Lord David Posted April 12, 2010 Report Posted April 12, 2010 I think wherever they plan to hold T&F for the Pan Ams, they should keep in mind a future summer bid using the same venue. Pan Am preps helped Rio tremendously, and it could help Toronto too. Not necessarily. The most I could see for a future Toronto Olympics is that the athletics venue (which for the Pan Ams is the new stadium in Hamilton, could be upgraded for their CFL side (which probably will) for use as a football preliminaries venue. The new velodrome being built in Hamilton could be upgraded for track cycling. A new aquatics center will need to be built, with the one being built for the Pan Ams possibly being used for Waterpolo preliminaries or something. A must, would be that Toronto will need to propose a new large 80,000 seater stadium for both athletics and ceremonies, for use by their CFL side post Olympics, ideally convertible for maximum use for both various types of football as well as athletics, though a post athletics to football only conversion is possible. Using Hamilton as the athletics venue might be possible if it's a joint bid from the two neighboring cities, possibly temporarily upgraded to 60,000. But where would you hold the ceremonies? No doubt a new stadium would be built in Toronto or a temporary site holding at least 60,000, but then again what's the point? Your better off just proposing a new Olympic stadium like the previous bid attempts. Quote
Soaring Posted April 12, 2010 Report Posted April 12, 2010 I was thinking that athletics was going to be held in a larger facility, so your logic seems spot on. In any sense, Toronto should be trying to capitalize on as much as they can between the Pan Ams, and a future Olympic bid. Quote
Texas Posted April 12, 2010 Report Posted April 12, 2010 What are the plans for the Rogers Center during the 2015 Pan Am Games? Quote
Texas Posted April 12, 2010 Report Posted April 12, 2010 Opening ceremonies and baseball. So is baseball at the Pan Am Games done the same way as Olympic baseball? In that the teams are chosen from the Minor Leagues or Winter Leagues? Quote
Texas Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Also, what would be the plan for any Olympic Stadium after the Olympics? Quote
SkiFreak Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Also, what would be the plan for any Olympic Stadium after the Olympics? Heard a rumour that there was interest in getting an NFL team. Quote
dave199 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 The plan always was to use the new Olympic Stadium for the eminent Toronto NFL franchise. Quote
Soaring Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Just curious - How popular is American Football in Canada? Quote
Faster Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) Just curious - How popular is American Football in Canada? We have our own league and its played at almost every high school I can think of. The Grey Cup is also older than any American Championship. Though, at least in Ontario, the sport is being overtaken by rugby in many areas. Edited April 14, 2010 by Faster Quote
4seasonscentre Posted April 15, 2010 Report Posted April 15, 2010 I don't think hosting Athletics in Hamilton will quite cut it for an Olympic bid. They would probably need to build a new stadium in the Olympic Park and possibly downscale it afterwards like with London. Velodrome in Hamilton would probably be ok. Don't know how great the Scarborough aquatics venue will be. Quote
stryker Posted April 17, 2010 Report Posted April 17, 2010 The plan always was to use the new Olympic Stadium for the eminent Toronto NFL franchise. There seems to be a rumor every year that the Buffalo Bills will eventually relocate to Toronto. If I'm not mistaken, the Bills are scheduled to play at least a few exhibition games in Toronto in the coming years. Quote
Texas Posted April 19, 2010 Report Posted April 19, 2010 There seems to be a rumor every year that the Buffalo Bills will eventually relocate to Toronto. If I'm not mistaken, the Bills are scheduled to play at least a few exhibition games in Toronto in the coming years. If Ralph Wilson dies though, all bets are off. If Ralph Wilson dies though, all bets are off. Doh! I meant when! When Ralph Wilson dies though, all bets are off. Quote
Misha Bear Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 I don't think hosting Athletics in Hamilton will quite cut it for an Olympic bid. They would probably need to build a new stadium in the Olympic Park and possibly downscale it afterwards like with London. Velodrome in Hamilton would probably be ok. Don't know how great the Scarborough aquatics venue will be. Exactly, they would have to plan a new closer one. Quote
olympian Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 There seems to be a rumor every year that the Buffalo Bills will eventually relocate to Toronto. If I'm not mistaken, the Bills are scheduled to play at least a few exhibition games in Toronto in the coming years. the bills are already playing a regular season game in toronto. for this coming season they'll be playing the bears for their regular season game. its their third regular season game in toronto. for pre-season game t'll be against the colts in august. Quote
SkiFreak Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 the bills are already playing a regular season game in toronto. for this coming season they'll be playing the bears for their regular season game. its their third regular season game in toronto. for pre-season game t'll be against the colts in august. I'm gonna switch from one type of football to a different type... With the MLS going to Vancouver and then possibly Montreal, what are the chances of the MLS taking up residence in Toronto? Quote
Lord David Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 I'm gonna switch from one type of football to a different type... With the MLS going to Vancouver and then possibly Montreal, what are the chances of the MLS taking up residence in Toronto? Uhh... isn't MLS already in Toronto with Toronto FC? Quote
