ofan Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I definitely think it would be used for volleyball and the Markam Pan Am Centre could be upgraded to a water polo arena and training site. Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I definitely think it would be used for volleyball and the Markam Pan Am Centre could be upgraded to a water polo arena and training site. I'd tend to agree and its possible it should be explored to create cluster of two sports as opposed to one. Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I agree that Volleyball would most likely be in Markham. Maybe Boxing? Quote
ofan Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I'd tend to agree and its possible it should be explored to create cluster of two sports as opposed to one. Yea rather than just having one stand alone venue. I agree that Volleyball would most likely be in Markham. Maybe Boxing? We've seen in the last couple of games that boxing does not need to be in a 20,000 seat arena. Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I agree that Volleyball would most likely be in Markham. Maybe Boxing? Actually boxing might be the favourite. Easier to move smaller amount of athletes. Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I'd tend to agree and its possible it should be explored to create cluster of two sports as opposed to one. Do you mean 2 clusters of centralized venues? Quote
ofan Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Do you mean 2 clusters of centralized venues? No he means a cluster of 2 venues. A Toronto Olympics would have about at least 5 or 6 clusters based on intoronto's venue plan. Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Do you mean 2 clusters of centralized venues? What I mean is instead of shipping one sport away from the downtown it would be better to send 2-3 to create a cluster. If it were up to me I wouldn;t use the Markham arena but it is being built so it almost has to be used. Quote
ofan Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 What I mean is instead of shipping one sport away from the downtown it would be better to send 2-3 to create a cluster. If it were up to me I wouldn;t use the Markham arena but it is being built so it almost has to be used. Exactly. It would be a waste not to use it if it is built. Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Exactly. It would be a waste not to use it if it is built. It definitely will cut down on venue construction costs for 2024. One big improvement Toronto 2024 would have on its 2008 bid is the city has constructed or is in the process of constructing many venues that were never there back in 2001, more training venues will be in place as well and upgrades to current facilities due to the 2015 Pan Am Games. 1 Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Another thing I wanted to note is Toronto will have a newly expanded and revitalized convention centre built by 2024. Metro Toronto Convention Centre (MTCC) has been listed to be a host venue for the Olympics so this would be very noteworthy. Oxford is investing $3 Billion plus into this while the Sands, who will build up the entertainment portion of this, will invest another $2 Billion plus. Fully funded by the private sector, Oxford Place would be one of the largest urban redevelopment projects in North America. The plan includes: a revitalized and expanded convention centre; significant new retail, office and residential space; 4,000 new sub grade parking stalls; and an integrated casino and hotel complex. The casino itself would comprise less than 10% of the project and would be funded, built and operated by the casino operator selected by the Province. A new 5.5 acre urban park connecting the core to the waterfront is contemplated over the existing rail corridor. Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Exclusive: Toronto 2015 could lead to Olympic bid if conditions are right predicts Crooks January 30 - Charmaine Crooks, Canada's five-time Olympian and a former International Olympic Committee (IOC) member, believes that a successful Toronto 2015 Pan and Parapan American Games could facilitate a bid from the city for the Olympics and Paralympics but stressed the whole country would need be behind it. The 50-year-old Jamaican-born former 400 metre runner, who won a silver medal in the 4x400m relay at the Los Angeles 1984 Olympics, is now a Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) Executive Board member while she is also President and founder of NGU Consultants, the sports marketing, management and corporate consulting company working on Toronto 2015.Toronto has twice bid to host the Summer Olympics Games - the first coming in 1996 when they finished third behind Atlanta and the second in 2008 when they were runners-up behind Beijing.Many experts believe a successful Pan and Parapan American Games in the city could finally lead to a winning bid for Toronto in 2024 or 2028, as happened for Rio de Janeiro following the 2007 Pan American Games, but Crooks said that a successful bid would require the full support of Canada."I think in terms of a Toronto or Canada bid, we have to think very strategically and we have to be very focused," Crooks told insidethegames here."A bid would have to have the full consultation of the Canadian Olympic Committee of course and also have the support of all different levels of Government so that it was a unified national priority."We also have to look at the geopolitical climate at the time when we bid and ask ourselves if it was a good time to bid if we wanted success."They are all real considerations in a bid – the economy, legacy, timing and the capacity to be able to deliver that."So if all those things line up, and if they line up with a good economic story and a good legacy story, then I think it is important to support bids in the future for Canada going forwards because it does have spin off benefits across the country."The excitement from the Vancouver 2010 Winter Games has given us an appetite to do more because we have seen the impact that it can have and also seen that it helps develop sport for a nation, which is something I am very passionate about."But it is a very competitive landscape bidding for major sport projects around the world so you have to do it properly." Crooks also believes that Toronto 2015 are well on track to stage a great Pan and Parapan American Games and predicted it will be another great chapter in Canada's sporting history following Vancouver 2010. "We are fortunate in Canada that we hosted one of the best Winter [Olympic] Games to date in Vancouver 2010 in terms of our legacy building and how we told a true Canadian legacy story," said Crooks, a director on the Vancouver 2010 Organising Committee."That story now continues onto Toronto 2015 where will get to showcase that again."It really is a road to Rio 2016 for a lot of us and also a road from Vancouver that shows that we in Canada believe bridging Summer and Winter Games."I think the Pan Am Games can bring the same benefits as the Olympics and Paralympics in terms of tourism, economic development and in creating new role models."Hosting a sporting event in a country showcases so much more than just athletes; it showcases an entire country and illustrates what that country can achieve." Edited January 31, 2013 by intoronto1125 1 Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I wanted to share some renders of the multi-billion $ redevelopment project which includes the MTCC. Looks good and this is a massive project that will benefit Toronto in many fields including its 2024 Olympic bid. 1 Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Those renderings are stunning. How much bigger is the MTCC getting? (would be the site of fencing, judo taekwondo and the main media centre. Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Those renderings are stunning. How much bigger is the MTCC getting? (would be the site of fencing, judo taekwondo and the main media centre. 1 million sq ft Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) 1 million sq ft 1 million sq ft More than now? Edited January 31, 2013 by intoronto1125 Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 1 million sq ft More than now? That's the total in sq footage. The increase from this expansion is 0.5million sq ft 1 Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 That's the total in sq footage. The increase from this expansion is 0.5million sq ft Mind clearing your inbox lol? Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 Mind clearing your inbox lol? done Quote
Gucci Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I see that it has begun. You'll be seeing more media reports throughout the next couple months. Exclusive: Toronto 2015 could lead to Olympic bid if conditions are right predicts Crooks January 30 - Charmaine Crooks, Canada's five-time Olympian and a former International Olympic Committee (IOC) member, believes that a successful Toronto 2015 Pan and Parapan American Games could facilitate a bid from the city for the Olympics and Paralympics but stressed the whole country would need be behind it. The 50-year-old Jamaican-born former 400 metre runner, who won a silver medal in the 4x400m relay at the Los Angeles 1984 Olympics, is now a Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) Executive Board member while she is also President and founder of NGU Consultants, the sports marketing, management and corporate consulting company working on Toronto 2015.Toronto has twice bid to host the Summer Olympics Games - the first coming in 1996 when they finished third behind Atlanta and the second in 2008 when they were runners-up behind Beijing.Many experts believe a successful Pan and Parapan American Games in the city could finally lead to a winning bid for Toronto in 2024 or 2028, as happened for Rio de Janeiro following the 2007 Pan American Games, but Crooks said that a successful bid would require the full support of Canada."I think in terms of a Toronto or Canada bid, we have to think very strategically and we have to be very focused," Crooks told insidethegames here."A bid would have to have the full consultation of the Canadian Olympic Committee of course and also have the support of all different levels of Government so that it was a unified national priority."We also have to look at the geopolitical climate at the time when we bid and ask ourselves if it was a good time to bid if we wanted success."They are all real considerations in a bid – the economy, legacy, timing and the capacity to be able to deliver that."So if all those things line up, and if they line up with a good economic story and a good legacy story, then I think it is important to support bids in the future for Canada going forwards because it does have spin off benefits across the country."The excitement from the Vancouver 2010 Winter Games has given us an appetite to do more because we have seen the impact that it can have and also seen that it helps develop sport for a nation, which is something I am very passionate about."But it is a very competitive landscape bidding for major sport projects around the world so you have to do it properly." Crooks also believes that Toronto 2015 are well on track to stage a great Pan and Parapan American Games and predicted it will be another great chapter in Canada's sporting history following Vancouver 2010. "We are fortunate in Canada that we hosted one of the best Winter [Olympic] Games to date in Vancouver 2010 in terms of our legacy building and how we told a true Canadian legacy story," said Crooks, a director on the Vancouver 2010 Organising Committee."That story now continues onto Toronto 2015 where will get to showcase that again."It really is a road to Rio 2016 for a lot of us and also a road from Vancouver that shows that we in Canada believe bridging Summer and Winter Games."I think the Pan Am Games can bring the same benefits as the Olympics and Paralympics in terms of tourism, economic development and in creating new role models."Hosting a sporting event in a country showcases so much more than just athletes; it showcases an entire country and illustrates what that country can achieve." Another thing I wanted to note is Toronto will have a newly expanded and revitalized convention centre built by 2024. Metro Toronto Convention Centre (MTCC) has been listed to be a host venue for the Olympics so this would be very noteworthy. Oxford is investing $3 Billion plus into this while the Sands, who will build up the entertainment portion of this, will invest another $2 Billion plus. Fully funded by the private sector, Oxford Place would be one of the largest urban redevelopment projects in North America. The plan includes: a revitalized and expanded convention centre; significant new retail, office and residential space; 4,000 new sub grade parking stalls; and an integrated casino and hotel complex. The casino itself would comprise less than 10% of the project and would be funded, built and operated by the casino operator selected by the Province. A new 5.5 acre urban park connecting the core to the waterfront is contemplated over the existing rail corridor. I really like this project. It will transform this part of downtown and will change Toronto's skyline big time. It's a great idea to develop downtown parkland and over old railland. The expansion of the convention centre is needed. Quote
ofan Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 I see that it has begun. You'll be seeing more media reports throughout the next couple months. I really like this project. It will transform this part of downtown and will change Toronto's skyline big time. It's a great idea to develop downtown parkland and over old railland. The expansion of the convention centre is needed. How do you know so much inside information about the Toronto bid? Quote
intoronto Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 When exactly is the final report out. Quote
dave199 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Posted January 31, 2013 When exactly is the final report out. It's been reported that it should come out in early March. Quote
intoronto Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 Report will be released next month. I think in early March. Quote
dave199 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Posted February 10, 2013 Isn't that what I already said? lol Quote
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