam: Europeans? I thought this was a debate between Spain and the US (well, Baron and Mikel). Don't drag the rest of us in! I only say the correct things of my country, because you say lies of Spain, you are so incult! (not Rob). What the F...ck does "incult" mean? Is this a word that was taught to Spanairds during the Franco era? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 you are so incult! I checked with Tom Cruise. Even he doesn't know what that means. ANd if anybody does, it should be him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 you are so incult! I checked with Tom Cruise. Even he doesn't know what that means. ANd if anybody does, it should be him... O yes! Scientology!!!! ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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