dave199 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 A world cup is a multi city hosting versus one city hosting. I doubt that they have the resources to concentrate on working on simultaneous bids and winning both and preparing for both in a time period that will overlap each other. It's way too much for a nation, especially an African nation at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 /\/\ Well, then RSA or Durban may skip CWG 2022. I just think it would result in a more seasoned staging of an OG. It would, but the bid timeline hurts them. Because the deadline to accept candidates for the 2024 Olympics occurs before the vote for the 2022 CWG, part of South Africa's play for the Olympics would obviously be based on the CWG. But at that point, they won't know if they have them yet. So what happens if they enter an Olympics race and then don't land the Commonwealth Games. Then you're letting the air out of the balloon and suddenly 1 of your potential selling points for 2024 is out the window. I agree that the CWG could be a good exercise in preparation for an Olympics just like it was for Rio. But it worked for them with the events 9 years apart. I understand the logic about re-using things such as an athlete's village and the like. A 2 year separation just seems too short for 2 multi-sport events in the same city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 It would, but the bid timeline hurts them. Because the deadline to accept candidates for the 2024 Olympics occurs before the vote for the 2022 CWG, part of South Africa's play for the Olympics would obviously be based on the CWG. But at that point, they won't know if they have them yet. So what happens if they enter an Olympics race and then don't land the Commonwealth Games. Then you're letting the air out of the balloon and suddenly 1 of your potential selling points for 2024 is out the window. I agree that the CWG could be a good exercise in preparation for an Olympics just like it was for Rio. But it worked for them with the events 9 years apart. I understand the logic about re-using things such as an athlete's village and the like. A 2 year separation just seems too short for 2 multi-sport events in the same city. Rio hosted Pan Ams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Rio hosted Pan Ams. Close enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Really? You guys feel that neglected as a country & don't account 1988 & 2010 for meaning anything? Don't think the IOC would view that the same way. No, I meant the city of Toronto. We haven't had a championship major professional sports team since 1993, except for in the CFL, and the losses in 2008 and 1996 were devestating. Point is, Toronto hasn't had a lot going for it athletically recently. Toronto 2015 will be a huge event for the city to possibly change this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 No, I meant the city of Toronto. We haven't had a championship major professional sports team since 1993, except for in the CFL, and the losses in 2008 and 1996 were devestating. Point is, Toronto hasn't had a lot going for it athletically recently. Toronto 2015 will be a huge event for the city to possibly change this. lol complete misunderstanding. The Leafs who havent won a cup since 67 came back to force a game 7 last night, were winning 4-1 with 9mins left and lost. This is why people jokingly suggested we need the Games cuz the Leafs lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 lol complete misunderstanding. The Leafs who havent won a cup since 67 came back to force a game 7 last night, were winning 4-1 with 9mins left and lost. This is why people jokingly suggested we need the Games cuz the Leafs lost. It's very hard to be a Toronto sports fan lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 The city offers way more than a narrative of "We want to be the first country to host in our poor continent". For Toronto's sake, I hope you're not in anyway a voice of the bid. The above sentiment is pure bid killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 For Toronto's sake, I hope you're not in anyway a voice of the bid. The above sentiment is pure bid killer. Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic Fan Darcy Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 For Toronto's sake, I hope you're not in anyway a voice of the bid. The above sentiment is pure bid killer.It came out wrong but in some small small ways its true. Africa as a continent and south Africa alone should spend money elsewhere instead of an Olympic games just like India should've instead of the 2010 commonwealth games. The country still has numerous issues to be fixed and Olympics shouldn't be a priority. They'd win because Africa is the last frontier but not always the most suited host like Rio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Whatever. That's what Mel Lastman said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 For Toronto's sake, I hope you're not in anyway a voice of the bid. The above sentiment is pure bid killer. It's true. Obviously I wouldn't be the voice of the bid..lol I'm not being politically correct on these boards cause I have no need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Wow, & yet you guys want to "welcome" that "poor world" to