arwebb Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 One that we know of out of how many IOC members? 117 is it? That's about as low as it can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Only one that was recognised in public. But I assume there are about 20 of them who are too old and have lost their power. This is the same for UEFA and FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Do you always think the worst of these bodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 One that we know of out of how many IOC members? 117 is it? That's about as low as it can get. 115 so far. After Torino 2006, however, this number will change. Foremost of this is the addition of 2 new ones from the athletes' side. They will be chosen amongst the 15 candidates. Of course, there are the ones that will end their terms as IOC members while others will be determined later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 It´s not the question, if Madrid would have won, I only want to say that there has something to change in these big organisations. Sure, #### happens and mistakes are only human. But I want to have these mistakes reduced to an absolutely minimum. Think on the decision for WC 2006 in Germany. This was something similar. What's te big deal zeneca? Have you never made a mistake? Hit the wrong key on a keyboard? Ticked the wrong box on a questionaire? Entered a wrong digit using an ATM? As Arwebb said, one mitstake out of 115 (over four rounds of voting, so that's about 460) _ that's better than the expected margin of error in any poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 The world belongs to the younger ones not to the older ones which should go into pension with about 65 years. Most of them are powered out. What do they expect from future as most of them already have lived their live. We need younger one´s with new ideas and visions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Wisdom comes with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 I do hope you never take charge of a major company. Given your seeming intolerance for any mistakes, you'd get through staff quicker than any businessman ever. As I said in a previous post to Z, if he is this driven (and driven mad) by errors of int'l sporting organizations, he would probably do well to set up an auditing business to oversee and catch such faux pas in int'l sporting organizations so that they may never happen again. AMd he'll stop ranting and raving here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 I´m a fan of the rotation principle and of permanent renewal. I.e. what do you expect from a person like Havelange? And there are a lot of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 I do hope you never take charge of a major company. Given your seeming intolerance for any mistakes, you'd get through staff quicker than any businessman ever. As I said in a previous post to Z, if he is this driven (and driven mad) by errors of int'l sporting organizations, he would probably do well to set up an auditing business to oversee and catch such faux pas in int'l sporting organizations so that they may never happen again. AMd he'll stop ranting and raving here!! For once I agree with you. The question is, though, what would he do if he found anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Heureka, he got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 a new accident in one of the WC stadiums in Germany. A short list of accidents happened until today: - 12 Feb 05: part of the roof in Kasierslautern fell down and injured some people - 29 June 05: in Frankfurt the roof get some big holes because of the rain - 1 Oct 05: same problem in Frankfurt as in June. Also the roof couldn´t be closed because of computer problems - 25 Oct 05: in Nuernberg parts of the tribune came down - 3 Dec 05: again in Kaiserslautern there were same holes in the roof -28 Dec 05: Kaiserslautern: a workingman fell from the roof because of some holes there. I think this didn´t happen by accident. FIFA and EU should have a look at this issues and let have checked it accurately. Blatter already has talked about this with the OC. But the OC has to investigate in this in a much better way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Let´s hope that in 2006 the big sport organisations like IOC, FIFA and UEFA will work close together with EU with new ideas, projects etc. All athlets, coaches and spectators will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Let´s hope that in 2006 the big sport organisations like IOC, FIFA and UEFA will work close together with EU with new ideas, projects etc. All athlets, coaches and spectators will be happy. With Torino in February and Germany for June/July, the Europeans will be having a blast hosting these 2 big events within the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Sure, these are one of the biggest sport events followed by football EC 2008 in Switzerland/Austria. They have a lot to do to get this well organized. But they will be successfull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Garmsich-Partenkirchen will build a new skijumping venue which will be ready to use in 2008. This is also a god point for a possible bid of Munich for 2018 as Munich want to work together with Garmisch-P. in this bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 According to UEFA´s website, UEFA is well prepared for a continued cooperation with EU and to solve all it´s projects and programs (i.e. culture, politics). This should be a sign for the other big organisations like IOC, FIFA etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 We are waiting until Munich´s mayor Christian Ude takes the initiative, together with German NOC, for a bid of Munich for 2018. Munich will be an excellent and very experienced candidates who is able to host big sport events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 If he ever does. Has he said he's interested in 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Munich´s mayor C. Ude already has shown his interest in last year. If it would be only his decision Munich already has announced it´s bid for 2018. The problem is the German NOC which is dominated by the summer sport people who prefer to have Summer Games. But this is not realistic before 2024, maybe 2036. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 the right direction ... Platini shows were the match should go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 sorry, wrong forum .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 the German NOC which is dominated by the summer sport people who prefer to have Summer Games. But this is not realistic before 2024, maybe 2036. No, that's very realistic whenever they want to bid _ in fact, 2036 might be the worst year for them to go for it _ the IOC doesn't like centennial anniversaries, and the anniversary of 1936 is one of the worst of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Ok, IOC don´t like these anniversaries. But after the Nazi-Games it would be a good chance to do it better. After London 2012 (which is an anniversary, but I don´t think that this was a reason why London won) when there will be the next Games in Europe? The continental rotation is not official but it would be unfair to give the majority part of the Games to Europe (and North America) only. So the next Games in Europe should be 2020, more realistic 2024. And there is a huge number of candidates for the next Summer Games in Europe. Think about Rome, Paris, Madrid, Amsterdam and so on. They all want to host Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Ok, IOC don´t like these anniversaries. But after the Nazi-Games it would be a good chance to do it better. After London 2012 (which is an anniversary, but I don´t think that this was a reason why London won) when there will be the next Games in Europe? The continental rotation is not official but it would be unfair to give the majority part of the Games to Europe (and North America) only. So the next Games in Europe should be 2020, more realistic 2024. And there is a huge number of candidates for the next Summer Games in Europe. Think about Rome, Paris, Madrid, Amsterdam and so on.They all want to host Games. London 2012 is NOT an anniversary _ London hosted before in 1908 and 1948. And yes, of course many European cities will be competing for games in the 2020s. And Berlin would be one of the strongest of them. Are you saying you would be disappointed if Germany won the games of 2020 or 2024 because you are so set on them for 2036? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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