2030 Commonwealth Games

[Sir Rols]

Don't get too excited about this, they bring this up about once a year.

Push for Adelaide to bid to host 2030 Commonwealth Games

SOUTH Australia needs to get serious about launching a bid for the Commonwealth Games and building an indoor stadium next to Adelaide Oval, prominent businessman Rob Gerard says.

The well-known sporting philanthropist says securing the 2030 Games would trigger a rush of transport and housing projects that would create up to 41,000 jobs.

Mr Gerard said transforming Memorial Drive into a covered stadium to host tennis, basketball and other sports was among the projects required to host the games.

It is understood Sports Minister Leon Bignell met with representatives of the Commonwealth Games Association behind closed doors on Tuesday.

Mr Gerard said the Federal Government’s decision to build Australia’s next submarine fleet in Adelaide was only part of the cure to SA’s economic woes.

“The submarines won’t fix the state but that, paired with getting the Games, could,” Mr Gerard said.

“If we don’t do it, we’re stuffed.

“(A Games bid) needs council, State Government and Federal Government signatures but it is there for the taking.”

Tennis SA is in talks with the State Government about redeveloping Memorial Drive, but details of the plan are confidential at this stage but it is understood it includes designs for a multi-sports hub.

Mr Gerard said the State Government needed to seriously consider urban designer David Cooke’s study, completed in August last year, into growing SA’s economy on the back the Games.

The study, Short Term Games, Long Term Gains, said hosting the Games in Adelaide and building the required infrastructure would cost about $2.6 billion but deliver an economic boost of about $4.4 billion, including creating 41,000 jobs, over a decade.

Adelaide was beaten by Kuala Lumpur to stage the 1998 Commonwealth Games.

In 2008, the Rann Government withdrew from the race to host the 2018 Games after former treasurer Kevin Foley labelled them “a B-grade event”.

Mr Bignell last week said the Commonwealth Games were “not a priority at this stage”.

He would not comment on the economic modelling in Mr Cooke’s study.

“There is no update on a bid to host the Commonwealth Games,” Mr Bignell said in an emailed statement.

“The earliest Adelaide could host a Commonwealth Games is 2030, and it is not a priority at this stage given decisions on who will host those Games won’t be made until 2023.”

Sport SA president and former sports minister Michael Wright said a Games bid needed to “be put back on the noticeboard”.

Mr Wright wrote to members of parliament in February calling for the Riverbank precinct to include a new multi-million sports hub.

“It’s the right time to get it back on the agenda — there are great opportunities to open up discussions for funding,” Mr Wright said.

“It will benefit all of South Australia.”

Adelaide Lord Mayor Martin Haese backed calls for the Games, saying it would lead to significant investment in the city and boost tourism.

“We have already seen many positive social, cultural and economic benefits as a result of the redevelopment of the Adelaide Oval, and upgrades of other sport and recreation facilities in the city could make a big difference to our community,” Mr Haese said.

Opposition sports spokesman Tim Whetstone has also backed calls for a Games bid.

“The opportunity for South Australia to host the Commonwealth Games must be seriously considered,” Mr Whetstone said.

“Hosting the Commonwealth Games would have short, medium and long-term benefits for the SA economy and any opportunity to host the Games must be closely looked at.”

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[TorchbearerSydney]

Adelaide missed its chance for 2016- it would have been selected as the AUS bid ahead of the Gold Coast if it didn't pull out of the running, and as events turned out hosted in 2016.

Adelaide would be great little Games (it has built/ rebuilt the stadium and pool now).....but it will have to wait.

[Alexjc]

Adelaide missed its chance for 2016- it would have been selected as the AUS bid ahead of the Gold Coast if it didn't pull out of the running, and as events turned out hosted in 2016.

Adelaide would be great little Games (it has built/ rebuilt the stadium and pool now).....but it will have to wait.

2016 huh?

[Sir Rols]

Wasn't sure where to put this - the 15 year time span mentioned in the article would make this more of a 2034 chance. But a thread for 2034 seems a tad premature at this stage. Anyway...
 

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New Auckland stadium could host Commonwealth Games

Auckland’s new Mayor has wasted no time in re-igniting the city centre stadium debate.

Phil Goff told 1 News that he wants to preserve the railway land near Vector Arena for a new stadium development that could happen in the next 15 years.

Mr Goff’s been told that Eden Park will need significant remedial work in the next 15 years, and he thinks the money would be better spent on a new stadium closer to transport links.

The plan would be to host rugby, league and football in the stadium, with the possibility of hosting a Commonwealth Games in the future.

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The waterfront site currently has a building height limit of 18 metres, but Mr Goff ensured a 40 metre high stadium would not block any views from the Auckland Domain and War Memorial Museum. 

He has estimated the project will cost $300 million and will be funded by a mixture of public and private investors.

