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2015 Pan Am facilities ripe for centenary Games in city

January 18, 2010

John Kernaghan

The Hamilton Spectator

http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/706979

It's a long way off, but a centenary Commonwealth Games for Hamilton in 2030 was on sports organizers' minds over the weekend.

Commonwealth Games Canada (CGC) sees an opportunity to celebrate the birth of the Games, known as the British Empire Games when Hamilton spawned them in 1930, by using the 2015 Pan Am Games as a platform.

"We should be poised to take advantage of the legacy of the Pan Am Games," said CGC president Dr. Andrew Pipe following the sports body's annual general meeting.

"It would mean double the value of the investment you make for 2015."

He cited the $170 million in sports and recreation infrastructure slated for Hamilton and Burlington.

Those facilities, which include a major stadium, pool at McMaster University, world championship-calibre cycling track and a $23-million soccer centre, could still be used 15 years later.

Pipe said the CGC is first looking at 2022 for a Games in Canada, but the special circumstances of the 100th anniversary for Hamilton could mean hosting two sets of Games eight years apart.

"It's hypothetical if you could run both in the same region, but that could be explored strategically."

After Hamilton's original version, three other Commonwealth Games in Canada were staged in Alberta and British Columbia.

Michael Fennell, president of the Commonwealth Games Federation, said Canada should be hosting more Games and noted the 2030 version is a special occasion.

"Canada has proven it has the expertise and resources to stage major Games, whether it is the Olympics or Commonwealth Games. It should do more."

He addressed security concerns for the 2010 Games in New Delhi, telling CGC members yesterday his organization has hired a security consultant to advise it on preparations for the events in India next October.

New Delhi defeated Hamilton in the 2003 competition to stage the Games.

"We live in a crazy world," he noted, but added many nations, including Canada, are helping the Indian and New Delhi security apparatus prepare for the 10-day sports showcase.

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Pipe said the CGC is first looking at 2022 for a Games in Canada, but the special circumstances of the 100th anniversary for Hamilton could mean hosting two sets of Games eight years apart.

Interesting. So what happen's though if Toronto gets chosen for 2022. Would it stuff up a Hamilton 2030 plan?

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Toronto will likely focus on an Olympic bid after the 2015 Pan Am Games. Whereas with Hamilton it's already focused on the 2030 Commonwealth Games bid.

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2030........surely it's Abuja's time?

Just kiddin. It seems Canada is quite determined to land major multi-sport events in the future.

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Is it just me or Hamilton is the actual hotspot of Toronto 2015? Most news speak only of Hamilton and the benefits they'll get thanks to the PanAms.

It seems Toronto 2015 will leave more of an organization experience to Toronto than infrastructure legacy.

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Toronto already has all the venues, during the Games they'll be refurbished.

With Hamilton it gets a new stadium, velodrome, Aquatic Centre (not the main Aquatic Centre) and a refurbished Copps Coliseum. Hamilton gets the second largest pot of cash and it's not far off from GTA's pot of cash.

Remember Toronto's 2015 Pan Am funding is nearly doubled Vancouver's 2010 Olympic Games total funding. So this is huge amount of money.

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At the risk of chiming in late on a dead subject, and making an observation that has no foundation in fact (as if that stops anyone posting here) who actually believes the Commonwealth Games will actually still be running in 2030? Catering to a small bunch of loosely aligned countries, the CGs have become more and more a sporting irrelevance since the 1970s. All it would take would be for England, Australia or Canada to say enough and the whole house of cards falls down, as no one will want to go see a multi-sport competition where excellence is defined by bugger all world records and where the Norfolk Islands and the Isle of Man are taken seriously. The Aussies should be more engaged with the Asian Games, the Canucks no doubt are already in on the Pan Am Games bandwagon, the various British entities compete in Europe, and SA, NZ and India generally fill in the gaps not taken by the aforementioned CG powerhouses. The glory days of empire and commonwealth are over, and the CGs should come to a gentle dignified stop post Glasgow

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I thought about this: What if Toronto considered binning for the 2030 Pan American Games instead of Hamilton? Toronto is hosting the 2015 Pan American Games, what if Toronto hosted a Commonwealth Games? By 2030, Ivor Wynne Stadium will have been replaced by a new stadium and be dead for a number of years. By 2015, they'll have enough venues for the CWG's (which may be an economy-sized version of the Summer Olympics and it's just for nations of the Commonwealth).