Aronious Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 We have our own league and its played at almost every high school I can think of. The Grey Cup is also older than any American Championship. Though, at least in Ontario, the sport is being overtaken by rugby in many areas. Really? I didn't realise rugby was growing in popularity in Canada. I assume rugby union, as opposed to rugby league too. Do you ever think we could see a RWC in North America? Perhaps co-hosted by Canada and the USA? Uhh... isn't MLS already in Toronto with Toronto FC? Quote
SkiFreak Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 Uhh... isn't MLS already in Toronto with Toronto FC? Oops, forgot they're in the league. Quote
Lord David Posted April 30, 2010 Report Posted April 30, 2010 Really? I didn't realise rugby was growing in popularity in Canada. I assume rugby union, as opposed to rugby league too. Do you ever think we could see a RWC in North America? Perhaps co-hosted by Canada and the USA? A Rugby World Cup co-hosted by both America and Canada would be interesting, expect a venue format that has 6 American and 6 Canadian venues. As such, I'd be expecting: American Venues: - Any major stadium up north, near Canada, such as those in Seattle, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston etc. Include New York and the Capital, Washington D.C. No venues in the lower half of the US. Canadian Venues: - Mostly at the lower part of Canada, expect Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton, Winnipeg or Regina, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal. As a result, everything, even in the US, will be officially bilingual. All announcements, all signage, all official documents will be in English and French. Due to it's close border with Windsor, Ontario, Detroit, if selected would be officially considered as core Rugby World Cup city. Heck, a Detroit selection could consider itself as Detroit-Windsor for the RWC, even if Windsor doesn't really add anything. To avoid, favoritism, have the opening and closing matches at the capitals, as opposed to the largest cities, perhaps have the opening game at a new 40,000 odd seater at Ottawa, and have the closer at 100,000+ FedExField at Washington DC. Quote
Jim856796 Posted August 9, 2010 Report Posted August 9, 2010 Ceremonies: Toronto National Stadium - 80,000 Archery: new venue Diving: new venue Swimming: new venue Synchronised Swimming: new venue Water Polo: new venue Athletics: Toronto National Stadium - 80,000 Badminton: National Trade Centre Basketball: Toronto Centre - 19,800 Boxing: CNE Coliseum Canoe/Kayak Sprint: Toronto Regatta Centre Canoe/Kayak Slalom: Twelve-Mile Creek, St. Catherines BMX: new venue Mountain Biking: Hardwood Hills Road Cycling: Downtown Toronto Track Cycling: new velodrome at National Trade Centre Equestrian: North Caledon Equestrian Centre Fencing: Metro Toronto Convention Centre Field Hockey: new venue Football: Toronto National Stadium - 80,000, National Soccer Stadium - 21,000, Hamilton Stadium - 40,000, Ottawa Stadium - 35,000, fourth venue to be determined Golf: undetermined venue Artistic Gymnastics: SkyDome - 60,000 Rhythmic Gymnastics: SkyDome - 60,000 Trampolining: SkyDome - 60,000 Handball: National Trade Centre Judo: Metro Toronto Convention Centre Modern Pentathlon: National Soccer Stadium, National Trade Centre Rowing: Toronto Regatta Centre Rugby 7s: National Soccer Stadium - 20,000 Sailing: Olympic Sailing Marina Shooting: new venue Table Tennis: National Trade Centre Taekwondo: National Trade Centre Tennis: National Tennis Stadium - 12,500 Triathlon: Atakoy Marina Beach Volleyball: new venue Indoor Volleyball: National Trade Centre Weightlifting: Molson Amphitheatre - 16,000 Wrestling: National Trade Centre Quote
Jim856796 Posted August 9, 2010 Report Posted August 9, 2010 I have slipped up on the Triathlon venue. It should have been Triathlon: new venue Quote
Texas Posted August 10, 2010 Report Posted August 10, 2010 One of the major advantages of a North American Olympics is that the local sports teams can plan accordingly when those Olympics actually come. And they have seven years to do so. I believe the same situation came up during the Vancouver Olympics. The Canucks were on the road the opening weekend of the Olympics. In 1996, Baseball's Atlanta Braves were on the road for two weeks, in 2002, the NBA's Utah Jazz were also nomads for two weeks. I would guess that same applied to Dodgers and Angels in 1984. In Toronto's case, the Blue Jays would be on the road for two weeks. If Toronto was to make a bid for the Winter Olympics, then the Maple Leafs and Raptors would be nomads. Quote
Kenadian Posted August 10, 2010 Report Posted August 10, 2010 Toronto won't be bidding on the Winter Olympics...ever! There isn't a mountain anywhere in Ontario that could ever meet the requirements for Alpine events. In fact, the whole of Canada east of Alberta has that problem. Outside of BC and Alberta, there is only a single exiting ski hill(Le Massif just outside of Quebec City) that has a chance of hosting the men's downhill. And even that hill is about 30m shy of the required 800m vertical drop. Toronto's ambitions are for the Summer Olympics. And the Raps and Leafs don't play in July or August. Quote
dave199 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Posted August 11, 2010 Toronto won't be bidding on the Winter Olympics...ever! There isn't a mountain anywhere in Ontario that could ever meet the requirements for Alpine events. In fact, the whole of Canada east of Alberta has that problem. Outside of BC and Alberta, there is only a single exiting ski hill(Le Massif just outside of Quebec City) that has a chance of hosting the men's downhill. And even that hill is about 30m shy of the required 800m vertical drop. Toronto's ambitions are for the Summer Olympics. And the Raps and Leafs don't play in July or August. I don't think that user was being serious about a Winter bid. From what I understand, they were just mentioned the other sporting teams had it been for a Winter Olympics. Quote
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