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[JMarkSnow2012]

8 hours ago, Sir Rols said:

... The waterfront site currently has a building height limit of 18 metres, but Mr Goff ensured a 40 metre high stadium would not block any views from the Auckland Domain and War Memorial Museum. 

"Ensured"? I very very much doubt that, or we'd be examining 3-D renders right now.

"Assured" maybe -used in its political sense.

[Apple]

It's been a dream of mine since I've joined this forum and it's finally taking shape....Hamilton is preparing for the 2030 Commonwealth Games bid! Come back home. 

[Apple]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/commonwealth-games-2030-1.4269193

 

After hosting 1st games in 1930, should Hamilton bid for the 2030 Commonwealth Games?
'I'm certainly keen': Mayor Fred Eisenberger

 

The people who think far ahead about these things are beginning to talk about Hamilton as a host city for the Commonwealth Games in 2030.

 

It would mark 100 years since Hamilton hosted the first version of the games, then known as the British Empire Games.

The Civic Stadium, later Ivor Wynne, where Tim Hortons Field now stands, was the original athletes village, pool and track and field stadium.

 

"It's somewhat premature to use the word 'bid'," said Greg Maychak, who works for the city's public works department and also serves as a member-at-large at Commonwealth Games Canada.

 

But, he said, city staff are working on a preliminary report to present to city council members next week, awaiting councillors' direction to explore or investigate what that would look like.

"There's some logic to hosting the 100th anniversary of those games," said Mayor Fred Eisenberger. "I'm certainly keen on doing that."

 

 

'The 2030 Games would surely go to Hamilton'

Eisenberger emphasized that his colleagues on city council would have to sign off on the idea, but said "there are certainly a lot of good emotional reasons" to host it here, where a Hamiltonian invented it.

"I would think the organizing committees would be pretty keen on having it come back to Hamilton where it started."

 

 

Elsewhere, at least some eyes are on Hamilton for Canada's chosen city for a 2030 bid. On the heels of a failed 2022 bid, the Commonwealth Games Federation encouraged Victoria bid organizers to look at 2030.

 

But David Black, the bid organizer in Victoria, told the Victoria Times-Colonist he doubted they'd stand a chance for federal support against Hamilton.

 

There's sentimental value attached to the chance for a special centennial celebration in the place the games began.

 

"Victoria 2030 would be great. But the 2030 Games would surely go to Hamilton," he told the newspaper.

 

Hamilton would have some wrinkles to iron out.

The city got a new stadium when it hosted the soccer events in 2015 for the Toronto Pan Am/Parapan Am Games. 

But it doesn't currently have a world-class pool and diving facility. The city's stadium, though ready by the time Pan Am and Parapan Am Games kicked off, was a debacle to construct and finish and is still giving the city headaches.

And it would need provincial and federal buy-in, as international games come with hefty price tags.

 

But, the Queen's Baton Relay – equivalent to the torch relay for those other international games – came here last month on its way to Gold Coast in Australia next spring.

 

And the Hamilton baton stop did get some wheels turning.

 

"As the founding city, it'd be a wonderful opportunity to reflect on the Commonwealth Games, on our city and how we changed, how we're growing," Maychak said.

 

The bid process usually begins about eight years ahead of time. But a headstart could leave enough time to develop a special centennial celebration. 

Games founded in Hamilton

The games were dreamed up by M.M. "Bobby" Robinson, the sports editor of the Hamilton Spectator. 

He came back from the 1928 Olympics in Amsterdam with the idea to launch a games for British Commonwealth competitors.

The city pitched in $30,000 (about $425,000 in 2017 dollars) to cover travel costs for athletes coming in from 11 countries to compete in athletics, boxing, lawn bowling, rowing, diving, wrestling and swimming.

The Commonwealth Games nearly returned to Hamilton for 2010, but the inaugural host city lost out in the bidding process to New Delhi, India.

And then Hamilton lost again its bid for the 2014 games, which were awarded to Halifax. When Halifax later withdrew its bid, the games went to Glasgow, Scotland.

[Apple]

City Council to vote on launching a bid for the 2030 Commonwealth Games.

[intoronto]

Hopefully not. There are better Canadian cities to choose from. 

[yoshi]

But to be fair, there is only one founding city. And given the state the CGF is in, surely any bid from Canada would have its hand bitten off

[Alexjc]

New Zealand is looking at a potential 2030 hosting as well. Christchurch as head city is going to be a focal point.

[Nacre]

That they conveniently ignore the fact that the new stadium built in Hamilton does not have an athletics track and cannot be retrofitted with one tells you everything you need to know about this bid.

[Apple]

MacPherson said Hamilton could make room for a 400-metre track at Tim Hortons Field by using scaffolding to raise a temporary running surface overtop the first 15 to 20 rows of seats. But he cautioned the required work could put the football stadium out of commission for three and six months leading up to the games.

