Faster Posted February 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Baron we will probably go down but not much. As long as the funding is still there, we still have a lot of young athlete that did well at these games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 OH yea! Canada the only host nation to have the most number of gold medals in the winter olympics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 So either you win no gold medals at all on home soil or you win more than any other nation in history! It's just all or nothing with you Canucks isn't it? Once again,congrats Canada!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Well I voted 8-15 in the poll, and that turned out to be the right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4seasonscentre Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 ^ The question was how many medals, not how many gold medals, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Mission accomplished Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Owned the top podium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Well I voted 8-15 in the poll, and that turned out to be the right answer. I would advise you to re-read the question that was placed on the poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Owned the top podium. Owned the top step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Owned the golden podium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I would advise you to re-read the question that was placed on the poll Oh well, I perceived it as gold when I voted. I guess it was overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Owned the top step. That's the one that counts, that's the one everyone remembers, and that the one ranks the medal table in most of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 That's the one that counts, that's the one everyone remembers, and that the one ranks the medal table in most of the world. Well just to reiterate: The only time it's ever undisputed is when the the country at the top of the medals table has won the most medals and the most golds (which is ideal). If it's split, you'll always have this debate. I remember talking to this one guy, and he was like "silver and bronze are meaningless. you didn't win". Okay, so then why have silver and bronze medals at all? Why do we tell athletes what an achievement it is, and to be proud, that they won a silver or a bronze medal? If you're going to look it as "gold is all that matters, and anything else is a loss, screw silver, 'screw coming in third'", then let's just dump silver and bronze medals for good! Gold is all that matters, and anything less doesn't count for anything, and makes you a loser! Would sure clear up this medal table debate once and for all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) Well just to reiterate: Well, I go by what the media here and in most places will publish and what Wallechinsky publishes. And I personally believe in the gold standard anyway. Edited February 28, 2010 by Sir Roltel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 And I personally believe in the gold standard anyway. It's ideal to be at the top of both, but the "Gold Standard" negates the value of silver and bronze medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Whoa haha thousands at Yonge Street, closed down parts of Downtown Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's ideal to be at the top of both, but the "Gold Standard" negates the value of silver and bronze medals. Honestly, it's worth a debate on its own. But I just follow the tradition we've always followed here and which I see in most medal rankings in the rest of the world outside the US. It's how Wallechinsky's almanac tables rank as well. And it's not denying the value of silver and bronze, they're used respectively to rank them after ties in gold. There's also fourth placed finishers and later who achieve amazing and inspirational results - all tallies deny those as well. In the end, it's really the golds that are remembered the most - why else would Canada, say, have equated hockey silver with failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Honestly, it's worth a debate on its own. But I just follow the tradition we've always followed here and which I see in most medal rankings in the rest of the world outside the US. It's how Wallechinsky's almanac tables rank as well. And it's not denying the value of silver and bronze, they're used respectively to rank them after ties in gold. There's also fourth placed finishers and later who achieve amazing and inspirational results - all tallies deny those as well. In the end, it's really the golds that are remembered the most - why else would Canada, say, have equated hockey silver with failure. It's not just the U.S. who uses the "most medals" standard. Ironically, it's the standard Canada uses as well. why else would Canada, say, have equated hockey silver with failure. Perhaps because it's their national game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's not just the U.S. who uses the "most medals" standard. Ironically, it's the standard Canada uses as well. The vancouver website started the gaaames on the gold standard. I've mentioned before how weird it was that they switched. Anyway, the thing is, the IOC doesn't recognise any tallies as "official" anyway. It comes down to what you've grown up and are familiar with. I've grown up with the Gold standard, it it matches just about every resource I've collected or consulted over the decades. Anyway, just personally, it's not like whole nations collectively hold their breaths and cross their fingers for silver. Or spontaneous parties break out on the streets for bronze. You guys like your way. Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 The vancouver website started the gaaames on the gold standard. I don't remember it being that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I don't remember it being that way. I was watching and noting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTimeOnly Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 just personally, it's not like whole nations collectively hold their breaths and cross their fingers for silver. Or spontaneous parties break out on the streets for bronze. I guess people should stop telling athletes who won silver or bronze to be proud of themselves and that it's still such an achievement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY20?? Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Who cares? Jesus. No one country officialy "wins" the Games anyway. They should do a point system (1 for bronze, 2 for silver, 3 for gold) to prevent such endless, unimportant debates at the end of every Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I guess people should stop telling athletes who won silver or bronze to be proud of themselves and that it's still such an achievement. Of course we're proud of their achievements and celebrate them as well. But c'mon, don't we always wish they'd gone just that extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainad Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Golds count more than silvers and bronzes.That is why the traditional table has always ranked nations by number of gold medals won irrespective of the totals.Like Roltel that's how I've always remembered it! I don't say that there shouldn't be acknowledgement for the nation who wins the most medals overall and that nearly always seems to be the USA.But it just looks weird to rank it above the one with the most golds.It just doesn't look right! After all,it's the gold medal-winning performance that sets the standard for that sport and which everyone remembers! As to why the IOC website now shows the default medal table by total medals won rather than golds won (as it did for previous Olympics like Beijing) is puzzling.I wonder if it has cut a deal with the USOC along the lines of: You be more flexible about your share of the revenues and we'll adopt your way of presenting the medal table?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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