gotosy 493 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Fantastic Lysacek! Also congrats Takahashi Daisuke for bornze! Link to post Share on other sites
gotosy 493 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Plushenko says might quit sports after Olympic silver Russia's Evgeni Plushenko, who hoped to become the first repeat men's Olympic gold medalist since 1952, but won silver in the free skate in Vancouver, said on Friday he might quit sports. Plushenko, 27, said figure skating has changed and he may quit the sport. "This may be my last competition. We will see," he said. "It is hard to say anything as I was sure I had won my second Olympics. With the old [judging] system... A quadruple jump is a quadruple jump," he said. "I'm not ready to skate well and then lose. The [judging] system needs to be changed. This is men's figure skating and not pairs. I am not ready to lose with a quadruple jump." "It's clear why the judging system was changed because the United States and Canada don't have anyone who can do a quadruple jump," Plushenko said. But Plushenko said he was happy to return to the ice and skate in Vancouver. http://en.rian.ru/sports/20100219/157937797.html Link to post Share on other sites
canuckfan 4 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Plushenko says might quit sports after Olympic silver Russia's Evgeni Plushenko, who hoped to become the first repeat men's Olympic gold medalist since 1952, but won silver in the free skate in Vancouver, said on Friday he might quit sports. Plushenko, 27, said figure skating has changed and he may quit the sport. "This may be my last competition. We will see," he said. "It is hard to say anything as I was sure I had won my second Olympics. With the old [judging] system... A quadruple jump is a quadruple jump," he said. "I'm not ready to skate well and then lose. The [judging] system needs to be changed. This is men's figure skating and not pairs. I am not ready to lose with a quadruple jump." "It's clear why the judging system was changed because the United States and Canada don't have anyone who can do a quadruple jump," Plushenko said. But Plushenko said he was happy to return to the ice and skate in Vancouver. http://en.rian.ru/sports/20100219/157937797.html He could simply have said: "All my landings were shaky today so I didn't deserve it, even with the quad. Evan was the best and I'd like to congratulate him". I guess not... And I'm impressed with how much power the USA and Canada have in the skating world. Joubert also said that the scoring system was designed to give an advantage to the North Americans. Link to post Share on other sites
protmn 1 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 hey, guys...now answer to me how person with weaker skill (he possibly can't jump quad) can be the champion? "shaking" isn't "failing", right? Or let's have a look at short programme...or we count shaking only in second programme? huh...your comment just politisized russophobia 1 Link to post Share on other sites
canuckfan 4 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 hey, guys...now answer to me how person with weaker skill (he possibly can't jump quad) can be the champion? "shaking" isn't "failing", right? Or let's have a look at short programme...or we count shaking only in second programme? huh...your comment just politisized russophobia Each elements are given points. Plushenko got more points for his jumping elements because they were more difficult. Lycasek's elements were executed better, so he got more points for the quality of execution. At the end of the day, quality > difficulty, but only barely. There's nothing "russophobic" about that. And I can't believe I'm actually defending Lycasek 1 Link to post Share on other sites
protmn 1 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I know how to count up to 10 and you know how to count up to 8, and you counting faster than me! But it is faster only because you are counting less numbers, ok? Link to post Share on other sites
protmn 1 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Each elements are given points. Plushenko got more points for his jumping elements because they were more difficult. Lycasek's elements were executed better, so he got more points for the quality of execution. At the end of the day, quality > difficulty, but only barely. There's nothing "russophobic" about that. And I can't believe I'm actually defending Lycasek It wasn't adressed to u. Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) Of course, I would overhaul the scoring system so that: Costume..............50% Music................25% Hairstyle........... 5%% Interview style.......5% Facebook/webpage.....10% Skating ability.......5% I think that's fair. Edited February 19, 2010 by baron-pierreIV Link to post Share on other sites
Citius Altius Fortius 560 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Of course, I would overhaul the scoring system so that: Costume..............50% Music................25% Hairstyle........... 5%% Interview style.......5% Fcebook or webpage...10% Skating ability.......5% I think that's fair. Don't forget the colour of the skating shoe... Link to post Share on other sites
