Faster Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 I can see why Australia want to be part of the Asian qualifying zone. The Asian teams have qualified, are: Japan, S.Korea, Iran and Saudia Arabia, with possibly Bahrain joining.Dosen't sound very difficult to qualify through Asia, so we'll be seeing an Australian team at the 2010 world cup, almost definetly. Makes you wonder what state the Chinese team is in, if they didn't qualify. Japan and Iran are very good teams - both could make it well into the tournement Korea has been weaked over the last 3 years - they had a run similar to Greece and look where Greece is now - its no big deal that they got so far - don't try and take away what those players worked so hard for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Makes you wonder what state the Chinese team is in, if they didn't qualify. Men's soccer in China isn't as advanced as the women's, that is why I am wondering why some folks here keep saying China is a viable candidate for the 2018 World Cup - before the US. It is not. Of course, how their under-23 team performs in '08 remains to be seen. But like in volleyball, their women will kick butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 World Cup top seeds as of 19 October*: 1 Brazil 64 points 2 Spain 49 3 Germany 48 4 Mexico 47 5= Argentina 46 5= ENGLAND 46 7= France 45 7= Italy 45 (* Based on Fifa using the system employed to calculate seedings for 1998 and 2002 World Cups) well, that is if Spain makes it. They aren't in as of this date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 World Cup top seeds as of 19 October*: 1 Brazil 64 points 2 Spain 49 3 Germany 48 4 Mexico 47 5= Argentina 46 5= ENGLAND 46 7= France 45 7= Italy 45 (* Based on Fifa using the system employed to calculate seedings for 1998 and 2002 World Cups) well, that is if Spain makes it. They aren't in as of this date. very true. I'd be shocked if they don't make it through though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 World Cup top seeds as of 19 October*: 1 Brazil 64 points 2 Spain 49 3 Germany 48 4 Mexico 47 5= Argentina 46 5= ENGLAND 46 7= France 45 7= Italy 45 (* Based on Fifa using the system employed to calculate seedings for 1998 and 2002 World Cups) BBC article about seedings I don't think it's too harsh to say that all the non-seeded teams will be crossing their fingers and hoping they draw Mexico in the group stages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 I highly doubt that Korea will ever advance as far as they did back when they hosted the world Cup. Exactly, TG we will see if Korea would ever qualify if they played against Southamerican or European teams to qualify. And of course Spain will beat Eslovakia... they hadn't been qualified for any WC or European Cup... (the old Czechoslovakia yes, as well as the new Czech Republic, but no Eslovakia...) :glare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suit U Sir !!! Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 don't try and take away what those players worked so hard for No-one's taking away anything from teams like Korea and Iran (which actually beat Australia in the play-offs to qualify for the 1998 world cup). But you have to admit, that this is a very clever move by the Australian football association to guarantee, which will result in the country almost definetly qualifying for SA 2010. In the 2002 world cup Saudia Arabia lost 8-0 to Germany and 3-0 to Ireland. No doubt Aus will fancy their chances against such teams. Greece's story of having won no matches at the 1994 world cup, then not qualifying for the 1998 and 2002 world cup, then all of a sudden going on to win Euro 2004, is something that won't be very frequently repeated. Does Australia fancy joining the European qualifying group? I doubt it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 No-one's taking away anything from teams like Korea and Iran (which actually beat Australia in the play-offs to qualify for the 1998 world cup).But you have to admit, that this is a very clever move by the Australian football association to guarantee, which will result in the country almost definetly qualifying for SA 2010. In the 2002 world cup Saudia Arabia lost 8-0 to Germany and 3-0 to Ireland. No doubt Aus will fancy their chances against such teams. Greece's story of having won no matches at the 1994 world cup, then not qualifying for the 1998 and 2002 world cup, then all of a sudden going on to win Euro 2004, is something that won't be very frequently repeated. Does Australia fancy joining the European qualifying group? I doubt it..... Wouldn't it be nice and to pick and choose your opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suit U Sir !!! Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Wouldn't it be nice and to pick and choose your opponents? Precisely- that's exactly what they've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Does anybody know, where the teams will resident during the WC? Sweden will resident in Bremen. I have heard rumors, that the US-Team will resident in Hamburg and Brazil want to get paid for their visit in one region of Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Does anybody know, where the teams will resident during the WC?Sweden will resident in Bremen. I have heard rumors, that the US-Team will resident in Hamburg and Brazil want to get paid for their visit in one region of Germany. g, will "base themselves" or "use ____ as their base..." :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintana Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Does anybody know, where the teams will resident during the WC?Sweden will resident in Bremen. I have heard rumors, that the US-Team will resident in Hamburg and Brazil want to get paid for their visit in one region of Germany. The Netherlands will reside in a luxurious hotel somewhere in the Schwarzwald (Black Forest). They will use SC Freiburg's stadium as a training ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 World Cup top seeds as of 19 October*: 1 Brazil 64 points 2 Spain 49 3 Germany 48 4 Mexico 47 5= Argentina 46 5= ENGLAND 46 7= France 45 7= Italy 45 (* Based on Fifa using the system employed to calculate seedings for 1998 and 2002 World Cups) BBC article about seedings I don't think it's too harsh to say that all the non-seeded teams will be crossing their fingers and hoping they draw Mexico in the group stages! The official draws for Germany 2006 occurs in December, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRATK Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I was reading forums about the CONMEBOL qualification for SA 2010 . CONMEBOL is searching a new format of tournament, so in the forum were different options, but I read one that I found interesting, althought it is completly impossible... What do you think about a BIG qualifying tournament joining CONMEBOL and CONCACAF? 4 groups with 5 teams, qualifying to South Africa the top-two of the group. In my opinion, I think it could be great... what is your opinion about this crazy idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I was reading forums about the CONMEBOL qualification for SA 2010 . CONMEBOL is searching a new format of tournament, so in the forum were different options, but I read one that I found interesting, althought it is completly impossible...What do you think about a BIG qualifying tournament joining CONMEBOL and CONCACAF? 4 groups with 5 teams, qualifying to South Africa the top-two of the group. In my opinion, I think it could be great... what is your opinion about this crazy idea? Good because the USA won't qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Good because the USA won't qualify Another amateur opinion from Mikel. BUt OK, if you say so. 'Cuz it means you are afraid of a strong USA team that will come in and whoop your asses. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRATK Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 In fact, I think the idea could be good especially for USA, because a stronger competition that now (Grenada, Saint Kitts, Trinidad and the rest) could boost the football at the United States. Probably, if USA was in the same group of Brazil or Argentina, they will be second, but if they are in a group with Uruguay, Mexico, Paraguay, Colombia or Chile, I think USA have real options of get the first place. Also, USA could prove that they are a real good team and not a overrated team because they play in a zone without good teams (with the exception of Mexico) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I don't know where mikel and that little pimp mexico1968 get this sick idea that the U.S. is some non-active member of the world soccer community when: 1. We are the 3rd most populous country in the world; 2. We staged the MOST SUCCESSFUL World Cup in history so far. 3. The US kicked Mexico's butt 2-0 in Korea. We got to the quarterfinals; Mexico didn't. 4. For 2006, we were among the first 8 in. Spain is still fighting for a spot. 5. Half of our A-list players play in European teams. I guess the little spics must be so afraid of us/U.S. when indeed our new generation gets to play. And you guys better get ready -- our national team will hit its stride in 2010!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 To be fair Baron, point 4 says more about the qualification systems in the two continents than it does about the quality of the US as a footballing nation (I understand you were having a dig at Mikel). Point 2 is a little subjective but it was certainly one of the most succesful world cups. The other points are pretty hard to dispute. Would you want the US (and other North American nations) to join with the South Americans though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 To be fair Baron, point 4 says more about the qualification systems in the two continents than it does about the quality of the US as a footballing nation (I understand you were having a dig at Mikel).Point 2 is a little subjective but it was certainly one of the most succesful world cups. The other points are pretty hard to dispute. Would you want the US (and other North American nations) to join with the South