your city. What Olympic Spirit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Wow, & yet you guys want to "welcome" that "poor world" to your city. What Olympic Spirit! I'll welcome you with arms wide open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 I'll welcome you with arms wide open -__- Toronto's large African community would welcome African teams with open arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 -__- Toronto's large African community would welcome African teams with open arms. True. And I bet you can count on Caribana style parties too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Toronto's large community of every other ethnicity will be welcoming too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Question to the other Toronto members. What's your ethnic background? Were you born in Toronto? I was born in Toronto with a 100% Italian background as both parents immigrated here from Italy back in the 1950's. We can surely bet that Toronto will be using the "We're the most multi-cultural city in the World" line. Info on Toronto's multicultural demographics: The demographics of Toronto make Toronto one of the most multicultural cities in the world. A majority of Torontonians claim their ethnic origin[3] as, either in whole or in part, from England (12.9%), China (12.0%), Canada (11.3%), Ireland (9.7%), Scotland (9.5%), India (7.6%), Italy (6.9%), the Philippines (5.5%), Germany (4.6%), France (4.5%), Poland (3.8%), Portugal (3.6%), and Jamaica (3.2%), or are of Jewish ethnic origin (3.1%). There is also a significant population of Ukrainians (2.5%), Russians (2.4%), Sri Lankans (2.3%), Spanish (2.2%), Greeks (2.2%), people from the British Isles in general (2.0%), Koreans (1.5%), Dutch (1.5%), Iranians (1.4%), Vietnamese (1.4%), Pakistanis (1.2%), Hungarians (1.2%), Guyanese (1.1%), and Welsh (1.0%). Communities of Afghans, Arabs, Barbadians, Bengalis, Bulgarians, Colombians, Croats, Ecuadorians, Grenadians, Mexicans, Romanians, Salvadorans, Serbs, Somalis, Tibetans, Trinidadians, and Vincentians are also to be found throughout the city. Neighbourhoods such as Chinatown, Corso Italia, Little India, Greektown, Koreatown, Little Jamaica, Little Portugal and Roncesvalles are examples of these large ethno-cultural populations While English is the predominant language spoken by Torontonians, Statistics Canada reports that other language groups are significant (in order), including the Chinese languages (particularly Cantonese and Mandarin), Italian, Punjabi, Spanish, Tagalog, Urdu, Tamil, Portuguese, Persian, Arabic, Russian, Polish, Gujarati, Korean, Vietnamese, and Greek. Toronto is the world's most multicultural city. In 2004, the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) ranked Toronto second, behind Miami, Florida, in its list of the world's cities with the largest percentage of foreign-born population. Miami's foreign-born population is dominated by those of Cuban and Latin American descent, unlike Toronto's foreign-born population, which is not dominated by any particular ethnic group. The 2011 National Household Survey (NHS) indicates that 49.1% of Toronto's population is composed of visible minorities; 1,264,395 non-Whites, or 20.2% of Canada's visible minority population, live in the City of Toronto; of this, approximately 70% are of Asian ancestry. Top 20 Ethnic Origins Populations in Toronto (CMA 2011) 1.English 777,110 14.1% 2.Canadian 728,745 13.2% 3.Chinese 594,735 10.8% 4.East Indian 572,250 10.4% 5.Scottish 545,365 9.9% 6.Irish 543,600 9.8% 7.Italian 475,090 8.6% 8.German 262,830 4.8% 9.French 249,375 4.5% 10.Filipino 246,345 4.5% 11.Polish 214.455 3.9% 12.Portuguese 196,975 3.6% 13.Jamaican 177,305 3.2% 14.Jewish 137,165 2.5% 15.Ukrainian 130,350 2.4% 16.Russian 118,090 2.1% 17.Spanish 105,740 1.9% 18.Sri Lankan 104,980 1.9% 19.British Isles 104,070 1.9% 20.Dutch 98,925 1.8% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Dave - so nobody in Toronto speaks French? You'd like it would at least appear on the list... somewhere above Gajari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Gajari? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walei Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'm ethnically Chinese but was born in Taiwan so I consider my original nationality Taiwanese or Republic of China, and my family immigrated to Toronto when I was 9. I think Toronto really need to think of a way to play up the multiculturalism and tie it into why this is important to the IOC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofan Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'm a first generation Canadian on my mom's side and was born in Toronto but not raised there. Everyone else in her family was born in either Hungary or the US. Other than that I'm mostly Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacktrojan3921 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 It's very hard to be a Toronto sports fan lol Even though the Toronto Blue Jays won the world series in 92 and 93? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 Hmm, hasn't been a lot of Olympic talk coming out of Toronto this week. Must be preoccupied with some other issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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