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/7530596-city-to-mull-commonwealth-games-bid/

[Nacre]

2 hours ago, Apple said:

MacPherson said Hamilton could make room for a 400-metre track at Tim Hortons Field by using scaffolding to raise a temporary running surface overtop the first 15 to 20 rows of seats. But he cautioned the required work could put the football stadium out of commission for three and six months leading up to the games.

Virtually the entire lower bowl would have to be covered for the track platform, and they would have to demolish or remove the structures at the ends of the stadium, and then somehow add another 25,000 temporary seating. That would be more expensive than simply using temporary bleachers at a university track like Toronto and Victoria did.

The platform concept worked in Glasgow because Hampden Park is built in an oval shape. It will not work well with a rectangular stadium.

[Apple]

There's always the option of using the McMaster's track and field as well. The point is, it's not a major challenge.

[Apple]

Looks like Hamilton will have to wait to revisit a possible bid in 2019 or so, just not now. 

 

Hamilton council closes door on Commonwealth Games bid

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/7554094-hamilton-council-closes-door-on-commonwealth-games-bid/

 

City council has refused to even study the possibility of hosting the 100th anniversary Commonwealth Games in 2030 despite the encouragement of Canadian games officials.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger made a last-ditch plea for council support Wednesday to seek information about possible costs and benefits of hosting the centennial games, which were born in Hamilton as the British Empire Games in 1930.

"Make an informed decision," he said, later adding council may ultimately decide its contribution to a $1-billion games is "too rich for our blood." But to do so without the facts, he said, would be "truly unfortunate."

A growing number of councillors decided Wednesday, however, that they already knew enough to say no.

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City staff said Wednesday there is a theoretical possibility that a new, post-election council could revisit a bid study in 2019 or later.

Eisenberger expressed hope that the debate "would rise again."

[intoronto]

Toronto is preparing a bid for 2030 in its preliminary stages but knowing this city's council it will be shot down 

[intoronto]

Some interesting developments: http://montrealgazette.com/sports/olympics/just-give-us-the-commonwealth-games-in-2030-canada-plans-to-tell-counterpart-countries/wcm/6b8cdb05-e2c0-4c22-9089-05ce4c45f07f

[Nacre]

So the plan is to get the games and then afterwards find a city to host them? That would be like a woman planning a wedding with the venue, dress, flowers, etc . . . and then trying to find a groom.

EDIT: Self censoring - I should not have used gendered words. I ought to have said "that would be like someone planning a wedding with the venue, dress, flowers, etc . . . and then trying to find someone to marry."

Edited March 29, 2018 by Nacre

[yoshi]

Nice to see Canada interested again, but that really isn't how bidding works Still leaves a 2026-sized hole in the schedule though. If anything, you'd think the CGF would want Canada to host then, it is well gone their turn. 

[intoronto]

3 hours ago, yoshi said:

Nice to see Canada interested again, but that really isn't how bidding works Still leaves a 2026-sized hole in the schedule though. If anything, you'd think the CGF would want Canada to host then, it is well gone their turn. 

World Cup will conflict with it. 2 of the 3 interested parties for 2022 are going to host matches for the World Cup, if the bid is successful. 

Would be interesting if Calgary loses 2026 and cities line up for 2030. Then what?

[thatsnotmypuppy]

I'm legit expecting Australia will step in for 2026.  There will be a groundswell of CG support while the Gold Coast clusterfuck is on and we'll see Perth or Adelaide put their hand up.  Realistically we'll get them unless Kuala Lumpur puts in a bid.  The UK is out, NZ refuses to spend big bucks on anything bar rugby events, Singapore doesn't seem interested at all.  South Africa is a big no - and I doubt Nigeria/Sri Lanka/India will put in another bid anytime soon.

[thatsnotmypuppy]

Unless London bids. Then back to back we go.

 

[yoshi]

Obviously I know the reasons why but I've always thought it's a shame that Ireland aren't in the Commonwealth - Dublin would be a perfect host city for the Games. And I do not understand Singapore at all, surely they wouldn't need to build anything. It really is as though they've forgotten that they are in the Commonwealth. And where do you think Australia would go for for 26 - Perth with the new stadium? (And why do you describe the upcoming games as a clusterfuck - have preparations not been going well?

[intoronto]

7 hours ago, thatsnotmypuppy said:

I'm legit expecting Australia will step in for 2026.  There will be a groundswell of CG support while the Gold Coast clusterfuck is on and we'll see Perth or Adelaide put their hand up.  Realistically we'll get them unless Kuala Lumpur puts in a bid.  The UK is out, NZ refuses to spend big bucks on anything bar rugby events, Singapore doesn't seem interested at all.  South Africa is a big no - and I doubt Nigeria/Sri Lanka/India will put in another bid anytime soon.

Out of curiosity, why do you think Gc2018 is a clusterfuck?