Americans though? As Kratk pointed out, it might be good for our boys. But then again, playing with countries who only live for football is a little disconcerting. But yeah, if it'll toughen and improve our team, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 i see no problems with having one group for all of the Americas - 8.5 spots - though the tournement will probably run like the Asian or African tournement were a few teams get eliminated early than in the final stages have 8 groups of five teams - first place in each group qualifies - best second gets the 0.5 spot - it would give legitamacy to both Mexico and USA, along with allowing for better annual competition for CONCACAF teams Australia is not a sure thing to qualify for 2010 - in Asia i would still give the tops spots to Iran and Japan. Saudi Arabia and Korea are also tough oppenants, and teams are coming on strong in the Asian zone including Kuwait, Bahrain and others. Not to mention if China or India ever got their sh!t together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 2. We staged the MOST SUCCESSFUL World Cup in history so far.4. For 2006, we were among the first 8 in. Spain is still fighting for a spot. 2. Of course it wasn't. The MOST SUCCESSFUL World Cup in history was in 1970 in Mexico, so... 4. We will see if you have to qualify in the European Classification Table... you will finish last of group, like San Marino :laughlong: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 WORLD CUP SOCCER NOTE #Past World Cup Attendances# ---------------------------- YEAR SITE MATCHES TOTAL ATTENDANCE AVERAGE ==== ==== ======= ================ ======= 1998 France 64 2,770,000 43,000 1994 United States 52 3,567,415 68,604 1990 Italy 52 2,514,443 48,354 1986 Mexico 52 2,441,731 43,956 1982 Spain 52 1,856,277 35,698 1978 Argentina 38 1,610,215 42,374 1974 West Germany 38 1,774,022 46,685 1970 Mexico 32 1,673,975 52,312 :glare: 1966 England 32 1,614,677 50,458 1962 Chile 32 776,000 24,250 1958 Sweden 35 868,000 24,800 1954 Switzerland 26 943,000 36,270 1950 Brazil 22 1,337,000 60,772 1938 France 18 483,000 26,833 1934 Italy 17 395,000 23,235 1930 Uruguay 18 434,500 24,139 st 05-30-02 16:00 et Oh, and the 1994 Tournament made, like a $25 million profit and like most international events held in the US -- WITHOUT using taxpayer and public monies. As usual, you open your mouth for nothing, mikel. Look at the figures above. And the 2002 figures (even though held in 18 cities did NOT match the 1994 attendance figures. It is estimated that maybe 2010 MIGHT...read MIGHT...surpass the 1994 figures BUT that depends on actual paid attendance then. The overall stadia in Germany next year will NOT match the seating capacities AND Paid attendance of the 1994 WOrld Cup. You're quite pathetic, mikel. Do you really think I buy the arguments of some kid who comes from a second-rate power like Spain, still thinking of the old glory days of their vanished empire? You still have a bit to learn about the world, mikel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 WORLD CUP SOCCER NOTE#Past World Cup Attendances# ---------------------------- YEAR SITE MATCHES TOTAL ATTENDANCE AVERAGE ==== ==== ======= ================ ======= 1998 France 64 2,770,000 43,000 1994 United States 52 3,567,415 68,604 1990 Italy 52 2,514,443 48,354 1986 Mexico 52 2,441,731 43,956 1982 Spain 52 1,856,277 35,698 1978 Argentina 38 1,610,215 42,374 1974 West Germany 38 1,774,022 46,685 1970 Mexico 32 1,673,975 52,312 :glare: 1966 England 32 1,614,677 50,458 1962 Chile 32 776,000 24,250 1958 Sweden 35 868,000 24,800 1954 Switzerland 26 943,000 36,270 1950 Brazil 22 1,337,000 60,772 1938 France 18 483,000 26,833 1934 Italy 17 395,000 23,235 1930 Uruguay 18 434,500 24,139 st 05-30-02 16:00 et As usual, you open your mouth for nothing, mikel. Look at the figures above, fool. And the 2002 figures (even though held in 18 cities did NOT match the 1994 attendance figures. It is estimated that maybe 2010 MIGHT...read MIGHT...surpass the 1994 figures BUT that depends on actual paid attendance then. The overall stadia in Germany next year will NOT match the seating capacities AND Paid attendance of the 1994 WOrld Cup. You're quite pathetic, mikel. Do you really think I buy the arguments of some kid who comes from a second-rate power like Spain, still thinking of the old glory days of their vanished empire? You still have a bit to learn about the world, mikel. Blah, blah, blah... but you don't have answered me to this IF THE USA WAS IN THE EUROPEAN QUALIFYING ROUND, WHERE WOULD THEY FINISH? THIRD OF GROUP? FOURTH OF GROUP? P.D Spain isn't a second-rate power and I am not thinking of our Empire (To that by chance California, New Mexico, Florida and other States of the US concerned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 I'm surprised at how low the attendence was in France. And even more surprised at Spain!! Judging the success or otherwise of a World Cup is not just a case of looking at attendences though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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