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It will be Ottawa or Hamilton that will be our next Commonwealth Games host and I think the COC and the CCGC will be smart enough to know to wait until 2030 to get the games. By than it will be almost 40 years since a Canadian host and by than 3 of Africa, Australia, NZ or England will be out of the way.

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I hope it is Toronto 2030. Toronto should have more big events, after pan ams.

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Toronto won't go for 2030 Commonwealth Games since they know the Centennial game should be given to the City that started it, Hamilton.

Hamilton -> 2030 Commonwealth Games with the new Pan American Stadium

Toronto -> 2020 or 2024 Summer Olympic Games

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Is Hamilton considered Toronto suburb?

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Hamilton isn't part of the Greater Toronto Area. Hamilton is part of the Greater Hamilton Area. It's two regions that's next to each other, kinda like a twin city.

Hamilton was incorporated in 1846 and Toronto was incorporated in 1834.

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Toronto's focus is on the Olympic Games. In Canada, the Commonwealth Games get hosted by the smaller cities - Hamilton, Vancouver, Edmonton, Victoria. I doubt even Vancouver would aim for them any more.

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Toronto's focus is on the Olympic Games. In Canada, the Commonwealth Games get hosted by the smaller cities - Hamilton, Vancouver, Edmonton, Victoria. I doubt even Vancouver would aim for them any more.

Hey Kendegra...are the CGs of much interest in Canada? I know there was quite a bit of excitement with past hosts, but considering that Canada also has commitments to the Pan Ams I would assume the CGs come about 3rd or 4th in importance.

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Renovated Ivor Wynne

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http://www.thespec.com/news/article/319951--rebuild-ivor-wynne-young-and-bratina

Now that Ivor Wynne stadium, Commonwealth Games first stadium, will receive a multi-million dollar renovation there's even more probability of a Hamilton 2030 Commonwealth Games bid.

Why 2030? Why not 2022 or 2026? Is there that much antipathy to a future bid, or such a deficit of infrastructure support that there needs to be approx 12 years of waiting before another CG bid? Surely Hamilton could run earlier and have at least a half decent chance of winning the rights.

That's assuming of course the CGs continue past 2018....

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Why 2030? Why not 2022 or 2026? Is there that much antipathy to a future bid, or such a deficit of infrastructure support that there needs to be approx 12 years of waiting before another CG bid? Surely Hamilton could run earlier and have at least a half decent chance of winning the rights.

That's assuming of course the CGs continue past 2018....

The Centennial. Hamilton's long stated it's intention of going for the Centennial.

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The Centennial. Hamilton's long stated it's intention of going for the Centennial.

Ah, the Athens factor hmmmm. I wonder how that'll play out, in terms of the vast difference between the old Empire Games of 1930 versus the Commonwealth Games that is seen by some as a chance to exploit anti-western sentiment amongst certain Commonwealth countries.

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Let the talk of 2030 Commonwealth bid commence!

Was that the future of sports in Hamilton we were watching?

Friday night at the new yard was not just about Friday night, or just about the new yard.

From the Hamilton Tiger-Cat experience last year we already knew that Tim Hortons Field is going to make a difference, and when it temporarily becomes CIBC Hamilton Pan Am Stadium next week, it will make a difference, too.

Friday was a stepping stone — more like a segue, actually — to July's Pan Am Games, but also to a host of other things between now and 2030.

Why pick that far-off date, you might ask? Because that's the centennial of the first Commonwealth Games (nee British Empire Games) which were held in Hamilton on the very site that Friday night's game was played, but in a stadium facing the other direction.

And, yes, there is already talk in some Hamilton quarters that we should be bidding for those Games. Besides the historical symmetry, we have to get a pool and a track somewhere, and there's plenty of time to financially plan.

With the new joint sold out for Canada vs. England Friday night, and the old joint downtown setting North American attendance records last month for synchronized skating, this city has its sports-host groove back.

The rest: http://www.hamiltonnews.com/pan-am-games-story/5652457-was-that-the-future-of-sports-in-hamilton-we-were-watching-/

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Considering where the games are at now in their ability to attract bids if Hamilton are interested in 2030 if I were the CGF I think I'd be getting that signed off ASAP without a bidding process - let other cities concentrate on 2026/34.

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