747 56 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 hey, guys...now answer to me how person with weaker skill (he possibly can't jump quad) can be the champion? "shaking" isn't "failing", right? Or let's have a look at short programme...or we count shaking only in second programme? huh...your comment just politisized russophobia The Russian is so obnoxious and his jumps looked like hell in the long.....not to mention his sleazy excruciatingly unappealing gyrations. ewwwww. p.s. please hit my negative reputation button, I want to accumulate as many negatives points as possible. (those Russians are a nightmare, Sochi is going to be about as friendly as a concentration camp.) Link to post Share on other sites
747 56 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I can only think of one country more obnoxious than Russia (no not the US). I'll tell you later. Link to post Share on other sites
canuckfan 4 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Of course, I would overhaul the scoring system so that: Costume..............50% Music................25% Hairstyle........... 5%% Interview style.......5% Facebook/webpage.....10% Skating ability.......5% I think that's fair. In this day and age, Facebook/webpage/twitter should be worth AT LEAST 25%! Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 (those Russians are a nightmare, Sochi is going to be about as friendly as a concentration camp.) I tell ya....wehn I worked at the UN, they were the most paranoid, unfriendly bunch. Oy! And some of them smelled of vodka showing up at work!! In this day and age, Facebook/webpage/twitter should be worth AT LEAST 25%! I skate corrected!! Link to post Share on other sites
protmn 1 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 The Russian is so obnoxious and his jumps looked like hell in the long.....not to mention his sleazy excruciatingly unappealing gyrations. ewwwww. p.s. please hit my negative reputation button, I want to accumulate as many negatives points as possible. (those Russians are a nightmare, Sochi is going to be about as friendly as a concentration camp.) I don't like his appearence too. But in terms of skating... I do not think that Sochi olympic games somehow connected with the results of Vancouver. At least judgement is problem of IOC not Canada, canadiens, the USA and americans. Russians are equal to another europeans... I tell ya....wehn I worked at the UN, they were the most paranoid, unfriendly bunch. Oy! And some of them smelled of vodka showing up at work!! I skate corrected!! Have they played balalaika in office? If not they were nor russians)) Link to post Share on other sites
FYI 1191 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Plushenko: A sore loser? Sure seems like it - http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-features/news/newsid=430590.html?__source=msnhomepage>1=39003 If this is anything of a preshow to Sochi, the Sochi Winter Games are going to be a real farce. Link to post Share on other sites
Hachiko 0 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Take that, Rossiya! Time for a little frozen foxtrot and Coast Mountain Swing! Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 ...and Plushenko is not a real person but merely a hologram. Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Virtue and Moir posted a personal best score and are 1 point behind the leaders from Russia after the Compulsory Dance. They've set themselves up nice for their other two dances which are their strongest. Let's cross our fingers for Canadian Gold here. Link to post Share on other sites
Faster 545 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Nah it will be mailed in to the Russians like at the world championships. The Americans will come up to Silver and Moir and Virtue will settle for bronze. Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 It's nice to know Ms.Cleo is an active member here at these boards. Link to post Share on other sites
Faster 545 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 It's nice to know Ms.Cleo is an active member here at these boards. Ya darlin', Miss. Cleo is here for all your prediction needs. But it doesn't take no psychic to know this competition is crookeder than a dogs hind leg. There ain't no way that those Russians should have gotten that score. Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 Ya darlin', Miss. Cleo is here for all your prediction needs. But it doesn't take no psychic to know this competition is crookeder than a dogs hind leg. There ain't no way that those Russians should have gotten that score. Yeah I was surprised that they scored better than Davis & White. Virtue & Moir's Compulsory Dance was much better too. I'd even say Belbin & Agosto were better than the Russians. Link to post Share on other sites
canuckfan 4 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 I think the results bode well for Virtue/Moir. The strenght of the russians is the first dance. If it was rigged, they would lead by more than that. Link to post Share on other sites
dave199 57 Posted February 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 lol..All I'm saying the Canadians and Americans skated much better tonight. The Gold medal is still up for grabs. Virtue/Moir are more stronger in the Original Dance and Free Dance. I think they'll win the Gold especially on home ice. Canada has to win 1 Gold medal in Figure Skating at these Games. Link to post Share on other sites
Faster 545 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 I would be happy for a silver too, just not a bronze. But than again rather a bronze than no medal. Link to post Share on other sites
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